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Still in doubt
OP - August 21, 2011, 03:32 PM

Hello all,

I am a Pakistani born in Saudi Arabia. I was born in religious family. I practiced Islam well and being born in Saudi I was extra well lol .
When I was 18 I started having doubts but then I took doubts as whisppers from satan. I kept on with the faith. Then went to study in university in Cyprus. Occasionally I practiced there. After studies I came back to Saudi and worked there for 5 years. During these year I tried to get back to faith and it wasnt working.

I think I should say I got lucky and got work in the UK as I wanted to come here and explore more about the secular society. Now year and half passed and I am in doubt more than before. Not really sure what to do as yet but any advices and the stories of becoming a ex muslim will help.

Thanks all.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #1 - August 21, 2011, 03:40 PM

Welcome developer, just read our blogs and introductory section and you will find plenty of stories regarding leaving Islam, here is your welcome
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #2 - August 21, 2011, 03:41 PM

Thanks alot.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #3 - August 21, 2011, 04:02 PM

Hey developer

You'll find plenty of stories right here in the Introductions section. There is also Ex-Muslim Blogs and Bios:

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?board=10.0

Hope you enjoy your stay.

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #4 - August 21, 2011, 04:06 PM

welcome to the forum there is plenty of information here so I'm sure you will find the things that interest you.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #5 - August 21, 2011, 04:09 PM

and developer! And, of course, your
You have every right to be in doubt. Every apostate sterted like that. You shouldn't have come to the West because you are now infected with free thought. Sorry for you, but you will keep these doubts for the rest of your life, or untill you leave Islam as it was taught to you. Have a good time here!

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Reply #6 - August 21, 2011, 04:11 PM

Welcome

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #7 - August 21, 2011, 04:18 PM

Thanks all welcoming me. Some how I knew people will be friendly here.

I am glad I came to west otherwise I would have been never explored this life. I met great people here which is nice. I am still learning and exploring. One day I will be in peace for sure.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #8 - August 21, 2011, 04:21 PM

Take your time, don't hurry, and be vigilous

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #9 - August 21, 2011, 04:23 PM

Thanks alot.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #10 - August 21, 2011, 04:25 PM

I am not in hurry at all.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #11 - August 21, 2011, 04:28 PM

Good!

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #12 - August 21, 2011, 04:37 PM

Just would love to know hows life after leaving the religion. Hows life as an ex muslim?
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #13 - August 21, 2011, 04:41 PM

For me life is still the same without any religious duties, I still go work, I have a family, and I try not to offend anyone that is religious in my family.
They accept that I am not religious but the cling on to the hope that I will return to praying and fasting etc
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #14 - August 21, 2011, 04:41 PM

It all depends on your circumstance.
If you live Saudi Arabia, then I imagine it's difficult and dangerous. If you live in the West (and are financially and otherwise independent), it's just dandy.

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #15 - August 21, 2011, 04:57 PM

well congrats on getting out of saudi

and welcome to cemb
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #16 - August 21, 2011, 05:47 PM

Thanks.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #17 - August 21, 2011, 06:12 PM

Hey dude,

I personally began to have doubts whilst earnestly trying to learn more about Islam. The doubts increased and led to my eventual apostasy after watching many youtube vids critical of Islam/religion, and reading apostasy testimonials on wikiIslam.

But also in hindsight many of my beliefs in the validity of Islam was undermined indirectly through my persistent interest in psychology, spirituality and holistic healing.

Here are the testimonials I mentioned...

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/People_Who_Left_Islam#All_Testimonies

The youtube channels I personally recommend - in no particular order - are;

Cembadmins

Theramintrees (check out the video; religion - the bad parent)

Therationalizer (The scientific miracles of the Quran debunked)

Evid3nc3 (incredible presentation of his deconversion for christanity, that helped me greatly to understand my own deconversion process)

Phillhellenes (check out the vids; science saved my soul, and why didn't anybody tell me)

Take your time man.

