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 Topic: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O

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  • Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     OP - January 08, 2012, 04:32 PM

    Ok so there is this video Muslims are posting everywhere. They're trying to prove that men and women can't be friends,and that Islam was right about separating the two genders,because men are assholes and women are dumb for taking men as friends.

    I believe that this video was originally made for the lolz,but Muslims took it way too seriously.

    Anyways,I just wanted to see what you guys think. Do you think men and women can be friends?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA&feature=related
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #1 - January 08, 2012, 04:40 PM

    My current BFF is a man!  Most of my closest friends throughout my life have
    been men, and not only my friends, but best of friends.  And absolutely no
    hanky panky with 99 percent of them lol. 

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #2 - January 08, 2012, 04:52 PM


    LOL @ the conclusion. What if the man is gay?
    Fail -_-

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #3 - January 08, 2012, 04:54 PM

    gay men make the absolute best friends!!! 
    ghost

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #4 - January 08, 2012, 04:55 PM

    Think it depends on the people in question.  Some men and women can't be friends because they were raised in a way that went on to make mixed friendships slightly awkward for them and some people find it easier because they have always been around the opposite sex in that easy way in the first place. 

    Islam seperates the sexes and then asks the question, without realising that it created the question in the first place. 


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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #5 - January 08, 2012, 04:57 PM

    ^ +1

  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #6 - January 08, 2012, 05:15 PM

    The thing is from what I read in the comments,women were more likely to disagree with the video,unlike men.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #7 - January 08, 2012, 06:02 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy ive seen this video. even though opinions vary its still funny  Smiley

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #8 - January 08, 2012, 06:08 PM

    i don't think its possible
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #9 - January 08, 2012, 06:35 PM

    I'm straight and it is possible to just be friends, it's as simple as that. The video was pretty funny though. Cheesy

  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #10 - January 09, 2012, 03:39 AM

    of course they can be friends...
    just like they can be brother and sister...
    i see my friends as part of my family.. they are my family members that i get to choose  Smiley

    it all depends on how you see it...
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #11 - January 09, 2012, 04:37 AM

    Video is flawed on so many levels.

    First of all, interviewing a bunch of white American preppy well-to-do college kids in their early 20s/late teens is hardly a good sample to answer such a big question. Shit, even interview the emo males at such a place and you'd get a different answer I'm sure, but if everybody you're interviewing is from the exact same race, nationality, economic status, age, and even subculture, you either got some big fuckin balls or a small fuckin brain to make a universal claim based on those interviews. Age especially-- gee, ask a bunch of horny young guys if they would fuck their female friends what answer do you expect exactly?

    Second, the scenario where sexual attraction is completely removed from the scenario (like as Jema indicated, when one or both friends are gay) is not addressed at all.

    Finally, the most glaring defect-- the idea that just because a man might want to have sex with a woman he is friends with means they can't truly be friends is a logical non-sequitur. I can think of many female friends I have that under the proper circumstances I would have sex with, but I have not had sex with, do not expect to ever have sex with, and yet I still want to be friends with them independent of their physical attractiveness. I will admit that their physical attractiveness may have made me wanted to know them in the first place, but that doesn't make me stay friends with them-- those who do hoping someday they'll move out of the friend zone are known as "suckers" or "opportunistic douchebags". I can think of a few female friends I once got close with cause I found them attractive but I don't really find them sexually attractive anymore but I hang out with them cause they're good folks, or I do still find them attractive but sex is off the table and I still want to hang out with them.

    As to a direct answer to Mr Preppy Douchebag Haircut's question-- being "just" friends with someone you are physically attracted to, especially if the attraction is mutual, is indeed difficult, but not even fuckin close to impossible, and just cause you and your buddies at Date Rape U are shallow fucks with very little life experience and think it's impossible doesn't make it so. Then I'd probably cold cock the shit out of principle, take his money and go get drunk and try to bang his girlfriend.

    fuck you
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #12 - January 09, 2012, 08:56 AM

    That was all the people in the library?
    humm...
    I think the vidoe evidence does not stand up to the claim that it is conclusive proof that men and women can not be just friends.
    -I don't know how the film maker managed to be interviewing at the library on a day when all the young men there had sexual impulse problems. Perhaps... selective editting?
    -Really? All the men all those young women were friends with really seceretly wanted to have sex with them. Perhap... but I think that maybe some part of the account is left untold.

