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OP - October 26, 2011, 06:43 PM

سُورَةُ النِّسْوَانِ Sura The Women

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سُورَةُ النِّسْوَانِ

بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَانِ الرَّحِيمِ
إِذَا الْمَرْأَةُ انْفَجَرَتْ
وَمِنْ أَغْلَالِهَا تَخَلَّصَتْ
ثُمَّ اقْتَحَمَتْ دُرُوبَ الْحَيَاةِ وظَفِرَتْ
لَقَدْ أَفْلَحَتِ الْأُمَّةُ وَعَزَّتْ
يَاايَتُهَا النِّسْوَانُ مَا غَرَّكُنَّ بِدِينِ الْخُرَفَاتِ
هَلْ تَرْضِينَ بِلَقَبِ النَّاقِصَاتِ
أَوْ بِمِلْكِ الْيَمِينِ قَانِتَاتٌ
فَلَا تَظْلُلْنَ صَامِتَاتٌ
وَلا لِأَرْبَابِ الظُّلْمِ خَاضِعَاتٌ
بَلِ ارْفَعْنَ أَعْنَاقَكُنَّ رَافِعَاتٍ
وَتَعَايَشْنَ مَعَ الرِّجَالِ مُتَسَاوِيَاتٍ

‏When the women bursts out
‏And breaks free from her chains
‏And takes her right and is content
‏And fully pursues every avenue of life, triumphant
‏Then the nation will prosper and be strong
‏Oh Women what has deceived you about the religion of nonsense
‏Are you happy with the title of ‪'The deficient ones'‬?
‏Or with 'right hands possession', content?
‏So do not remain silent
‏Nor submissive to the perpetrators of oppression
‏Raise your necks up high
‏And coexist with men as equals.
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Reply #1 - October 26, 2011, 06:49 PM

At last, it's been a long hard wait.

This sura is like a glass of ice water to those who have been lost in the desert.

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Re: سُورَةُ النِّسْوَانِ Sura The Women
Reply #2 - October 26, 2011, 07:25 PM

I'm sorry, the recitation seems poor to me. Hassan made a few pronunciation mistakes (or at least it looks like it to me judging from the diacritical marks).

Also, what's up with the voice distortion thing? Hassan was never shy or afraid of using his natural voice in his other videos. The voice distortion thing only makes the video sound worse.
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Reply #3 - October 26, 2011, 07:25 PM

Excellent, I have no idea how you have the time to do all this

Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
You are the music while the music lasts.
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Reply #4 - October 26, 2011, 07:33 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 07:25 PM
I'm sorry, the recitation seems poor to me. Hassan made a few pronunciation mistakes (or at least it looks like it to me judging from the diacritical marks).

Also, what's up with the voice distortion thing? Hassan was never shy or afraid of using his natural voice in his other videos. The voice distortion thing only makes the video sound worse.

Which pronunciation mistakes? In the Arabic version or the English? I didn't notice any mistakes in the Arabic version.

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What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
You are the music while the music lasts.
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Re: سُورَةُ النِّسْوَانِ Sura The Women
Reply #5 - October 26, 2011, 07:38 PM

Hassan is trying to out do God! Its no easy task!

Little Fly, Thy summer's play
My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

I too dance and drink, and sing,
Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

Therefore I am a happy fly,
If I live or if I die.
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Reply #6 - October 26, 2011, 07:39 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 07:25 PM
Hassan made a few pronunciation mistakes (or at least it looks like it to me judging from the diacritical marks).

I could not spot any based on diacritical markings. Which bits in particular do you mean?
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Reply #7 - October 26, 2011, 07:41 PM

Quote from: Fara7 on October 26, 2011, 07:33 PM
Which pronunciation mistakes? In the Arabic version or the English? I didn't notice any mistakes in the Arabic version.

well, for example, the part where hassan says 'af la hattil um' is supposed to be 'af la ha til um', and 'til' and 'um' should have the same stress.

also I can sense some sort of struggling or lagging in certain sections of the recitation.
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Reply #8 - October 26, 2011, 07:56 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 07:41 PM
well, for example, the part where hassan says 'af la hattil um' is supposed to be 'af la ha til um', and 'til' and 'um' should have the same stress.

also I can sense some sort of struggling or lagging in certain sections of the recitation.

