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 Topic: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex

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  • UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     OP - February 16, 2012, 01:07 AM

    Emirati love guru Widad Lootah is not your typical marriage counsellor. She is an ultra-conservative Muslim who wears the full veil and talks a lot about sex, often quoting the Muslim holy book the Koran.

    On the eve of Valentine's day, Lootah is calling on Muslim and Arab women everywhere to "embrace love and love making."
    "Don't shy away from it, don't feel ashamed by it. Enjoy it, you're supposed to," she said in an interview with AFP, adding that she is trying to break common misconceptions that sex in Islam is only about conceiving children.

    "It's also about having fun," she said.

    Dressed in a shroud of black revealing only her eyes -- a choice, she says, that allows her to emulate the Muslim prophet's wives -- Lootah was frank and explicit about the importance Islam places on a healthy sex life.
    "It's at the core" of a happy marriage, she said.
    Lootah noted that her 11 years as a marriage counsellor at the Dubai courthouse made her realise that "what happens (or doesn't happen) in bed" is the main source of marital problems in the United Arab Emirates.

    Public, and in many cases private, discussions about sex are still taboo in much of the conservative Muslim world, a reality she says contradicts Islam's approach to the subject.

    There are only two simple rules for sex in Islam: you must be married "and anal sex is strictly forbidden," Lootah said.
    "Everything else, including all sexually intimate acts below the belly button, is allowed. Feel each other, touch each other, kiss each other all over... it's OK."

    The problem is, "there is so much shame and disgrace" associated with the enjoyment of sex in the Arab world.
    Lootah is an adamant believer in bringing the discussion of sex out into the open, although at times doing so has proven it can be a risky business.

    In 2009, she published the much-debated Muslim sex guide "Top Secret: Sexual Guidance for Married Couples."
    Her book, and her comments in interviews on the subject, initially triggered a slew of insults, condemnation and even threats against her life.

    "They called me all sorts of things: crazy, vile, immoral, criminal," she said. "Some even called me a traitor and spy for Israel and America."

    Today, Lootah is probably the UAE's most prominent marriage counsellor, known by her clients as "Mama Widad."
    Lootah has also vigorously lobbied her home government to introduce sexual education in Emirati schools.
    For older teens, "it's very important that we educate them, both males and females, about sex... we have to prepare them psychologically and emotionally for it, and we have to teach them about the act itself."

    But first, we must "educate the teachers so they can educate the students," said Lootah, adding that such education would also help protect young children from sexual predators.

    They have to be "taught what form of adult-child interaction is appropriate and what's not," she said. "We need to teach them so they know to recognise the danger when it's there."

    She said the taboos surrounding sex have also contributed to high divorce rates in the Emirates and to generally unhappy marriages.

    In about a month, Lootah plans to submit her second book, "Top Secret Volume Two," to the government censors, and in traditional Lootah style, its pages will contain a lot of sex talk.

    But this time, the topic of discussion is forbidden sex under Islam.

    "It's about homosexual and lesbian relations and their effect on the institution of marriage," said Lootah, adding that she had to tread carefully given the sensitivity of the subject and intense emotions it stirs in the Muslim world.
    When asked why she has taken on the cause of love and sex in Islam, Lootah argued that it was an issue of "women's rights."

    "I can't fix everything... but I can try and fix the role of women (in sex and marriage) in the Arab world."
    As for her opinion of Valentine's day, she says Islam forbids the celebration of non-Muslim holidays.
    "But if you consider Valentine's day as a mere reminder to show one's love to another, then why not? I don't object to it," she said. But "if that's the case, then every day should be Valentine's day."

    Any last words of advice?

    "Experience love... even before marriage, that's OK. But don't do anything forbidden by Islam."

    http://news.yahoo.com/uae-islamic-love-guru-urges-women-enjoy-sex-031708902.html

    I've read quite a few articles and books written by muslims about sex in Islam, they're usually forward 'moderate' muslims, this woman seems to be a salafi, they're usually staunchly against such things, the bold seems to imply she isn't against oral sex--most muslims are esp. salafis  wacko
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #1 - February 16, 2012, 01:14 AM

    There are only two simple rules for sex in Islam: you must be married..............................

    Well, no. It's also fine to rape slaves that you aren't married to. Is this included in her book? I'm sure instructions on the Islamically-correct way to rape your slaves would be useful and informative. Smiley


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    But this time, the topic of discussion is forbidden sex under Islam.

    "It's about homosexual and lesbian relations and their effect on the institution of marriage," said Lootah, adding that she had to tread carefully given the sensitivity of the subject and intense emotions it stirs in the Muslim world.

    So what are her conclusions?


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    I've read quite a few articles and books written by muslims about sex in Islam, they're usually forward 'moderate' muslims, this woman seems to be a salafi, they're usually staunchly against such things, the bold seems to imply she isn't against oral sex--most muslims are esp. salafis  wacko

    What texts do they base their opposition on?

    Oh and welcome back. Smiley

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #2 - February 16, 2012, 01:17 AM

    She sounds like a thoroughly sensible woman, far more sensible than her male counterparts who are seemingly following the same religion.  You can get that in any religion though - I found it with the nuns who were educating me and my peers.  They would encourage all manner of free thinking and debate about abortion, divorce, contraception, women priests and any other taboo that the priests, and Popes were clamping down on.

    I ended up thinking that these individual nuns had far more sense than the Catholic Church, and I also think this woman has far more sense than Islam and its so called "scholars".

    Btw, good to see you back, Aphrodite.  You were missed.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #3 - February 16, 2012, 01:19 AM


    I just googled her hoping for a buxom Haifa Wehbe type but....