    I even believe in a cetian amount of seperetness of men and women from a religious point of view however it is very possible to have a friend of the other sex.

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #13 - January 09, 2012, 12:51 PM

    Video is flawed on so many levels.

    First of all, interviewing a bunch of white American preppy well-to-do college kids in their early 20s/late teens is hardly a good sample to answer such a big question. Shit, even interview the emo males at such a place and you'd get a different answer I'm sure, but if everybody you're interviewing is from the exact same race, nationality, economic status, age, and even subculture, you either got some big fuckin balls or a small fuckin brain to make a universal claim based on those interviews. Age especially-- gee, ask a bunch of horny young guys if they would fuck their female friends what answer do you expect exactly?

    Second, the scenario where sexual attraction is completely removed from the scenario (like as Jema indicated, when one or both friends are gay) is not addressed at all.

    Finally, the most glaring defect-- the idea that just because a man might want to have sex with a woman he is friends with means they can't truly be friends is a logical non-sequitur. I can think of many female friends I have that under the proper circumstances I would have sex with, but I have not had sex with, do not expect to ever have sex with, and yet I still want to be friends with them independent of their physical attractiveness. I will admit that their physical attractiveness may have made me wanted to know them in the first place, but that doesn't make me stay friends with them-- those who do hoping someday they'll move out of the friend zone are known as "suckers" or "opportunistic douchebags". I can think of a few female friends I once got close with cause I found them attractive but I don't really find them sexually attractive anymore but I hang out with them cause they're good folks, or I do still find them attractive but sex is off the table and I still want to hang out with them.

    As to a direct answer to Mr Preppy Douchebag Haircut's question-- being "just" friends with someone you are physically attracted to, especially if the attraction is mutual, is indeed difficult, but not even fuckin close to impossible, and just cause you and your buddies at Date Rape U are shallow fucks with very little life experience and think it's impossible doesn't make it so. Then I'd probably cold cock the shit out of principle, take his money and go get drunk and try to bang his girlfriend.



    +1  Cheesy Cheesy

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #14 - January 09, 2012, 02:05 PM

    As to a direct answer to Mr Preppy Douchebag Haircut's question-- being "just" friends with someone you are physically attracted to, especially if the attraction is mutual, is indeed difficult, but not even fuckin close to impossible, and just cause you and your buddies at Date Rape U are shallow fucks with very little life experience and think it's impossible doesn't make it so. Then I'd probably cold cock the shit out of principle, take his money and go get drunk and try to bang his girlfriend.


    Cheesy  Cheesy

    So true,I can't believe my Muslim buddies took him seriously.

    That was all the people in the library?
    humm...
    I think the vidoe evidence does not stand up to the claim that it is conclusive proof that men and women can not be just friends.
    -I don't know how the film maker managed to be interviewing at the library on a day when all the young men there had sexual impulse problems. Perhaps... selective editting?
    -Really? All the men all those young women were friends with really seceretly wanted to have sex with them. Perhap... but I think that maybe some part of the account is left untold.

    I even believe in a cetian amount of seperetness of men and women from a religious point of view however it is very possible to have a friend of the other sex.



    It's so obvious that he intended for the video to be this way. It's supposed to be funny. Like you said,it's selective editing.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #15 - January 09, 2012, 04:16 PM

    Cheesy  Cheesy

    So true,I can't believe my Muslim buddies took him seriously.

    It's so obvious that he intended for the video to be this way. It's supposed to be funny. Like you said,it's selective editing.


     Funny?
    I have such a problem with humor.  I'll think something is so funny and my friends will not. Then other things like this video... funny? humm... What part is funny?

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #16 - January 10, 2012, 01:20 AM

    It's possible.

    I fucking can't stand people telling me it's not. I've gotten that all my life... from, surprise surprise, Muslims. My mom loves to say this all the time too. It's so aggravating.

    Because I'm living proof of it. I have some completely platonic relationships with guys that I really value, and the thing is that most of my friends are guys because I find that I get along with them better. So telling me I can't fucking be friends with men is almost like telling me I can't have any friends.

    And then there might be those relationships where only one side is attracted to the other, but they know, very clearly, that the other person is probably never going to consider dating them - so that works too. And like Q said even where the attraction is mutual, but for whatever reason both sides have decided that's not enough and they still don't want to date, they can also be friends in this situation.