We at the Holy Qurqan Channel take great pride in the standard of recitation and have noted your comments and I can tell you we have taken them extremely seriously.

After a thorough investigation we have identified the Qari' responsible and have had him shot.

We apologise profusely for any upset this has caused and will endeavour to make sure the Qaris we employ meet the highest standards.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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Reply #9 - October 26, 2011, 08:01 PM

Also, if i remember correctly, when you end each sentence with a 'tha' it should be written as the round-shaped version of the 'tha', and should be pronounced as 'ah' or 'aa' instead of 'at', sort of like 'Qiamah'
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Reply #10 - October 26, 2011, 08:06 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:01 PM
Also, if i remember correctly, when you end each sentence with a 'tha' it should be written as the round-shaped version of the 'tha', and should be pronounced as 'ah' or 'aa' instead of 'at', sort of like 'Qiamah'

Truth_seeker, best you know what you are talking about before talking. The verses don't end with Ta' Marbouta - they end with the feminine ending Ta.
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Reply #11 - October 26, 2011, 08:07 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:01 PM
Also, if i remember correctly, when you end each sentence with a 'tha' it should be written as the round-shaped version of the 'tha', and should be pronounced as 'ah' or 'aa' instead of 'at', sort of like 'Qiamah'

^ Uh, no

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #12 - October 26, 2011, 08:08 PM

I disagree! The word actually means bottom dweller!

Little Fly, Thy summer's play
My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

I too dance and drink, and sing,
Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

Therefore I am a happy fly,
If I live or if I die.
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Re: سُورَةُ النِّسْوَانِ Sura The Women
Reply #13 - October 26, 2011, 08:14 PM

Quote from: Hassan on October 26, 2011, 08:06 PM
Truth_seeker, best you know what you are talking about before talking. The verses don't end with Ta' Marbouta - they end with the feminine ending Ta.

oh wait not, i don't mean tha, i mean taa, the third letter in the arabic alphabet.

it just seems to me that the quran never pronounces 'taa' as 'at' in the ends of a verse. They always use that round-shaped taa like in Akhirah or Qiamah.
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Reply #14 - October 26, 2011, 08:17 PM

We know You're still wrong.

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #15 - October 26, 2011, 08:17 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:14 PM
oh wait not, i don't mean tha, i mean taa, the third letter in the arabic alphabet.

...and so they should be pronounced as I pronounced them.
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Reply #16 - October 26, 2011, 08:20 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:14 PM
it just seems to me that the quran never pronounces 'taa' as 'at' in the ends of a verse. They always use that round-shaped taa like in Akhirah or Qiamah.

Please, mate - best learn Arabic before criticising someone else's.
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Reply #17 - October 26, 2011, 08:22 PM

First that nitwit on the J&T show - and now Truth_Seeker - is it a full moon or something?
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Reply #18 - October 26, 2011, 08:25 PM

BTW, I guess it's a bit late for this, but there are a couple of minor issues. Also, I've just discovered a really powerful tool for Arabic conjugation: http://qutrub.arabeyes.org/

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #19 - October 26, 2011, 08:26 PM

Quote from: harakaat on October 26, 2011, 08:25 PM
BTW, I guess it's a bit late for this, but there are a couple of minor issues. Also, I've just discovered a really powerful tool for Arabic conjugation: http://qutrub.arabeyes.org/

Cool - thanks!
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Reply #20 - October 26, 2011, 08:27 PM

Quote from: Hassan on October 26, 2011, 08:22 PM
First that nitwit on the J&T show - and now Truth_Seeker - is it a full moon or something?

Quote from: Hassan on October 26, 2011, 08:20 PM
Please, mate - best learn Arabic before criticising someone else's.

well this is just how my culture taught how to recite the quran.

if you look at this, http://quran.com/69, all the verses that end with the letter 'taa' is written in that round-shaped version, and is pronounced as either 'ah' or 'aa'.

