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 Topic: Arabic

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  • Arabic
     OP - February 23, 2012, 01:58 PM
    I talked to a guy from Egypt about arabic dialects. I asked him if he can understand people from Morroco or Tunisia  , he said; they don't even speak Arabic Huh? Huh?  He called that language , a word begins with ''g''..So is it really that incomprehensible?
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  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #1 - February 23, 2012, 02:05 PM
    He may have been talking about a berber language (Amazigh?), but he may have been referring to the fact that Moroccan and Tunisian Arabic are quite distinct from mainstream Arabic-in the same way that Somali Arabic is.
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  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #2 - February 23, 2012, 02:11 PM
    No, not amazigh.
    Isn't it funny how cats can understand people without ever reading a single psychology book?
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #3 - February 23, 2012, 02:19 PM
    Ok, well it might have been another berber language.
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

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  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #4 - February 23, 2012, 03:11 PM
    Kabyle?

    But no, your friend is wrong. Most Maghrebi people are Arabophones.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #5 - February 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
    But yes, our dialects can be a bit hard for other Arabs to understand. Actually, pretty hard, most of the time.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #6 - February 23, 2012, 03:39 PM
    Don't humour yourself. Your dialect is hard for anyone to understand. Grin
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  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #7 - February 26, 2012, 01:25 PM
    I don't think the Egyptian bloke was at all refering to any Berber language. I believe if was just some sort of chauvinism because the Arabic dialects spoken in those countries is quite different from the ones spoken in the Middle-East (even though Egypt is technically not par of the ME)

    On a slightly unrelated topic, I'm starting to resent the fact that when talking about North Africa, people would automatically mention Morocco and Tunisia and dismiss the huge-ass 2 million km² surface, almost 40 million inhabitants slab of land that's right in between Tongue
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #8 - February 26, 2012, 01:36 PM

    I had some Iraqi colleagues some years ago who were on a job for the company in Algeria. They said they had a hard time understanding the Algerian Arabic. One of the reasons may have been, that the Algerians, according to my colleagues, mixed so many French words into their Arabic. However, the Algerians also had trouble understanding my colleagues Iraqi version of Arabic.
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  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #9 - February 26, 2012, 01:58 PM
    We do mix a lot of French words in, however we are all perfectly capable of not uttering a single French words if needed (like when speaking with fellow arabophones). I think it's more likely the lack of exposure. An Algerian will have no trouble understanding an Egyptian, Lebanese or Syrian because we watch their tv shows, movies and listen to their music. We are almost never exposed to Iraqi stuff in the media, and those other nationalities never hear our dialect unless it's spoken in person.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #10 - February 26, 2012, 02:02 PM
    After urban Saudi Arabic, I think urban (Damascene) Syrian is the most widely understood lehje due to all the TV shows.
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #11 - February 26, 2012, 02:05 PM
    Bad enough that we have all those Syrian tv shows, now they started dubbing Turkish and Indian soaps in their dialect, too Tongue
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #12 - February 26, 2012, 02:12 PM
    ^ touché !!  Cheesy Cheesy

    my mom sits around all day watching those turkish dubbed dramas.. they've become some sort of phenomenon ..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #13 - February 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
    Hey! I didn't hear anyone complaining when we dubbed half of the Arab world's cartoons. I remember watching Arabic Pokemon among others and my dad pointing out all of the production company employees who were either with him in the army, at university or distant relatives.  Cheesy
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #14 - February 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
     Cheesy Cheesy ..  i know people in the production industry .. and my dad used to be in the army.. holy smokes sprout!! we could be related by breast  milk..  w00t

    according to my mother we are related to prophet mo himself!!.. lmao!


    but yeah.. i don't think what we speak is "arabic" it's more like  "arablish"
    i know some lebanese people who do not consider themselves arabs..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #15 - February 26, 2012, 02:47 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on February 26, 2012, 02:12 PM
    ^ touché !!  Cheesy Cheesy

    my mom sits around all day watching those turkish dubbed dramas.. they've become some sort of phenomenon ..


