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  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #30 - November 11, 2011, 07:28 AM

    i don't know what u guys have against FFI ... but i changed the title anyway...  Huh?


    So you are in agreement with Ali Sina that muslims are subhuman?

    Or that the best way to deal with Islam is to send a nuke to mecca?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #31 - November 11, 2011, 07:30 AM

    Or that the best way to deal with Islam is to send a nuke to mecca?


    Glass parking lot. Now.  cool2

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #32 - November 11, 2011, 08:46 AM

    No way!!.. I don't know anything about Ali Sina... I just did a google search and came across a link from faithfreedom exposing muhammad's young marriage to aisha and refusal to marry the daughter of hamza.. but hey i don't accept information before it has been verified... he clearly cited his source Bukhari .. why would i ever condone mass genocide..


    LOL my entire family is muslim


    Muslims aren't subhuman.. maybe their prophet was .. he certainlly wasn''t a moral person. ie). taking jewish girls as concubines after slaughtering all their male comrades  .. but most muslims I know are

    kind and don't even know the whole truth to the character of their beloved mustafa...

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #33 - November 11, 2011, 09:27 AM

    Well that answers why we would have beef with FFI, because Sina does believe muslims are sub human, and that we aren't proper ex muslims because we still won't think the nasty way he does.

    Good to hear you don't agree with that. 

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #34 - November 11, 2011, 10:00 AM

    So you are in agreement with Ali Sina that muslims are subhuman?


    On that Sub-Human thing...
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       well where as Ali Sina  says
    Quote
    The gentleman with whom I was debating was infuriated. He called me “theo-fascist” and wrote:
    Quote
    'His [Ali Sina’s] subhuman remark was the last, but a venomous drop that filled his cup of hatred and bigotry. He is not a person to reason with, since his mind is filled with toxic hate and his stomach is thirsty for fresh blood….”  

    All this vituperation because I quoted the verses of the Quran switching the places of "Muslims" and "non-Muslims"! Muslims see nothing wrong in the Quran but they do not like reciprocation. Clearly Islam is not in conformity with the Golden Rule.  

    And in a debate between Yamin Zakaria vs. Ali Sina.,   Ali Sina Says
    Quote
    As for calling someone “subhuman”  I have made it clear that I do not consider those who behead people or target civilians and engage in senseless acts of terror, humans. There are many verses of the Quran that encourage the Muslims to engage in such savageries and inhumane acts. Those who follow such teachings are not humans

    and we should stop this stupid game of political correctness and call them so. They are savages. They are less than subhumans. They are monsters. Our humanity is determined by our humanness and that is in the strength of our soul, in our concern for our fellow beings, in our care and love for mankind and not by our appearance. Can Hitler be called human? How about his supporters who perpetrated those hideous crimes?  I do not know your answer to this question, but mine is, NO! 

    A person cannot be called a human if he or she has no humanity. By the same token, neither Muhammad can be called a human nor those who live by his mandates, kill, loot, rape, behead and butcher innocent people targeting the most vulnerable and defenseless.


    That is what Ali says on that Sub-Human comment....
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    Or that the best way to deal with Islam is to send a nuke to mecca?

    Hmm  I have to find that nuke thing., i did remember that hot discussion between Ali and that 19e's.org Chief Edip Yuksel.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #35 - November 11, 2011, 10:09 AM

    No way!!.. I don't know anything about Ali Sina... I just did a google search and came across a link from faithfreedom exposing muhammad's young marriage to aisha and refusal to marry the daughter of hamza.. but hey i don't accept information before it has been verified... he clearly cited his source Bukhari .. why would i ever condone mass genocide..

    Where did they get that from ?? is it in Quran??  or is it in  hadith Bukhari bullshit??  How do we know that hadith is truth nothing but truth Bowser??
     
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    Muslims aren't subhuman.. maybe their prophet was .. he certainlly wasn''t a moral person. ie). taking jewish girls as concubines after slaughtering all their male comrades

     No he was not.. Well that moral thing is very relative., yesterday's Moral may not be Moral to day...

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    .. but most muslims I know are   kind and don't even know the whole truth to the character of their beloved mustafa...

    That I have to agree with you Bowser., True they  don't know the truth about Prophet of Islam. May be you and me also don't know the real truth about Muhammad and The Prophet of Islam..    who knows Allah knows the best....

    May be they are two different guys put together in Islamic stories..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #36 - November 11, 2011, 10:22 AM

    i've done my research.. i was apart of the sunni sect of islam.. and from the sunni hadith sources authentic ones that are accepted by orthodox sunni muslims .. like bukhari and muslim  i can comfortably say that he did those things.. for instance
     

    Besides Quran 5:33 and 5:38, many hadiths including Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim give proof that cutting of hands was ordered by Mohammed, for example:

            Book 38, Number 4396:
            Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:

            A thief was brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off.



    doing that to people for stealing is subhuman... the idea is if you steal then you don't deserve your hands .. how are you going to eat . how are you going to write.. this is an irreversible thing .. it is the very essence of subhuman
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #37 - November 11, 2011, 10:28 AM

    i've done my research.. i was apart of the sunni sect of islam.. and from the sunni hadith sources authentic ones that are accepted by orthodox sunni muslims .. like bukhari and muslim  i can comfortably say that he did those things..

