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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #150 - March 15, 2009, 01:51 AM
    Born as an Atheist.

    Never changed.
    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #151 - March 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
    Welcome to the forum Shahzad.  Afro


    Quote from: IsLame on March 14, 2009, 12:04 AM
    Aslaam Wa-Alaikum Shahzad

    Does that make sense?  Huh?  It's Asalaamu alaikum.  cool2
    .
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #152 - March 16, 2009, 09:52 AM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on March 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
    Welcome to the forum Shahzad.  Afro


    Quote from: IsLame on March 14, 2009, 12:04 AM
    Aslaam Wa-Alaikum Shahzad

    Does that make sense?  Huh?  It's Asalaamu alaikum.  cool2


    Not sure, spelt it the way I pronounce it - unless I am pronouncing it wrong?
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #153 - March 16, 2009, 01:02 PM
    No big difference....it's actually: Assalamu Alaikum.
    "I'm Agnostic about God."

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    "If there is a God, it has to be a man; no woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #154 - March 16, 2009, 01:06 PM
    when pronounced is it 'wa' or 'oo' in the middle?
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #155 - March 16, 2009, 01:08 PM
    It's 'oo' in the middle. Never heard it pronounced with 'wa' before.
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #156 - March 16, 2009, 01:12 PM
    What Peruvian said..↑↑
    "I'm Agnostic about God."

    Richard Dawkins
    ==
    "If there is a God, it has to be a man; no woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
     George Carlin == "...The so-called moderates are actually the public relations arm of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran."  Maryam Namazie
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #157 - March 16, 2009, 01:28 PM
    Thanks Shahid/Wiss/Peru - thanks for the correction. 

    P.S Wiss judging by the direction of your arrows, you have selected a different 'view' to me as they point in the wrong direction on my view. 
    I found it easier by showing latest posts first, if you want to try it out go to 'profile' > 'look layout' > tick 'latest posts first', saves having to click on the last page each time..
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #158 - March 16, 2009, 01:32 PM
    Sorry for the confusion IsLame,

    I prefer the layout this way, but I might use these arrows less then.. grin12
    "I'm Agnostic about God."

    Richard Dawkins
    ==
    "If there is a God, it has to be a man; no woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
     George Carlin == "...The so-called moderates are actually the public relations arm of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran."  Maryam Namazie
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #159 - March 16, 2009, 01:37 PM
    Quote from: Emerald on March 16, 2009, 01:32 PM
    Sorry for the confusion IsLame, I prefer the layout this way, but I might use these arrows less then.. grin12

    Its fine, I know what people mean then they do it anyway..
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #160 - March 16, 2009, 05:41 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 01:06 PM
    when pronounced is it 'wa' or 'oo' in the middle?


    I've heard quite a few British Muslims (of Pakistani/Indian origin) say Assalamuwalaykum - it's wrong but seems to have become a habit for some.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #161 - March 16, 2009, 05:44 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 16, 2009, 05:41 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 01:06 PM
    when pronounced is it 'wa' or 'oo' in the middle?


    I've heard a lot of British Muslims (of Pakistani/Indian origin) say Assalamuwalaykum - it's wrong but seems to have become a habit for many.

    Is is a bastardisation of the reply when someone greets you i.e. wa'alaikum assalaam?
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #162 - March 16, 2009, 05:47 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 05:44 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 16, 2009, 05:41 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 01:06 PM
    when pronounced is it 'wa' or 'oo' in the middle?


    I've heard a lot of British Muslims (of Pakistani/Indian origin) say Assalamuwalaykum - it's wrong but seems to have become a habit for many.

    Is is a bastardisation of the reply when someone greets you i.e. wa'alaikum assalaam?


    Probably.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #163 - March 16, 2009, 06:28 PM
    When George Galloway begins his speeches, he usually starts the speech with "Wasalaam" or "Wasalaamu alaikum".

    Surely that's wrong?  You're supposed to say "Wasalaam" when you end your speech, right?

    You can see examples over HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.

    *waits for Hassans to give answer*  grin12
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #164 - March 16, 2009, 06:44 PM
    me thinkance splittance of threadance
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #165 - March 16, 2009, 08:24 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on March 16, 2009, 06:28 PM
    When George Galloway begins his speeches, he usually starts the speech with "Wasalaam" or "Wasalaamu alaikum".

    Surely that's wrong?  You're supposed to say "Wasalaam" when you end your speech, right?

    You can see examples over HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.

    *waits for Hassans to give answer*  grin12


    Galloway is such a joke. Yes, it's wrong.

    Though it seems British Muslims have developed their own Anglicized Muslim-Speak or as IsLame put it a sort of bastardization of common Muslim words and phrases.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #166 - March 16, 2009, 11:24 PM
    Quote from: Islame
    Is is a bastardisation of the reply when someone greets you i.e. wa'alaikum assalaam?


    Quote from: Shahid Raza
    When George Galloway begins his speeches, he usually starts the speech with "Wasalaam" or "Wasalaamu alaikum".

    Surely that's wrong?  You're supposed to say "Wasalaam" when you end your speech, right?

    Yeah, the wa is a seperate word to Salaam or 3lay ( علي ). Wa means "and" so it should be used in replies or when you're done speaking.
    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #167 - March 16, 2009, 11:40 PM
    what does asslaamu alaikum literally mean?
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #168 - March 16, 2009, 11:58 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 11:40 PM
    what does asslaamu alaikum literally mean?

