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 Topic: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years

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  • Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     OP - February 18, 2012, 02:24 PM

    Most muslims only point put atrocities against other muslims that have been committed by non-muslims, however in the last 50 years ALOT more muslims  have been killed by muslims then non-muslims.

    What i've noticed muslims have selective empathy over the death of there fellow muslims and completely ignore or are ignorant of the death of muslims if they've been killed by other muslims.

    I was looking for all the examples of muslims massacring in wars/civil wars/genocides in the last 50 years. So far i got

    Iran-Iraq war
    Darfor genocide
    Bangladeshi 1971 genocide
    shia/sunni/kurd sectarianism in iraq over last 20 years
    Black September where King Hussein killed 20k palestinians

    what others are there
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #1 - February 18, 2012, 04:15 PM

    The Civil war in Somalia
    The Civil war in Afghanistan

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #2 - February 18, 2012, 04:51 PM

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    Bangladeshi authorities claim that as many as 3 million people were killed, although the Hamoodur Rahman Commission, an official Pakistan Government investigation, put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties.[4] The international media and reference books in English have also published figures which vary greatly from 200,000 to 3,000,000 for Bangladesh as a whole. As a result of the conflict, a further eight to ten million people fled the country at the time to seek refuge in neighboring India.[5]

    Many of those killed were the victims of militias who fought with the West Pakistan Army: Razakars, Al-Shams and Al-Badr forces,[6] at the instruction of the Pakistani Army.[7] There are many mass graves in Bangladesh, and more are continually being discovered (such as one in an old well near a mosque in Dhaka, located in the non-Bengali region of the city, which was discovered in August 1999).[8] The first night of war on Bengalis, which is documented in telegrams from the American Consulate in Dhaka to the United States State Department, saw indiscriminate killings of students of Dhaka University and other civilians.[9]

    Some women were raped, tortured and killed during the war. The exact numbers are not known and are a subject of debate with some sources quoting figures as high as 400,000. One particular revelation concerns 563 young Bengali women, some only 18, who were held captive inside Dhaka's dingy military cantonment since the first days of the fighting. They were seized from Dhaka University and private homes and forced into military brothels, with some of the women carrying war babies being released.[10]

    There was significant sectarian violence not only perpetrated by the West Pakistani army,[1] but also by Bengali nationalists against non-Bengali minorities, especially Biharis.[11


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_atrocities

    On other places - Chechnya? 

    How do you count the numbers where Muslims lit the touch paper that led to a confrontation?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #3 - February 18, 2012, 08:09 PM


    February 1982 Hama massacre

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    The Hama massacre (Arabic: مجزرة حماة‎) occurred in February 1982, when the Syrian army, under the orders of the country's president, Hafez al-Assad, conducted a scorched earth operation against the town of Hama in order to quell a revolt by the Sunni Muslim community against the regime of al-Assad.[1] The Hama massacre, carried out by the Syrian Army under commanding General Rifaat al-Assad, President Assad's younger brother, effectively ended the campaign begun in 1976 by Sunni Islamic groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood, against Assad's regime, whose leaders were disproportionately from president Assad's own Alawite sect.

    Initial diplomatic reports from western countries stated that 1,000 were killed.[2][3] Subsequent estimates vary, with the lower estimates claiming that at least 10,000 Syrian citizens were killed,[4] while others put the number at 20,000 (Robert Fisk),[1] or 40,000 (Syrian Human Rights Committee).[5][6] About 1,000 Syrian soldiers were killed during the operation and large parts of the old city were destroyed. Alongside such few events as the Black September Massacre in Jordan,[7] the attack has been described as one of "the single deadliest acts by any Arab government against its own people in the modern Middle East".[8] The vast majority of the victims were civilians.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

    Not to forget the one presently being carried out by Hafez´s son. It has not yet reached the proportions of the Hama massacre, but it is well on its way to do so.