      May be Sunni  Islam  preaching bums haven't read Quran.. they only follow stupid hadith and hadithism..

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    for instance  Besides Quran 5:33 and 5:38, many hadiths including Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim give proof that cutting of hands was ordered by Mohammed, for example:

            Book 38, Number 4396:
            Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:

            A thief was brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off.

    doing that to people for stealing is subhuman... the idea is if you steal then you don't deserve your hands .. how are you going to eat . how are you going to write.. this is an irreversible thing .. it is the very essence of subhuman

      Nope.. I COMPLETELY REJECT Bukhari bull shit and Sahih  shit and Aisha nonsense..

    As far as verses in Quran is concerned  I am willing to defend and debate  Bowser

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #38 - November 11, 2011, 10:34 AM

    i checked these hadith myself from muslim websites.. ali sina is telling the truth this time .. my friend

    here have a look for yourself

    http://muttaqun.com/marriage.html

    Hadith - Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 813, Narrated Ibn 'Abbas

    The Prophet May Allah's peace and blessings be upon him said about Hamza's daughter, "I am not legally permitted to marry her, as [Islamic] foster relations are treated like blood relations (in marital affairs). She is the daughter of my foster brother."


    here is an muslim argument.. - to be fair.. u can see if ur convinced by their argument..
    http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/faithfreedom-wikiislam/refuting-ali-sina-aisha-child-wife-muhammad-307


    http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=62&translator=1&start=0&number=18

    here another link for the other hadith


    79 hadith found in 'Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)' of Sahih Bukhari.
     18

        Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."  


    Here is another article which mentions quranic verses as well as hadiths .. that talk about torture and islamic punishments for crimes... all are well sourced.. so u can look them up yourself..



  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #39 - November 11, 2011, 10:38 AM

    If you reject Bukhari and muslim .. and hadiths.. then majority of the muslim scholars would deem you an apostate anyways..

    so their really isn't anything left to debate.. because majority of muslims accept them as authentic .. so they believe their prophet was like in bukhari and muslim and other hadith books..


    that's one of the reasons i left islam.. i couldn't accept all the barbaric hadith..

    their is even a verses in the quran that specify worldly punishments for sin.. i don't

    see how you can deny that fact.. when muslims themselves acknowledge it..


  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #40 - November 11, 2011, 10:50 AM

    If you reject Bukhari and muslim .. and hadiths.. then majority of the muslim scholars would deem you an apostate anyways..

    I don't care..

    well those majority of the  Muslim scholars with big beard and pot bellies can call me apostate or any other name., I  call them  BEARDED BRAINLESS BABOONS

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    so their really isn't anything left to debate.. because majority of muslims accept them as authentic .. so they believe their prophet was like in bukhari and muslim and other hadith books..

     Many of them have not read Quran and 99%  so-called Muslims are brains washed by Hadith, They often became Muslims for no fault of theirs.

    Quote
    that's one of the reasons i left islam.. i couldn't accept all the barbaric hadith..

    well reject Hadith and Read Quran only....

    Quote
    their is even a verses in the quran that specify worldly punishments for sin.. i don't  see how you can deny that fact.. when muslims themselves acknowledge it..

     I don't deny the fact there is some rubbish in Quran but those words may have come from OT & NT and on top of it Quran it self was written after the death of Prophet of Islam  20 to 30 years after his death. A careful reading of Quran tells me most of it is from OT,  NT and Arabian Pagan stories of that time,  So there is some good and some bad in it as you will find in any religious scriptures..


    I see you changed the name of the thread as "Muhammad's urine".. Thank you.. would you mind changing it to Bukhari Bull Shit  and Muhammad's Urine..

    with best regards
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #41 - November 11, 2011, 10:54 AM

    Of course their is good in the qur'an i won't deny it.. but you cannot simply overlook the bad .. when we are talking about the cutting of hands and feet.. the flogging of fornicators..

    it becomes serious business.. and their are quranic verses which call for these punishments.. i don't see how u can deny it.. it's right there in plain sight.. is their any arabic speaking person on this forum that can verify this for me

    they are called hudud..
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #42 - November 11, 2011, 11:05 AM

    Of course their is good in the qur'an i won't deny it.. but you cannot simply overlook the bad .. when we are talking about the cutting of hands and feet.. the flogging of fornicators..

     well most of it  came from Old testament stories..

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    it becomes serious business.. and their are quranic verses which call for these punishments.. i don't see how u can deny it.. it's right there in plain sight.. is their any arabic speaking person on this forum that can verify this for me

    they are called hudud..