    So fuck these people's medieval bullshit. I don't want to watch the video... maybe later when I'm more in the mood for laughs.

    The problem with Islam is that it eliminates everything based only on a "risk" factor. But what they don't realize is that a lot of things in life are risks, but they don't eliminate those either because life would be truly unlivable for them then.

    Like with sex, don't place a man and a woman in the same room alone just because they MIGHT end up fucking each other's brains out.  Cheesy That's it. It fails to even consider that maybe a particular man and woman may not even be attracted to each other at all. In fact, depending on which Muslim you talk to, it's not even a "maybe" it's a "definite" that they will end up having sex because shaytaan is in the room with them.  Cheesy

    With alcohol, although it's prohibited on all grounds, I believe the background on why Islam prohibits it (one of the many reasons) is just because again, of the risk factor of getting drunk, and the problems that may come with that, and they thought it would be easier to eliminate it completely instead of teaching people responsible drinking - because that would  be a "blurry" or "gray" line and there is no gray in religion, just black and white thinking.

    Lazy way of thinking and living = Islam.

    Rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #17 - January 10, 2012, 01:55 AM


    Like with sex, don't place a man and a woman in the same room alone just because they MIGHT end up fucking each other's brains out.  Cheesy That's it. It fails to even consider that maybe a particular man and woman may not even be attracted to each other at all. In fact, depending on which Muslim you talk to, it's not even a "maybe" it's a "definite" that they will end up having sex because shaytaan is in the room with them.  Cheesy


    This absurdity is what makes it hard for most muslim men to be friends with females and be better colleagues with them as well.I observed they are conditioned to see females as nothing but sexual object and inferior sex which leads to gender segregation to an extremity that consequently impairs  communication between both sexes.

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #18 - January 10, 2012, 02:14 AM

    LOL! I have seen that silly video on Facebook. That one and another one where this Christian (i think Catholic) apologist is talking about women and "modesty" are quite popular amongst Muslim youth as far I have observed. Roll Eyes

    I have female friends, some are good friends of mine. So of course men and women can be friends. But this is what I have mentioned earlier (and many other of us have been mentioning) islam is obsessed with human sexuality, but in a very repressive and absurd way. According to Allah, the prophet and the mullahs we all are not men and women walking around, but actually penises and vaginas walking around. We have no personality at all. We are merely a bunch of genitals. Who cant control ourselves. With ourselves i mean, us men. The women have no sexuality at all according to Islam. I know that some will complain and say I am over exaggerating and so on, but still this is how its practiced in reality. I am not meaning this don't have sex before marriage. That is "moderate", its the whole religion. A religion based on repressive sexual culture.

    The Muslims need their own sexual revolution. That might help. Afro

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            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #19 - January 10, 2012, 02:23 AM

    This absurdity is what makes it hard for most muslim men to be friends with females and be better colleagues with them as well.I observed they are conditioned to see females as nothing but sexual object and inferior sex which leads to gender segregation to an extremity that consequently impairs  communication between both sexes.


    Well this is how they think: There are no women, only walking vaginas.  Cheesy

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #20 - January 10, 2012, 04:25 AM

    LOL! I have seen that silly video on Facebook. That one and another one where this Christian (i think Catholic) apologist is talking about women and "modesty" are quite popular amongst Muslim youth as far I have observed. Roll Eyes

    I have female friends, some are good friends of mine. So of course men and women can be friends. But this is what I have mentioned earlier (and many other of us have been mentioning) islam is obsessed with human sexuality, but in a very repressive and absurd way. According to Allah, the prophet and the mullahs we all are not men and women walking around, but actually penises and vaginas walking around. We have no personality at all. We are merely a bunch of genitals. Who cant control ourselves. With ourselves i mean, us men. The women have no sexuality at all according to Islam. I know that some will complain and say I am over exaggerating and so on, but still this is how its practiced in reality. I am not meaning this don't have sex before marriage. That is "moderate", its the whole religion. A religion based on repressive sexual culture.