    Another massacre though on a smaller scale :

    April 1981 Hama massacre

    Quote
    The April 1981 Hama massacre occurred after a failed terrorist attack on an Alawite village near Hama. As a revenge action, the Syrian, Alawite dominated, army massacred about 400 of the Sunni Hama's inhabitants, chosen randomly among the male population over the age of 14


    Bolding done by me.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #4 - February 19, 2012, 08:28 PM

    Is the current Syrian regime calling Sunnis terrorists?  And are the Muslim Brotherhood in there?  So is Syria really a religious war?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #5 - February 19, 2012, 08:33 PM

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    The European wars of religion were a series of wars waged in Europe from ca. 1524 to 1648, following the onset of the Protestant Reformation in Western and Northern Europe. Although sometimes unconnected, all of these wars were strongly influenced by the religious change of the period, and the conflict and rivalry that it produced.
    Individual conflicts that can be distinguished within this topic include:
    conflicts immediately connected with the Reformation of the 1520s to 1540s:
    the German Peasants' War (1524–1525)
    the battle of Kappel in Switzerland (1531)
    the Schmalkaldic War (1546–1547) in the Holy Roman Empire
    the Eighty Years' War (1568–1648) in the Low Countries
    the French Wars of Religion (1562–1598)
    the Thirty Years War (1618–1648), affecting the Holy Roman Empire including Habsburg Austria and Bohemia, France, Denmark and Sweden
    The Wars of the Three Kingdoms (1639–1651), affecting England, Scotland and Ireland
    Scottish Reformation and Civil Wars
    English Reformation and Civil War
    Irish Confederate Wars and the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

    Hmm, The Middle East, North Africa and West Asia have not really got going yet!

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #6 - February 19, 2012, 08:37 PM

    Well they have. The Muslim conquests of all those regions did involve warfare.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #7 - February 19, 2012, 08:37 PM

    Maybe we need a new term, like World islamic Wars to encompass Bali, Nigeria, New York....

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #8 - February 19, 2012, 08:38 PM

    Well they have. The Muslim conquests of all those regions did involve warfare.


    I meant post WW2!

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #9 - February 19, 2012, 08:44 PM

    There have been stacks of wars in those regions after WW2.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #10 - February 19, 2012, 09:03 PM

    February 1982 Hama massacre

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

    Not to forget the one presently being carried out by Hafez´s son. It has not yet reached the proportions of the Hama massacre, but it is well on its way to do so.

    Another massacre though on a smaller scale :

    April 1981 Hama massacre

    Bolding done by me.




     Roll Eyes

    Not defending Hafez Al Assad but do you know why the army the army was sent into Hama? Islamists (yes those pesky people you always bitch about) began beheading people because they worked for the govt. or happened to be alawi thus kafir.

    Maybe we need a new term, like World islamic Wars to encompass Bali, Nigeria, New York....



    lulz, most of those wars happened for reasons (politics/interests, nationalism etc) and not Islam. Not every war in which muslims are involved in is done because of religious reasons.....

    Is the current Syrian regime calling Sunnis terrorists?  And are the Muslim Brotherhood in there?  So is Syria really a religious war?


    Sunnis that won't back the regime are being called all sorts. The muslim brotherhood is the biggest Islamist movement involved in the war, Al-Qaeda and other salafi groups are involved too. Religion is playing a huge part in the war--look up the names of the battalions of the "Free Syrian Army" and you'll realise how religious it is. If Syria had oil we'd see NATO arming these people  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #11 - February 19, 2012, 10:20 PM


     Roll Eyes

    Not defending Hafez Al Assad but do you know why the army the army was sent into Hama? Islamists (yes those pesky people you always bitch about) began beheading people because they worked for the govt. or happened to be alawi thus kafir.


    They're all swarthy, dangerous foreigners to Paloma. See they are infesting her fair Denmark and thus distinctions such as the one you made unimportant-- they're all bad people to her.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #12 - February 20, 2012, 08:13 AM


     Roll Eyes

    Not defending Hafez Al Assad but do you know why the army the army was sent into Hama?


