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 Topic: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia

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  • Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     OP - October 31, 2011, 11:53 PM


    Seems like the world is becoming more and more polarized.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/bet-shemesh-haredi-jews-school

    community activist Rabbi Dov Lipman asked one protester why they were focusing on the way small girls dress,
    he was told "even an eight-year-old draws my eyes".
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #1 - November 01, 2011, 12:20 AM

    But they still have a long way to go before they get anywhere near the savage methods

    Execution of Wizard by Beheading in Saudi Arabia 20.9.2011-21.10.1432
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2IaWPbefZg
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #2 - November 01, 2011, 07:16 AM

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    community activist Rabbi Dov Lipman asked one protester why they were focusing on the way small girls dress,
    he was told "even an eight-year-old draws my eyes".


    Ok, so don't trust the creep around little girls. Why should it be their problem?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #3 - November 01, 2011, 10:23 AM

    Israel has a long way to go before it becomes another Saudi but the increasing religiousness/nationalist ideology in Israel isn't good. Salafi Sheikhs and these sort of Rabbis should be locked up together, weirdos.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #4 - November 01, 2011, 10:30 AM

    +1

    Nothing better to do in life than terrorise little girls.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #5 - November 01, 2011, 11:46 AM

    Salafi Sheikhs and these sort of Rabbis should be locked up together, weirdos.

    Arf.

    If prisons are academies of crime, that would be about a hothouse of perversion.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #6 - November 01, 2011, 01:35 PM

     wacko  here's the executioner's side of the story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmBp23W6nc&feature=player_embedded

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #7 - November 01, 2011, 01:59 PM

    1 of the comments on youtube

    "these fuckers should be NUKED! their so called religion is not compatable with western beliefs or our way of life.

    chopperman10 2 hours ago 3

    "

    idiots

    [13:36] <Fimbles> anything above 7 inches
    [13:37] <Fimbles> is wacko
    [13:37] <Fimbles> see
    [13:37] <Fimbles> you think i'd enjoy anything above 7 inches up my arse?
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #8 - November 01, 2011, 02:01 PM

    Seems like the world is becoming more and more polarized.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/bet-shemesh-haredi-jews-school

    community activist Rabbi Dov Lipman asked one protester why they were focusing on the way small girls dress,
    he was told "even an eight-year-old draws my eyes".



    Does Israel have a sex offenders register?  And if so, is that creep on it?

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #9 - November 01, 2011, 02:11 PM

    wacko  here's the executioner's side of the story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmBp23W6nc&feature=player_embedded

    Phew. That was a grim ten minutes. My chest has siezed up.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #10 - November 01, 2011, 02:55 PM

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    community activist Rabbi Dov Lipman asked one protester why they were focusing on the way small girls dress,
    he was told "even an eight-year-old draws my eyes".


    Right I am going to get slaughtered for this, and yes eight is young - again depends on how fully developed she is - but men are programmed to look at fertile females - it's a tradition of our caveman days.

    Perhaps it is why parents in the UK at least are bothered by the sexualisation of the young - I am not saying cover them in burkhas but sensible clothing.

    Look at this way kids growing up (not necessarily 8 years of age). Girls growing up - hit puberty - body changes shape - if this is in view of general public i.e men, surely girls will pick up on the fact that men are looking at her differently. Must be pretty unnerving.

    I dont think it is the same with boys, a fit fourteen year old boy is not going to be looked at by girls older than fourteen say, but a fit fourteen yaer old will get looks by men of most ages (Looks, not pervy leerings). Though only people to look at a fit fourteen year old boy is probably a older gay man.




    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #11 - November 01, 2011, 03:16 PM

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    I dont think it is the same with boys, a fit fourteen year old boy is not going to be looked at by girls older than fourteen say


    Hmmm.  I can think of more than one case where women in their 30s and 40s have been convicted of having sex with boys as young as 14.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #12 - November 01, 2011, 03:21 PM

    It's not a crime if the woman's hot. *high fives 14 year old playas*

    Yeeeaaa


    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #13 - November 01, 2011, 04:20 PM

    Hmmm.  I can think of more than one case where women in their 30s and 40s have been convicted of having sex with boys as young as 14.


    But they are very very few and far between.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #14 - November 01, 2011, 04:30 PM

    Prosecutions may be few and far between, but that doesn't tell the whole story.  Paedophilia and hebephilia are by no means restricted to the male sex, nor are they the norm in either sex.  If you want to discuss that further, take it back to the evolution thread, this thread is about Jewish fundamentalism in Israel, not sexual selection in humans.


    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #15 - November 01, 2011, 04:42 PM

    I have 3 friends who perv on young boys (wouldn't act on it, although 17 has been the lowest for a 32yr old I know) and I'm always cracking jokes about bags of sweets.

    Women do look at young boys, and young teens, don't think they don't.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #16 - November 01, 2011, 04:42 PM

    I agree it is off-topic Cheetah, so I will only post this last post on here (even though I was trying to explain the fundamentalist rabbi's ectreme view, explaining it mind you, not condoning it).