Look I don't pretend that I actually understand arabic, but your recitation felt a little bit off to me.
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Reply #21 - October 26, 2011, 08:33 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:27 PM
well this is just how my culture taught how to recite the quran.

if you look at this, http://quran.com/69, all the verses that end with the letter 'taa' is written in that round-shaped version, and is pronounced as either 'ah' or 'aa'.

Look I don't pretend that I actually understand arabic, but your recitation felt a little bit off to me.

Yes, I know how Taa' Marboota ة is pronounced at the end.

The point is they are NOT ة they are ت

The sura is a partial parody of Sura al-Inshiqaq - which ends in a similar fashion:

إِذَا السَّمَاء انشَقَّتْ

وَأَذِنَتْ لِرَبِّهَا وَحُقَّتْ

وَإِذَا الأَرْضُ مُدَّتْ

وَأَلْقَتْ مَا فِيهَا وَتَخَلَّتْ

وَأَذِنَتْ لِرَبِّهَا وَحُقَّتْ
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Reply #22 - October 26, 2011, 08:36 PM

Quote from: Hassan on October 26, 2011, 08:33 PM
Yes, I know how Taa' Marboota ة is pronounced at the end.

The point is they are NOT ة they are ت

The sura is a partial parody of Sura al-Inshiqaq - which ends in a similar fashion:

إِذَا السَّمَاء انشَقَّتْ

وَأَذِنَتْ لِرَبِّهَا وَحُقَّتْ

وَإِذَا الأَرْضُ مُدَّتْ

وَأَلْقَتْ مَا فِيهَا وَتَخَلَّتْ

وَأَذِنَتْ لِرَبِّهَا وَحُقَّتْ

well what's the difference between the two taas?
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Reply #23 - October 26, 2011, 08:40 PM

Ya 7abeeb albi, ya truthseeker: http://quran.com/84/1-5

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #24 - October 26, 2011, 08:40 PM

Oh, LOL, Hassan beat me to it.

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #25 - October 26, 2011, 08:43 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:36 PM
well what's the difference between the two taas?

Taa' Marboota ة is usually used for feminine nouns like Raqqasah (dancer) Qiyyamah (Day of judgment)

Taa' Maftooha ت is the usual ending for feminine verbs and plurals like Dakhalat (a woman entered) and Fatayaat (Girls)
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Reply #26 - October 26, 2011, 08:47 PM

Hassan, when you said the Qari' was taken out and shot, were you subtly referring to the same Monty Python letter that I have in mind?

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #27 - October 26, 2011, 08:48 PM

Quote from: Hassan on October 26, 2011, 08:43 PM
Taa' Marboota ة is usually used for feminine nouns like Raqqasah (dancer) Qiyyamah (Day of judgment)

Taa' Maftooha ت is the usual ending for feminine verbs and plurals like Dakhalat (a woman entered) and Fatayaat (Girls)

oh ok thanks for clarifying

btw im glad you had the qari shot.
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Reply #28 - October 26, 2011, 08:50 PM

Quote from: harakaat on October 26, 2011, 08:47 PM
Hassan, when you said the Qari' was taken out and shot, were you subtly referring to the same Monty Python letter that I have in mind?

OMG yes!!

I read that ages ago - I think in Graham Chapman's autobiography - or could have been a Python book (I had them all) - I am seriously well impressed you know it.
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Reply #29 - October 26, 2011, 09:01 PM

Quote from: truth_seeker on October 26, 2011, 08:48 PM
oh ok thanks for clarifying

btw im glad you had the qari shot.

You're welcome.

btw I disguise my voice as I want to be very cautious as many Muslims don't have a sense of humour over this and will get very angry about it. (you should see some of the comments I've had!) - I mean there was a massive fuss when Waleed al Husseini posted some verses on Face Book and he was imprisoned in Palestine and threatened with death threats. He's still in prison.

In my usual vids I always try to be fair, reasonable and very careful not to upset Muslims.

This is a change in style and so want to distance myself personally from it. (Even though u guys know of course.)
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