    Yes, to quell a rebellion. However, Serpentofeden just asked for examples of Muslims killing Muslims and I gave one, so no need for your rolleyes.

    @Racoon Rapist - I like the swarthy look  Wink

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #13 - February 20, 2012, 09:20 AM

    Yes, to quell a rebellion. However, Serpentofeden just asked for examples of Muslims killing Muslims and I gave one, so no need for your rolleyes.

    @Racoon Rapist - I like the swarthy look  Wink


    The rolleyes was because of the example you gave, I never said its incorrect its just surprising. I'm not used to seeing non-muslims bring up a massacre perpetrated by a secular regime against Islamists. Btw, did you know about Hama before or after CNN or whatever news channel you watch mentioned it?  Tongue 
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #14 - February 20, 2012, 10:34 AM


    I read about it in a book by Bernard Lewis and as he wrote, Assad did not, as he could have, use rubber bullets and tear gas, no he rolled out big canons and practically reduced large swathes of the town to smithereens killing lots of civilians in the process.

    Contrary to what you and RR apparently think, I do not condone killing of innocent people be they Muslim or non-Muslim.

    And bye the way, I think the BL book is the only place I have seen or heard about this massacre, it seems to have been quickly forgotten.

    Quote
    I never said its incorrect its just surprising. I'm not used to seeing non-muslims bring up a massacre perpetrated by a secular regime against Islamists


    You need to get out more.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #15 - February 20, 2012, 11:03 PM

    I read about it in a book by Bernard Lewis and as he wrote, Assad did not, as he could have, use rubber bullets and tear gas



    Against armed opposition who were assassinating people?   


    no he rolled out big canons and practically reduced large swathes of the town to smithereens killing lots of civilians in the process.



    It was either that or lose power, being a dictator obsessed with power he hung onto it by any means necessary.


    Contrary to what you and RR apparently think, I do not condone killing of innocent people be they Muslim or non-Muslim.



    I didn't think nor imply that. I'm sorry if I appeared to accuse you of such things.

    And bye the way, I think the BL book is the only place I have seen or heard about this massacre, it seems to have been quickly forgotten.



    Its not forgotten about Islamists, I was told about it as an 8 year old, it was part of my anti-shia curriculum -_-


    You need to get out more.



    Agreed.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #16 - February 20, 2012, 11:26 PM

    I read about it in a book by Bernard Lewis


    Surprise, surprise.

    Quote
    Contrary to what you and RR apparently think, I do not condone killing of innocent people be they Muslim or non-Muslim.


    I do not think that. I simply think you are a xenophobic bigot.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #17 - February 21, 2012, 10:57 AM

    Quote from: Paloma on February 20, 2012, 11:34:16
    Quote
    I read about it in a book by Bernard Lewis and as he wrote, Assad did not, as he could have, use rubber bullets and tear gas


    Against armed opposition who were assassinating people? 


    I don´t know enough about the rebellion to judge whether rubber bullets and tear gas would have sufficed. How many rebels were there anyway ?  A 100, 500, 1,000 ? What kind of weapons did they have ? Rifles ? But practically reducing the town to rubble, killing lots of civilians in the process does seem excessively brutal. The number killed ranges between 10,000 – 40,000 and is probably somewhere in between. BL guesstimates 25,000.

    Be that as it may, as I said, Serpentofeden asked for examples of Muslims killing Muslims and I gave one.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #18 - February 21, 2012, 11:09 AM

    Surprise, surprise.


    What do you want to imply with this ?

     
    Quote
    I do not think that. I simply think you are a xenophobic bigot.


    A bigot ? Hm, perhaps, aren´t we all to some extent ? Lets see how Wikipedia defines bigot :

    Quote
    A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender.


    Bolded by me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot_(disambiguation)

    The 2 bolded parts suit you to a T, you have demonstrated time and again, that anyone who dares to have an opinion different to yours, gets slurs of various kinds hurled at them, same goes for people who don´t regard the Communist manifesto as the bible, so as one bigot to another, xenophobic I am not.