    The Muslims need their own sexual revolution. That might help. Afro


    Eh, they recognize women have sexuality. Well, only married women of course.  Tongue

    I heard this hilarious thing once, I think it may have been part of a hadith... that said the best women and a great characteristic of a muslim woman in particular, is for her to be shy, modest and quiet in public, shameful and everything about sexuality, but alone with her husband during sex she lets loose and reveals her inner vixen.  Cheesy

    So basically to be the ideal muslimah is to be wild in bed but act like a nonsexual being outside of that lol. Must be hard to switch back and forth between personalities.  wacko

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #21 - January 10, 2012, 05:10 AM

    I didn't think people took the "lady in the streets, freak in the sheets" mentality to heart. By that description, the perfect Muslim should either have DID or be a sexually available android.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #22 - January 10, 2012, 06:02 AM

    Well this is how they think: There are no women, only walking vaginas.  Cheesy




    Agreed.

    Speaking with my own experience, Muslim men have been brought up with the notions that a woman's sole purpose is to get married to a man and serve him in order to attain paradise. Most Muslim men cannot fathom the fact that women are also humans with distinct personalities.
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #23 - January 10, 2012, 08:22 AM

    Eh, they recognize women have sexuality. Well, only married women of course.  Tongue

    I heard this hilarious thing once, I think it may have been part of a hadith... that said the best women and a great characteristic of a muslim woman in particular, is for her to be shy, modest and quiet in public, shameful and everything about sexuality, but alone with her husband during sex she lets loose and reveals her inner vixen.  Cheesy

    So basically to be the ideal muslimah is to be wild in bed but act like a nonsexual being outside of that lol. Must be hard to switch back and forth between personalities.  wacko



    Really?

    I have never read this.  Sounds more like someone twisted the Western saying of freak in the bedroom lady in the streets.

    From what i remember, the ideal muslim woman should have zero sexual urges aside from to be available to her husband, and be highly religious.

    If the ideal muslim women was supposed to have the potential to be highly sexual, there wouldn't be any hadiths that even hint at her circumcision.  Yet there are.  Sure not all muslims roll with that, but considering the extremes some muslims will go to to ensure that a muslim woman doesn't have sexual urges, pretty much show how unfreakish a muslim woman needs to be with her hubby.


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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #24 - January 10, 2012, 08:47 AM

    And whatever happened to just being fuck buddies?


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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #25 - January 11, 2012, 11:42 AM

    The problem with Islam is that it eliminates everything based only on a "risk" factor. But what they don't realize is that a lot of things in life are risks, but they don't eliminate those either because life would be truly unlivable for them then.


    Exactly! There was this religious girl who was talking about how bad it is for men and women to be friendly with each other. She said Islam spares you the torment of having a secret crush on some guy by not letting you see guys in the first place Cheesy

    From what i remember, the ideal muslim woman should have zero sexual urges aside from to be available to her husband, and be highly religious.


    My mom once told me that men hate their wives showing they're enjoying sex and that they're disgusted by such women....
  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #26 - January 11, 2012, 10:35 PM

    My mom once told me that men hate their wives showing they're enjoying sex and that they're disgusted by such women....


    I hope she was being funny!  wacko

  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #27 - January 11, 2012, 10:42 PM

    Exactly! There was this religious girl who was talking about how bad it is for men and women to be friendly with each other. She said Islam spares you the torment of having a secret crush on some guy by not letting you see guys in the first place Cheesy

     Cheesy

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #28 - January 12, 2012, 12:47 AM

    Personally 80% of my friends are guys. The women I've met tend to be too preppy and catty  wacko

    Even if you separate the sexes, puberty happens and those hormones start kicking in. Saying that it eliminates desire is bullshit, it builds up the sexual tension.
    Separating the sexes in Islam is nice way though to get women eager to find hubbies though so they can get some kind of affection to ease the tension.  Roll Eyes

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  • Re: Men and Women Can't be Friends :O
     Reply #29 - January 12, 2012, 01:38 AM

    I hope she was being funny!  wacko


    No I doubt she was.

    Cos I was married to someone who would lose his erection quick smart if it even seemed like I was overly into it.

    He liked to feel it was more of a conquering situation, rather than a 2 way exchange.

    My grandmother also advised me on how to deal with sex and in her eyes I should just close my eyes and think of 'allah' because it was horrible and no good woman really enjoyed that.

    My step mother also once confessed to me (and I am scarred for life now) that she was pleased my father liked her to enjoy sex, since most men didn't.  (I seriously did not need to know that Grin  )


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