google.com, search ‘male privilege’…
Likewise, google.com, search 'female privelege'...
I apologise if I was not clear earlier. I never suggested that sexism was a problem of the past, it is most definitely still a problem today – yes, even in ‘the west’.
And what about sexism against men? Or do you still think women are being enslaved by men?
Patriarchy is harmful to everyone, even though men benefit from it more than women (read ‘Understanding Patriarchy’ by bell hooks if you’re really interested in this).
Again, I ask, how is the society we are living in currently patriarchy? Even society in the past didn't grant the common man many rights, although more than woman, the common man still had very little rights. It was mainly the rich and powerful oppressing everyone else. The common man hasn't always somehow been very dominant in the world, only the rich and powerful men.
Basic human rights consist of being seen as human (men are seen as human, whereas women are seen as the other),
Please tell me how women are not seen as human? What are you even trying to say? You still haven't given me one example.
having the freedom to walk around without fearing for your life,
What?
not being discriminated against for having children,
Women are actually rewarded for this in the form of child support. Please elaborate then how they are discriminated? If anything men are discriminated for impregnating a woman. In fact, unless both the woman and the man want the child, the man loses out.
If the man wants the child but the woman doesn't, he has no way in stopping her from getting an abortion
If the man doesn't want the child, yet the woman does, he has to pay for it in the form of child support.
Now, tell me, is this logical and rational? And how on Earth does this discriminate against woman?
not being paid less than male colleagues who do the same job,
Evidence of this please? Can you get me any real life example of any employer paying women less than men please? Because I find this very hard to believe in.
not being shamed for having a sex drive and sleeping with people
Most people actually don't care what a woman does in her spare time. Yes some people will be bothered about it, but who cares?
single mothers not being blamed for society’s problems
I wouldn't necessary say that people blame all single mothers for society's problem. Most people blame the fact that family values are diminishing. People also say that single motherhood leads to the lack of a masculine figure in children's lives. I haven't read much into this, so I'm just putting out what the main criticism of single motherhood are about.
not being blamed for being raped because of clothing
Unfortunately some close minded people do think like this. The best way to educate them is to get information out there/studies which prove this a myth. It's the best thing you can do, and over time opinions will change.
not being asked during interviews if you want kids
And how is this in any way sexist? Don't women have the ability to have children? You are being completely delusional if you think that Men are the exact same replicas of women and vice versa.
and how you’re going to balance work & family… etc
As above.
I'm sorry but those sites are absolute jokes. I mean this is what they call 'sexism':
2012-11-04 16:28
Fairy Liquid ad featuring mum & daughter (of course). What century are we in? Is this the best advertisers can come up with
I wonder what these women would really be saying if family courts were biased against them, which is the true sexism, not whining about some ad on TV.
Oh yeah, remember that kid who killed himself because someone called him a pervert.
Well you're comparing this to kids now, whereas I clearly meant it for grown adults, the word pervert is clearly more damaging than the word slut. Not teens/kids.
If so many men ‘believe’ in friend-zoning, then we must question why these men feel entitled to women. What is wrong with these men that when a woman decides she is not interested in them makes them invent friend-zoning in order to console themselves? Many people also believe in aliens, there is anecdotal evidence of them being probed in the butt, but so what? It’s easy to believe in bullshit,
you’re proof of that.
I wouldn’t say encouraged, but there are many men who feel that it is acceptable to harass women
There are also people out there who feel it's acceptable to murder others. Do these people represent the view of all humans?
Sexual harassment is something (most) women have to deal with every time they leave the house
Wait, you're telling me that
most women are sexually harassed in public?
I’d expect the law to take rape seriously too, but it’s often the case that most rapists don’t even get prosecuted. Not to mention victim-blaming and the fact that most women don’t report it. Why don’t they report it? Because of the stigma attached to it, because they’re blamed for ‘leading’ the men on, or they won’t be believed, or the fact that rape jokes and rape culture encourage women to keep such experiences to themselves.
‘A national study estimates only 37% of reported rapes are prosecuted. 18% of prosecuted rape cases end in a conviction.’ (
http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTen/07_Rape_Prosecution.pdf) Again, I agree that more should be done to do away with stigma against women for being promiscuous, because if it is, then women will report it more often and more rapists will be be caught and be put behind bars, as well the prosecuted rate rising as well.
Of course this happens to men! The majority of the victims are women and this is obvious considering the sexist, patriarchal culture we inhabit.
Not in terms of domestic abuse. In fact more than 40% of domestic abuse victims are male:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violenceIf you read some of the comments there, you will truly realise how male victims of domestic abuse are treated; they basically have no support whatsoever. Is this not sexist?
Oh wait, but it's in favour of women, it's can't be sexist, can it?
Now, if you want to discuss how men are affected by all this and how they’re disregarded as victims because patriarchal thinking constructs men as ‘always being up for sex’ and being ‘real men’ (and therefore not being victims of domestic violence and rape) then we can do that elsewhere. But you cannot challenge my points regarding women and the sexism they experience with ‘it happens to men too!’ You’re just hijacking the conversation with your ‘OMGZ MISANDRIST!’ cries.
Nope, I am not hijicaking the conversation, I was trying to point out that men who are the victims of those things are trivialized and in many cases not even cared about, in comparison to women who recieve a lot of support from the law enforcement which is contrary to your sexism claims.
OK, it happens, but what’s the connection?
Connection to what? All I'm trying to say is that not all women are like the angels you're painting them to be.
Pointing out the realities of a gender you do not belong to should not be seen as a personal attack, it’s a learning opportunity.
You claim realities yet give no evidence or proof?
Most of your claims of sexism are based upon how society perceive women. The same can be said about men, society puts pressure on men to be/act a certain way too (Inb4 you deny this).
The sexism I'm talking about is more akin to how women are given preferential treatment in the courts and in the eye of the law.
Be careful, everyone, we do not tolerate sexist, misogynistic, homophobic or racist language on this forum.
So are we going to overlook misandry?
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