    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #19 - February 21, 2012, 11:10 AM

    Grin Grin Grin Exquisite riposte.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #20 - February 21, 2012, 11:21 AM

    Mhm...mhmm.. .mhmmm.. popcorn

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #21 - February 21, 2012, 02:47 PM

    A bigot ? Hm, perhaps, aren´t we all to some extent ? Lets see how Wikipedia defines bigot :

    Bolded by me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot_(disambiguation)

    The 2 bolded parts suit you to a T, you have demonstrated time and again, that anyone who dares to have an opinion different to yours, gets slurs of various kinds hurled at them, same goes for people who don´t regard the Communist manifesto as the bible, so as one bigot to another, xenophobic I am not.


    1. Partly true. People disagree with me all the time here, I only get genuinely* insulting with certain types of disagreements, and the standard I use for that definitely isn't adherence to Marxist orthodoxy.

    2. This is why I said I thought you were a xenophobic bigot-- so it would be clear exactly what sort of bigot I think you are. To be even more precise I think your attitude towards Muslims and those from Muslim-majority nations is formed through the prism of someone who is upset about Muslim immigration to their country, though I would suspect that the disapproval of Muslim immigrants probably extends to the second generation as well.

    ---

    *Insults against os for being a crazy Aussie roo-fucker don't count, nor do anti-limey or anti-communist kickball insults-- I make them whether or not I disagree with someone. Smiley

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #22 - February 21, 2012, 07:01 PM

    Quote from: Paloma on February 20, 2012, 11:34:16
    I don´t know enough about the rebellion to judge whether rubber bullets and tear gas would have sufficed. How many rebels were there anyway ?  A 100, 500, 1,000 ? What kind of weapons did they have ? Rifles ? But practically reducing the town to rubble, killing lots of civilians in the process does seem excessively brutal. The number killed ranges between 10,000 – 40,000 and is probably somewhere in between. BL guesstimates 25,000.



    There were hundreds, their campaign lasted for years : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_uprising_in_Syria

    It was indeed excessively brutal.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #23 - February 23, 2012, 12:43 PM


    Xenophobia = fear of that which is foreign and strange. So you think I am a xenophobic bigot specifically towards Muslims, even 2nd generation ones ? Well, that certainly depends what type of Muslim we are talking about. If it is the kind that blow themselves and others up, you bet I am phobic and by the way weren´t the 7/7 London bombers 2nd generation immigrants ?  Do I have scant sympathy for the likes of Anjem Choudry, his gang and those who subscribe to his views ? Yes.

    Am I worried about unlimited immigration ? Yes I am, however, not for xenophobic reasons, but for the reasons detailed in the reader´s letter below, which starts off mentioning the nearly empty coffers. By now they are not nearly empty, they are empty, the State Budget for 2012 has a deficit of 100 Billion DKK.

    Denmark has passed the tipping point and 49% of the population now has to provide for the 51%. This is untenable and if it continues or escalates, it may lead to the collapse of the welfare state (which, as a good Soc.Dem. I am in favour of) and as I wrote in a post to Musivore a year ago, If immigration takes place at a rate that the recipient countries cannot absorb, the welfare systems will collapse and that will benefit neither those already here or the new arrivals.

    Quote
    Expensive to run Social Security office

    Immigrants : As Bent Kalstrup writes, (NS 23.5.) it is inconceivable that no politician, no matter what party, mentions a word about the immigrant burden in their zeal to find some millions for the nearly empty coffers.

    MSc. Ebbe Vig, Aarhus, calculates in Jyllands-Posten (19:11:10) the annual net costs to be 194 billion. DKK.

    Over the past decades a majority in parliament opened the Danish borders wide to mass immigration of foreigners. It costs a fortune and they still owe us an explanation for doing so.

    Ekstra Bladet (21.5.11) writes that the ultra criminal Levakovic family from Croatia, who came to Denmark in the 70s, has cost the public purse at least 73.9 million. Imprisonment and time in other correctional facilities account for 37.3 mio and social benefits for the remaining 36.5 mio.