    Same here. Even I watched Mohannad & Noor almost religiously  grin12
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #16 - February 26, 2012, 02:48 PM
    Quote from: Sprout on February 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
    Hey! I didn't hear anyone complaining when we dubbed half of the Arab world's cartoons. I remember watching Arabic Pokemon among others and my dad pointing out all of the production company employees who were either with him in the army, at university or distant relatives.  Cheesy


    Man, that brings back some nice memories. My sisters and I used to know the lyrics of the opening credits of all those cartoons by heart.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #17 - February 26, 2012, 03:09 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on February 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
    Cheesy Cheesy ..  i know people in the production industry .. and my dad used to be in the army.. holy smokes sprout!! we could be related by breast  milk..  w00t
    according to my mother we are related to prophet mo himself!!.. lmao!


    but yeah.. i don't think what we speak is "arabic" it's more like  "arablish"
    i know some lebanese people who do not consider themselves arabs..


    Ana soorie,  moo libnani.    Cheesy but we could still be cousins lol.  Our lehjes are very similar and we even have the same french loan words and french pronunciations. My family also has the Muhammad thing but I proved it wrong
    with dna testing.

    Anyway, arabism has the same sort of status in Syria as it does in Lebanon, people are unsure whether they should call themselves Arabs, I personally don't. Not out of spite-I love all my brothers and sisters from the Middle East (and by extension, the earth) but as far as I'm concerned I don't really speak Arabic, identify with Arabic culture too much etc etc-I just consider myself a Levantine or Syrian.

    Anyway,  cool foul beans.
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #18 - February 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
    My family thinks we're descendants of Muhammad too. *Sigh*
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #19 - February 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
    My family thinks we're descendants of Muhammad too. *Sigh*


    why your family members, why blame them??

     On this planet  even to day, billions don't know, to start with  they all  came out Monkey vagina and that goes to Muhammad and all others before Muhammad.. 
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #20 - February 26, 2012, 06:20 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on February 26, 2012, 01:58 PM
    I think it's more likely the lack of exposure. An Algerian will have no trouble understanding an Egyptian, Lebanese or Syrian because we watch their tv shows, movies and listen to their music. We are almost never exposed to Iraqi stuff in the media, and those other nationalities never hear our dialect unless it's spoken in person.


    Sounds kinda like the problem English people have understanding Scottish dialects, particularly west coast ones. Jingz tae hang!

    We Scottish people, on the other hand, understand everyone.  yes
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #21 - February 26, 2012, 07:43 PM
    i love listening to the scots .. damn all the accents are fantastic..

    sprout .. my mom is syrian.. so i get the best of both worlds.. and the worst...
     i get to hear how the syrians messed up lebanon and how they protected it..
     i get to listen to how the syrians are cheap labourers, and how without them lebanon would never have been rebuilt..
     joy!..

    and how i'm really a phoenician and not arab..
    akh ya rassi...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #22 - February 26, 2012, 07:45 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
    My family thinks we're descendants of Muhammad too. *Sigh*

     i hear ya...
     sloshed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #23 - February 26, 2012, 07:55 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on February 26, 2012, 07:43 PM
    i love listening to the scots .. damn all the accents are fantastic..

    sprout .. my mom is syrian.. so i get the best of both worlds.. and the worst...
     i get to hear how the syrians messed up lebanon and how they protected it..
     i get to listen to how the syrians are cheap labourers, and how without them lebanon would never have been rebuilt..
     joy!..

    and how i'm really a phoenician and not arab..
    akh ya rassi...



     Cheesy Cheesy

    The closest people are the ones who argue the most-like sibling rivalry. In 100 years I don't think there will be a seperate Lebanon and Syria, I wonder what silly things we'll fight over then?
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Arabic
     Reply #24 - February 27, 2012, 07:28 AM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
    My family thinks we're descendants of Muhammad too. *Sigh*


    Yeah same. I find it kind of eye roll worthy, but at the same time it would make the blasphemy so much more delicious if it were actually true.
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