    The point was not about any 'sex act' between adults and youngsters - it was a question of looking and imo a fourteen year girl, fully blossomed will attract looks from a greater range of men than a fourteen year old boy would do from women.

    Probably stemming from the fact that the 14yr old girl is fertile and a good choice for mating, whereas the 14yr old boy is not going to give the security that females (from a evolutionary point of view) seek.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #17 - November 01, 2011, 04:48 PM

    Rubbish.  You've absolutely no idea how many women are secretly perving on 14 yr old boys, or how many men are doing the same to young girls.  You're also grossly over simplifying human sexuality.

    And you're off topic on two counts - not only is this thread not about human sexuality, its also not about 14 year old girls being looked at by Jewish fundies, but 8 year olds.  IOW, girls too young to be fertile, and so completely irrelevant to your explanation. 

    I still want to know the answer to my question, if anybody knows - is there a sex offenders register in Israel?

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #18 - November 01, 2011, 04:51 PM

    but 8 year olds.  IOW, girls too young to be fertile,


    I know a 7th century arab merchant who would thoroughly disagree Grin

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #19 - November 01, 2011, 04:54 PM

    Yeah, well, get back to me when you find evidence that Aisha ever reproduced.  Till then, pre-adolescent girls do not count as fertile, and there's something wrong with an adult male who's eye is drawn to 8 year olds.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #20 - November 01, 2011, 05:01 PM

    Quote
    You're also grossly over simplifying human sexuality.


    Do you think human sexuality was simpler during the first hundred thousand years since the advent of homo sapiens. time? I think so.

    Perhaps in those days men and women dying younger made it simpler.



    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #21 - November 01, 2011, 05:06 PM

    Perhaps it did but take it to the evolution thread, and stop hijacking this one.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #22 - November 01, 2011, 10:00 PM



    Israel has a long way to go before it becomes another Saudi but the increasing religiousness/nationalist ideology in Israel isn't good. Salafi Sheikhs and these sort of Rabbis should be locked up together, weirdos.


    Yeah it's true, but it is scary how strongly religion is coming back into society. Israel is becoming more religious, Libya is reinforcing Islam, and the western world is becoming more set at protecting itself from immigration and other eastern influence by electing politicians from the far right.
     
    While people like us take a step back and see what is happening around the world, the extremist are getting into the game and it looks like we are nearing a modern dark ages (from my perspective anyways), where instead of lack of knowledge made the people a pound in the game of authorities, people are taking their destructive views and putting it into politics.

  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #23 - November 02, 2011, 06:13 PM

    The Jewish population is small enough to contain extremists somewhat. Also, Israel was initially a European colonial state, consisting mostly of European Jews, whereas Saudi Arabia began in the desert by native tribes.

    Another factor to consider is that along with the Aliyah rate (going to Israel) is the Yeridah rate (leaving Israel). The wealthier, educated and secular population account for most of the Yeridah, whereas the modern Aliyah rate has more and more ideological influence. Think about it, the motivation for moving to Israel in the 1940s and 50s is very different than it is now. There are thousands of former-Israelis living in Berlin, as they qualify under German law to move back (ironic considering they were supposed to be in exile in Germany).

    This is creating a higher proportion of ideological Zionists in Israel, which is why the foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, is basically, well...a Nazi. Huh?

    Also Saudi Arabia is moving, albeit painfully slowly, in the right direction in terms of municipal elections with female candidates, an annual reduction in executions etc. I saw this short video a while ago on YouTube, about atheism in Saudi Arabia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G46GDFMTRgE

    Obviously I'm not saying it's a paradise for atheists, but it's not hell either. Think of the general consensus we usually have on how fundamentalist Islam is theoretically supposed to deal with atheism, and how distant it is from the discussion in this video.

    The range of perceptions of atheism from strict Islamic teaching to liberal democracy:

    Execution < Torture < Prison < Fines | Taboo > Socially Unacceptable > Tolerated

    I would say that video would indicate that Saudi is at the 'Taboo' stage. When considering many parts of America have an attitude not too dissimilar, that's quite an achievement.

    I was actually quite surprised that coexistance organizations even existed in Saudi Arabia. The paper cited said a reporter found 17 atheists in Jeddah, indicating that not only they exist, and not only are they not difficult to find, but they are more confident in talking about than one would imagine.

    I hope in a few decades that Arabia can find a way to be tolerant of everyone, have equality but not necessarily be a replica of a European democracy, but a unique one that offers the same benefits.

    Regarding the growing influence of religion, I think it's more accurate to describe it as a growing influence of everything to do with thought, due to free access to information via the internet. The internet played 90% of a role in my leaving of Islam.

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Israel becoming Saudi Arabia
     Reply #24 - November 04, 2011, 02:57 PM



    That  approaches such as this link below exists should be a relief to us.
    http://www.3waydialogue.com/

    I just got this site from my sister, she's becoming pretty active online about this.

    "Tomorrow is the today you were worried about yesterday" Unknown
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