    Comprehensive criminal activity among the 40 family members, the majority of whom have Croatian citizenship, is the rule rather than the exception.

    And to top it all, the family has offered the City Council of Copenhagen to leave Denmark, if it gets paid 24 million. DKK



    Some members of the Levakovic family

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    And no, it's not April 1st.

    And yes, the examples are legio.

    Like Khalil Salem, called Fiz, Fiz. Lebanese (not a Danish citizen) who 29.3.11 was sentenced to six years imprisonment for major crimes.

    Expulsion ?

    Oh no, which was celebrated for three days in Vollsmose.

    His eight children annually cost the  taxpayers  600,000 DKK

    The non-expulsion has been appealed to the Supreme Court and if they overturn the sentence of the lower court his wife, who lives off benefits,  threatens to commit suicide.



    The text reads : Congratulation on the 6 years. Your street is waiting for you Fizfiz. Together with us.

    They could also have congratulated him on keeping his early pension payments even while he is in jail.

    Quote
    There is the family Alkhastov from Chechnya (JP 29.1.11), whose case for eight years has been reviewed and rejected by the Immigration and Refugee Board.

    In the course of those eight years they have produced five children that the father today claims, are Denmark's responsibility.

    The family was expelled in February this year but is still here and applying for humanitarian residency.

    According to Jyllands-Posten (February 2011)  30 percent of every resident over 50, of non-western origin, are on early retirement benefits, although  Ekstra Bladet has revealed that some Iraqis are healthy enough to work on the side in their homeland. (DR TV 11/08/2009)

    Information writes (21:10:10) that in Copenhagen alone there is approx. 3500 EU citizens, who receive child allowance, which annually costs the municipality 30-50 million DKK. (My note : Their families are not in Denmark, but in their homelands, while they are here for x no. of months building whatever their compatriot entrepreneur has won the contract on, in many cases being paid less by him than what a Dane would get. Don´t worry Q, the unions are on to it and are doing something to stop the underpayment.)

    As I said, it costs a fortune that we have evolved to be the Social Security office for much of the world.

    And it is shameful that we have to pay welfare benefits to foreigners  who have not contributed to the society, while at the same time we are told that we have to take out private insurance if we want benefits. So where is the logic in this circus?

    And if we allow ourselves to make demands or ask for conditions to be met, shame and guilt  are poured over our heads by politically correct people who believe they have a monopoly on being good, but only show solidarity when the bill is paid by others.

    When you read NORDJYSKE Stifttidende´s  opinion page, there's no limit to how many worn out and needy fellow citizens, the left wing parties can see and will cater to if they win  the upcoming election.

    Though traditionally the poor only become visible around Christmas time.

    According to Statistics Denmark (DR-TV 14.4.) every 4th citizen aged between 16 and 64 in 2010 was on social benefits.

    So the worn out and needy must surely then be among the 25 % who are productive and working to keep the business Denmark running, but there are probably not many votes to be had there.

    For, as Asger Aamund writes: "The country cries out for reforms, but it is actually the voters on social benefits, who determine who the next Prime Minister of Denmark is going to be. So probably not much is going to happen reform wise.

    "But in only about ten years, three million people will be on benefits out of a total electorate of four million. So the politicians are too late in their efforts to balance the economy ." (Berlingske Tidende, 31.8.10) "

    We are a long way from old Stauning´s (Denmark´s 1st Soc.Dem. prime minister) thoughts,  that the 80 per cent. of the population who are strong and can work should help the 20% who are weak "(Jyllands-Posten 21:11:10).

    Karl Marx wrote :"Democracy is a form of government that cannot long survive, for as soon as
    the people learn that they have a voice in the fiscal policies of the
    government, they will move to vote for themselves all the money in the
    treasury and bankrupt the nation.” (Quote from Peter Kershaw "Economic Solution).

