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Topic: Was there a time when you genuinely believed that the quran was brilliant?

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Was there a time when you genuinely believed that the quran was brilliant?
OP - March 24, 2012, 07:29 PM

I am limited to English, but I cant see what is so good about it.

Was there a time when you would have tried to convince me that the quran is so good that it must have come from allah?
If we gave muslims some truth serum, would they maintain this stance? or have they just been trained to repeat the rhetoric?
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Reply #1 - March 24, 2012, 07:35 PM

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Was there a time when you genuinely believed that the quran was brilliant?

Not since I started reading it in a language I could understand, no.

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Reply #2 - March 24, 2012, 07:40 PM

Honestly? not really

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Reply #3 - March 24, 2012, 07:49 PM

yes .. i was absolutely positive it was the infalible word of Allah.. and i was willing to fight for it!.. i was a soldier ..
... then i read it..

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Reply #4 - March 24, 2012, 08:23 PM

Quote from: allat on March 24, 2012, 07:35 PM
Not since I started reading it in a language I could understand, no.

That was my view.

Heartfelt and 'sing-song' recitation is something that still moves me. But I remember being deeply confused after finding out that a recitation I listened to that blew me away was an incredibly innane and bizzare prank (the story of yusuf tricking his brothers).

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Reply #5 - March 24, 2012, 08:33 PM

I gave it 'sacred' status in my mind, but I didn't know why, and I never critically analysed it. It's like how many people will vote for political parties over and over again without analysing their choices.

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Reply #6 - March 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

For me, it was more "It's a given that this is brilliant -- let's see how well I can spot the brilliance." (Not very well, it turned out )

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Reply #7 - March 24, 2012, 11:19 PM

Quote from: strangestdude on March 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
That was my view.

Heartfelt and 'sing-song' recitation is something that still moves me. But I remember being deeply confused after finding out that a recitation I listened to that blew me away was an incredibly innane and bizzare prank (the story of yusuf tricking his brothers).

Yeah. That's why there is quite a taboo amongst many traditional muslims against reading quran translations in a language you can understand. Might make you stop and think about how utterly rubbish it is.

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Reply #8 - March 25, 2012, 09:47 AM

Quote from: Sprout on March 24, 2012, 08:33 PM
I gave it 'sacred' status in my mind, but I didn't know why, and I never critically analysed it.

This. The one time I tried to convert a kaffir, I realized I just couldn't do it when he started presenting rational arguments against it. So I just decided not to do it again because God had sealed those people's heart anyway and "They just don't get it, man".

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Reply #9 - March 26, 2012, 07:28 PM

No, although at one time I imagined there might be something in there that would 'wow' me if I actually understood it...but nah, well wowed me in a negatively shocking way lol.

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Reply #10 - March 27, 2012, 05:39 AM

I used to cry at certain passages from time to time when I was a kid. You can condition yourself to feel a given way about almost any text, knowledge or subject matter though. That's why I never give much weight to the emotional response that religion or its main text inspires in believers. I'd much rather try to objectively examine its content. When I was a full-hearted believer it was impossible for me to do this, though and it was only when some doubts had already creeped in that I was compelled to try to make such an unbiased assessment.

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Reply #11 - March 27, 2012, 12:32 PM

I cried almost continually through Spielberg's AI. I have realised now that I have seen the light - Spielberg is her prophet!

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Reply #12 - March 27, 2012, 12:44 PM

Yeah ... I was 11 and understandably impressionable. Although I always did wonder why it was just the same thing over and over and over ...

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Reply #13 - March 27, 2012, 01:22 PM

I was 50!

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

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Reply #14 - March 27, 2012, 01:32 PM

I imdb'ed it and it looks really good. Like a modern Pinocchio.

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