    Yes.. Islam became business to rule people.. we got to take that business out of Islam and make it personal.. NO Mullah  No Baboons..    make them clean the gutters..  if they talk too much, clean shave them,  put them in jail with a big mirror so they can see their faces..  the way Kemal Ataturk did to those bearded turkeys

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #43 - November 11, 2011, 11:07 AM


    Look at the colour of that piss. He really needs to drink more water.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #44 - November 11, 2011, 11:48 AM

    When i was muslim i used to despise Ataturk for what he did..me and my muslim friends in tabligh considered him a munafiq..


    now that i have left islam.. i admire him so much... really he's my hero


    funny how things change ..  Smiley


    but the current pm Erdogan might serve as a problem for secular Turkey
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #45 - November 11, 2011, 11:50 AM

    your right.. and they should do away with the hadith also ..


  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #46 - November 11, 2011, 01:23 PM

    When i was muslim i used to despise Ataturk for what he did..me and my muslim friends in tabligh considered him a munafiq..


    now that i have left islam.. i admire him so much... really he's my hero


    funny how things change ..  Smiley


    but the current pm Erdogan might serve as a problem for secular Turkey


     001_wub

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcfm0lEpiTA

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  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #47 - November 11, 2011, 02:41 PM


    Or that the best way to deal with Islam is to send a nuke to mecca?


    You're so crap I can't find the words.

    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #48 - November 11, 2011, 02:45 PM

    Quote
    So you are in agreement with Ali Sina that muslims are subhuman?

    Or that the best way to deal with Islam is to send a nuke to mecca?

    You're so crap I can't find the words.


    Huh!

    who is crap??  then what are you doing neale ?? clean the crap...

    do you  need help?? I can get the broom & pan..



    A person like that can not be crappy.. there must be some mistake  neale

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #49 - November 11, 2011, 02:48 PM

    When i was muslim i used to despise Ataturk for what he did..me and my muslim friends in tabligh considered him a munafiq..


    now that i have left islam.. i admire him so much... really he's my hero


    funny how things change ..  Smiley


    but the current pm Erdogan might serve as a problem for secular Turkey

    No..No.no Erdogan  is walking a tight rope.. that is what politicians do..  off course,  he too need to be sent to some school where they educate politicians on the history of the nations and cultures..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #50 - November 11, 2011, 02:51 PM

    You're so crap I can't find the words.


    At least try to find them.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #51 - November 11, 2011, 02:53 PM

    your right.. and they should do away with the hadith also ..


    Yap .. getrid of it.. burn it and whenever you get chance insult the Muslims Mullah fools  who says Hadith is real Islam.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-sTTn_XX28


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9xDDAze2UY
    well that BUM is dead....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #52 - November 11, 2011, 02:55 PM


    Huh!

    who is crap??  then what are you doing neale ?? clean the crap...

    do you  need help?? I can get the broom & pan..

    A person like that can not be crappy.. there must be some mistake  neale


    It was a stupid thing to say the first time she said it, each time she repeats it it increases in stupid.

    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #53 - November 11, 2011, 02:58 PM


    What specifically is stupid about it? Be exact please.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #54 - November 11, 2011, 03:00 PM

    It was a stupid thing to say the first time she said it, each time she repeats it it increases in stupid.

    who said that first time?  
    why did she say that??  
    Yap we got to lock her up.. she speaks too much nonsense

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #55 - November 11, 2011, 03:13 PM



    I can't speak for her, only what I have taken from what was said and the meaning that I think was behind it.

    Criticism of the generally held beliefs of muslims (proper muslims that is (those who observe the pillars)) is taken as some kind of intolerance. This perceived intolerance is caricatured in the comment; "next you'll be wanting a nuclear strike on mecca". This is stupid. It is designed to stifle criticism of muslims (proper muslims) by portraying the person levelling the criticism as some kind of intolerant extremist.



    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #56 - November 11, 2011, 03:14 PM


    She's referencing a particular individual who says those things, not criticism of Islam.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #57 - November 11, 2011, 03:19 PM


    Yes, and she is lumping in people like me and Bowser with people who want to nuke mecca. This is stupid. That's all I'm saying.

    And we're talking about criticism of muslims, not Islam.


    "Happy happy, joy joy!" Stimpson J Cat.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #58 - November 11, 2011, 03:24 PM

    She responded to this statement by Bowser

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    i don't know what u guys have against FFI

     

    She then gave him the gist of it with a couple of explanations.

    What is stupid about that?




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #59 - November 11, 2011, 03:25 PM


    I can't speak for her, only what I have taken from what was said and the meaning that I think was behind it.

    Oh! what was said.. so you mean to say that she didn't say that?? lol..

    Any ways who said nuclear strike on Mecca??
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      "next you'll be wanting a nuclear strike on mecca". This is stupid. ..

    Who??  what??/   me?? me said that??  
    Damn    terrorist brain..  
    So who said that and why?

    Let us ask Goggle goddess..

    1). Consequences of Nuking Mecca

    2). Nuke Mecca? Nope.

    3). There is nothing wrong in Nuking Mecca / Medina / Tehraan / Damascus

    well that is what I get...   there could be many more..


    Yes, and she is lumping in people like me and Bowser with people who want to nuke mecca. This is stupid. That's all I'm saying.

    And we're talking about criticism of muslims, not Islam.

    Damn stupid yeezevee...  brain is not working..  Glad finally I understood you.

    That is indeed stupid  neale

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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