    And obviously it goes even faster, when, in a welfare society, you invite hundreds of thousands of foreigners to join the party.



    http://www.nordjyske.dk/artikel/10/2825/53/3875938/3/dyrt%20at%20drive%20socialkontor


    I don´t necessarily agree with everything she wrote.

    I have nothing against my Palestinian background  baker of likewise Palestinian bicycle repair man (unless of course they are secret members of Al-Qaida) and I rather like this Palestinian co-host of a Danish TV show


    Abdel Aziz Mahmoud

    very sympathic. Easy on the eye too. Wink

    There are many others I could mention who have integrated well and are assets to the Danish society, but this post is long enough as it is.

    Oh, just one more, Omar Marzoug (Egyptian) Stand-up comedian, who has just made a series of shows on Danish TV called : Make fun of God, in which he visited congregations of various faith communities, Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim and some others and cracked jokes about their rituals and beliefs. Most of them laughed good naturedly at the jokes. He did receive 2 death threats though and as it pained him to say, from his Muslim brethren.


    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #24 - February 23, 2012, 01:14 PM

    What do you want to imply with this ?

     
    A bigot ? Hm, perhaps, aren´t we all to some extent ? Lets see how Wikipedia defines bigot :

    Bolded by me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot_(disambiguation)

    The 2 bolded parts suit you to a T, you have demonstrated time and again, that anyone who dares to have an opinion different to yours, gets slurs of various kinds hurled at them, same goes for people who don´t regard the Communist manifesto as the bible, so as one bigot to another, xenophobic I am not.







    Well I noticed something here ; whenever non-muslim writes something against Islam or muslims he is branded racist, bigot, Zionist agent, EDL-hooligan..Yet I have seen far worse words spoken (or written)  by ex-muslims and nobody battles an eyelid.

    Isn't it funny how cats can understand people without ever reading a single psychology book?
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #25 - February 23, 2012, 01:19 PM


    Well I noticed something here ; whenever non-muslim writes something against Islam or muslims he is branded racist, bigot, Zionist agent, EDL-hooligan..Yet I have seen far worse words spoken (or written)  by ex-muslims and nobody battles an eyelid.

    hmm.    Merry_Squirell sounds like Zionist agent.........

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #26 - February 23, 2012, 01:39 PM

    Yep Kiss

    Isn't it funny how cats can understand people without ever reading a single psychology book?
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #27 - February 24, 2012, 03:44 PM

    what's with all these posts that have nothing to do with muslims killing other muslims.
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #28 - February 24, 2012, 03:55 PM


    Well I noticed something here ; whenever non-muslim writes something against Islam or muslims he is branded racist, bigot, Zionist agent, EDL-hooligan..Yet I have seen far worse words spoken (or written)  by ex-muslims and nobody battles an eyelid.


    Provide evidence:

    1. That people who criticize Islam (not Muslims) are regularly branded racist or bigots or EDL hooligan by people here.

    2. That anyone here has called another member a "Zionist agent" without be roundly mocked, criticized, and/or condemned by the other members.

    3. That ex-Muslims say worse than those who have been branded racist or bigoted, and have not been criticized by the same people who have branded others as racist or bigots. As someone who has no problem calling someone a bigot/racist when I think they're engaging in gratuitous Muslim-bashing or just plain old ignorance or irrational fear, I can tell you I've had zero problem calling out the one or two ex-Muslims we've had here that do the same.

    If you cannot provide evidence (as QueenIsabel could not when she made a similarly retarded claim), please STFU.

    ETA: I suspect that the reason people like you make such accusations, but can't back them up, is that's how it appears to someone who can't discern the difference between principled criticism of Islam and Muslims and mindless Muslim-bashing, ignorance, and irrational fear-- you therefore have difficulty understanding those of us who do draw that line and regularly condemn those who fall on the wrong side of it.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Muslims killing other muslims in the last 50 years
     Reply #29 - February 24, 2012, 03:59 PM

    (Clicky for piccy!)
    Some members of the Levakovic family


    Those guys look cool. I would hang out with them. I don't know what the fuck you're complaining about.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
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