    Peace be upon you (plural)

    "Peace" = as-Salam, "upon" = 3lay and "you" = -kum, the masculine plural suffix for direct speech.

    If you wanted to adress a group of females it would be As-Salam Alaikunna.
    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #169 - March 17, 2009, 12:02 AM
    To date me & many of my south-eastern brethren have all been saying "peace and upon you"  Embarrassed
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #170 - March 17, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Quote from: Aksel Ankersen on March 16, 2009, 11:58 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 16, 2009, 11:40 PM
    what does asslaamu alaikum literally mean?

    Peace be upon you (plural)

    "Peace" = as-Salam, "upon" = 3lay and "you" = -kum, the masculine plural suffix for direct speech.

    If you wanted to adress a group of females it would be As-Salam Alaikunna.


    And when you are addressing a mixed gathering you still use the masculine plural.

    Even in grammar men take precedence over women lol  grin12
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #171 - March 17, 2009, 02:10 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2009, 07:50 AM
    And when you are addressing a mixed gathering you still use the masculine plural.

    Even in grammar men take precedence over women lol  grin12

    Aye. Although that's a feature of Arabic rather than Islam, I suppose a Christian Arab would address a mixed gathering in just the same way.
    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #172 - March 17, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2009, 07:50 AM
    And when you are addressing a mixed gathering you still use the masculine plural.

    This is also the case in the French language.
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #173 - March 18, 2009, 12:40 AM
    Quote from: Zaephon on March 17, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2009, 07:50 AM
    And when you are addressing a mixed gathering you still use the masculine plural.

    This is also the case in the French language.


    I believe the concept is the same in pretty much all languages... In english, the word 'Man' is used when speaking of humanity in general. ie; mankind, man's best friend.. etc.



    Quod est inferius est sicut quod est superius,
    et quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius,
    ad perpetranda miracula rei unius.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #174 - March 18, 2009, 08:07 AM
    Quote from: belladonnasix on March 18, 2009, 12:40 AM
    I believe the concept is the same in pretty much all languages... In english, the word 'Man' is used when speaking of humanity in general. ie; mankind, man's best friend.. etc.


    Turkish has no grammatical gender thankfully.  Smiley

    Russian has no feminine/masculine distinction in plural, either. It is treated as another "gender."
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #175 - March 18, 2009, 09:27 AM
    Quote from: belladonnasix on March 14, 2009, 04:50 AM
    Quote from: Submissive Bob on March 04, 2009, 09:11 PM
    Quote from: Baal on March 04, 2009, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 04, 2009, 04:23 PM
    Quote from: Baal on March 04, 2009, 08:00 AM

    One time, just one time I went with some female friends to a gay bar, just for this one time, you should see the labels i had to go through. damn the media.



    Do you live in Egypt?

    toronto


    Go Leafs!

    I'm from Mississauga.
    Ever hear of this guy?

    Naeem Muhammad Khan

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=469452

    I discuss/debate/scrap with him on the Pakistan debates group on facebook.

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    I grew up in Egypt, so i am partial to soccer but I will do hokey every now and then lol
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  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #176 - March 18, 2009, 11:10 AM
    There you have it
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #177 - March 18, 2009, 11:25 AM
    An ex-sunni, currently, Atheist Secularist Humanist. From Singapore bebe! grin12
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #178 - March 18, 2009, 03:40 PM
    Quote from: Baal on March 18, 2009, 09:27 AM
    Quote from: belladonnasix on March 14, 2009, 04:50 AM
    Quote from: Submissive Bob on March 04, 2009, 09:11 PM
    Quote from: Baal on March 04, 2009, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 04, 2009, 04:23 PM
    Quote from: Baal on March 04, 2009, 08:00 AM

    One time, just one time I went with some female friends to a gay bar, just for this one time, you should see the labels i had to go through. damn the media.



    Do you live in Egypt?

    toronto


    Go Leafs!

    I'm from Mississauga.
    Ever hear of this guy?

    Naeem Muhammad Khan

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=469452

    I discuss/debate/scrap with him on the Pakistan debates group on facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/board.php?uid=30452993724

    BAfroB



    Moi aussi Smiley But I grew up in Montreal, so I'm partial to Habs

    I grew up in Egypt, so i am partial to soccer but I will do hokey every now and then lol


    Oh I agree in terms of sports, soccer(true football) is way better than hockey.. but I was speaking in terms of NHL... Habs > Leafs  grin12


    Quod est inferius est sicut quod est superius,
    et quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius,
    ad perpetranda miracula rei unius.
  • Re: Are you an ex muslim?
     Reply #179 - March 18, 2009, 04:23 PM
    Quote from: belladonnasix on March 18, 2009, 12:40 AM
    Quote from: Zaephon on March 17, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 17, 2009, 07:50 AM
    And when you are addressing a mixed gathering you still use the masculine plural.

    This is also the case in the French language.


    I believe the concept is the same in pretty much all languages... In english, the word 'Man' is used when speaking of humanity in general. ie; mankind, man's best friend.. etc.



    huMANity.
    "Poor human nature, what horrible crimes have been committed in thy name!"
    - Emma Goldman
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