     Tongue

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #4 - February 16, 2012, 01:21 AM

    She sounds like a thoroughly sensible woman, far more sensible than her male counterparts who are seemingly following the same religion.  


    Yeah, I'm not going to make fun, a sex guru in a burqa is a little ripe for satire, but what she is trying to do is healthy and good.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #5 - February 16, 2012, 01:38 AM

    Well, no. It's also fine to rape slaves that you aren't married to. Is this included in her book? I'm sure instructions on the Islamically-correct way to rape your slaves would be useful and informative. Smiley


    Afaik the Quran says you can have sex with your slaves, idk about rape, guess it comes down to interpretation.

    So what are her conclusions?


    On?

    What texts do they base their opposition on? Oh and welcome back. Smiley


    A hadith where Muhammed said to not have sex like animals do or something and Islamic jurists. The ones who are in favour of it say its a form of foreplay making it ok. Thanks  Smiley
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #6 - February 16, 2012, 01:43 AM

    She sounds like a thoroughly sensible woman, far more sensible than her male counterparts who are seemingly following the same religion.  You can get that in any religion though - I found it with the nuns who were educating me and my peers.  They would encourage all manner of free thinking and debate about abortion, divorce, contraception, women priests and any other taboo that the priests, and Popes were clamping down on.

    I ended up thinking that these individual nuns had far more sense than the Catholic Church, and I also think this woman has far more sense than Islam and its so called "scholars".

    Btw, good to see you back, Aphrodite.  You were missed.


    Yeah, I remember asking and debating my mum about things like sex and homosexuality. I could never have such convos with my dad or most male muslims. There's only one male Islamic scholar (that I know of) thats written about sex in Islam, he also happens to be a salafi. Its good to be back and thanks.

    I just googled her hoping for a buxom Haifa Wehbe type but....

    (Clicky for piccy!)

     Tongue


    It does say she's a niqabi in the article  Tongue
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #7 - February 16, 2012, 01:44 AM

    Yeah I missed that - the perils of speed reading  Tongue

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #8 - February 16, 2012, 03:38 AM

    Afaik the Quran says you can have sex with your slaves, idk about rape, guess it comes down to interpretation.

    Well if silence mean consent then sure, it wouldn't be rape. If coercion, or otherwise abusing a position of power, means that genuine consent cannot be given because there is no genuine option for refusal .........

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    On?

    This:

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    But this time, the topic of discussion is forbidden sex under Islam.

    "It's about homosexual and lesbian relations and their effect on the institution of marriage," said Lootah, adding that she had to tread carefully given the sensitivity of the subject and intense emotions it stirs in the Muslim world.



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    A hadith where Muhammed said to not have sex like animals do or something and Islamic jurists.

    Ok, so they don't have a lot to go on by the sound of it. She might have a good case for her point of view.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #9 - February 16, 2012, 03:57 AM

    Well if silence mean consent then sure, it wouldn't be rape. If coercion, or otherwise abusing a position of power, means that genuine consent cannot be given because there is no genuine option for refusal .........


    Idk about the silence thing. I know it says you can have sex with what your "right hand possess"  ie slaves.

    This:


    Don't know, would love to find out.

    Ok, so they don't have a lot to go on by the sound of it. She might have a good case for her point of view.


    Not much in terms of textual evidence, but the orthodox sunni position has been that its forbidden or disliked, its usually impossible to have any views outside of that orthodoxy without being called all sorts -_-
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #10 - February 16, 2012, 07:47 AM

    Thats odd, especially coming from Salafi, though its a good idea if they introduce sex education in school yet i doubt if that will happen.

    Is it a bid'ah if couples practice Kamasutra or Tantric sex?

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #11 - February 16, 2012, 08:59 AM

    Its called being weak. you can use your own imagination when havung sex. why would i look at a couple of pics telling me different positions to have sex. I have a sexually active imagination
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #12 - February 16, 2012, 09:19 AM

    I agree completely. That's why my favourite position involves being fisted by a robotic dwarf while singing the Marseillaise.
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #13 - February 16, 2012, 09:30 AM

    You're so conventional. Roll Eyes

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  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #14 - February 16, 2012, 09:33 AM

    Of course I am. It saves on masonry paint and glitter-related injuries.
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #15 - February 16, 2012, 10:18 AM

    Its called being weak. you can use your own imagination when havung sex. why would i look at a couple of pics telling me different positions to have sex. I have a sexually active imagination

     Roll Eyes

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #16 - February 16, 2012, 12:14 PM

    Muslims could use The Perfumed Garden.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #17 - February 16, 2012, 03:02 PM

    Why is it, that Arab culture has instructions for even the most trivial things? From how to wipe your ass to, enjoying sex.  Roll Eyes
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #18 - February 16, 2012, 03:12 PM

    Thats odd, especially coming from Salafi, though its a good idea if they introduce sex education in school yet i doubt if that will happen.

    Is it a bid'ah if couples practice Kamasutra or Tantric sex?


    Its only bidah if its adding or taking away something from the religious side of Islam.

    Practising something else which Islam has already rules for can be seen as bad as replacing say the political side of Islam ie kufr  Tongue
  • Re: UAE Islamic love guru urges women to enjoy sex
     Reply #19 - February 25, 2012, 08:57 PM

    Afaik the Quran says you can have sex with your slaves, idk about rape, guess it comes down to interpretation.
    Afaik the Quran says you can have sex with your slaves, idk about rape, guess it comes down to interpretation.

      




    Well seeing as slave women were often captured as war booty. I  find it impossible to imagine a situation where a woman would be willing to have sex with the man who killed her family..


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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