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #18 - August 21, 2011, 06:16 PM

thanks dude for help
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #19 - August 21, 2011, 06:33 PM

You're welcome man.

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #20 - August 21, 2011, 06:34 PM

Hey developer and welcome I'm a Saudi here! Hope you didn't get beaten by the racists there, especially the police! Life as an ex-Muslim depends on what you do, where you it, and what kind of people are around you. Some of us have to pretend to be a Muslim because it's dangerous, others don't want to break their families' and friend's hearts, so life can be uncomfortable when pretending to be a Muslim. Some of us came out to our families and friends and did absolutely fine, others got harsh results, some harsher than others.

Hope you enjoy this site. And since you say you're a doubting Muslim, can you tell us what makes you still cling on to it? What parts of Islam still makes you believe it is the true religion of God?

I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
Can't it be, can't it be mine

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Reply #21 - August 21, 2011, 06:42 PM

Welcome to CEMB, developer

Read the testimonies posted above. Hassan's testimony is pretty good too. Join us on various discussions and you'll soon know for yourself

PS: Not regarding Islam, but I recommend that you watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #22 - August 21, 2011, 06:52 PM

thanks all.

Moealharbi are you really a Saudi? Wow i never thought I would meet a ex muslim Saudi.
I am still in doubt because I guess I am so used to it and many people believe in it so there might bee something in it.

What made you being ex muslim I am curious now lol.

Thanks forr video crazyislam
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #23 - August 21, 2011, 07:30 PM

Quote from: developer on August 21, 2011, 06:52 PM
Moealharbi are you really a Saudi? Wow i never thought I would meet a ex muslim Saudi.

I also wondered if I was the only apostate from Saudi

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=9096.msg229396#msg229396
there is another Saudi ex-Muslim here who, but she's Shia so she doesn't count because Shiites are already kuffar

Quote from: developer on August 21, 2011, 06:52 PM
I am still in doubt because I guess I am so used to it and many people believe in it so there might bee something in it.

I can understand. Its hard to erase something etched deeply in stone over the years, but it's still possible nonetheless

Quote from: developer on August 21, 2011, 06:52 PM
What made you being ex muslim I am curious now lol.

Here is my story

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=9113.msg229989#msg229989

I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
Can't it be, can't it be mine

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #24 - August 21, 2011, 07:39 PM

ummm hello?

im saudi too lol

but i used to be shia sooooo.....
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Reply #25 - August 21, 2011, 07:59 PM

Welcome to out humble abode.

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #26 - August 21, 2011, 08:21 PM

Doubt is good.
Doubt works.
Doubt leads to better and better questions and answers...

Little Fly, Thy summer's play
My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

I too dance and drink, and sing,
Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

Therefore I am a happy fly,
If I live or if I die.
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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #27 - August 21, 2011, 09:14 PM

A warm welcome, developer! Enjoy the forum, and the freedom
to express yourself. I liken leaving islam kind of like going thru
the five stages of grief when someone dies. I was both liberating
for me, and also very sad that I no longer could hang onto a god
that never existed

Just take one day at a time, and know we will be here for you no
matter what you choose or choose not to do.

And here's a lil welcome jinn for ya!

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #28 - August 21, 2011, 09:37 PM

welcome

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Re: Still in doubt
Reply #29 - August 21, 2011, 09:46 PM

Quote from: developer on August 21, 2011, 03:32 PM
Hello all,

I am a Pakistani born in Saudi Arabia. I was born in religious family. I practiced Islam well and being born in Saudi I was extra well lol .
When I was 18 I started having doubts but then I took doubts as whisppers from satan. I kept on with the faith. Then went to study in university in Cyprus. Occasionally I practiced there. After studies I came back to Saudi and worked there for 5 years. During these year I tried to get back to faith and it wasnt working.

I think I should say I got lucky and got work in the UK as I wanted to come here and explore more about the secular society. Now year and half passed and I am in doubt more than before. Not really sure what to do as yet but any advices and the stories of becoming a ex muslim will help.

Thanks all.

Welcome

My story is in my sig.
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