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  • The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     OP - June 15, 2012, 10:35 PM
    Love that dude, very humble guy. It's a shame not all Muslims are like him....  whistling2  Cheesy


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o14fRjDio9U
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #1 - June 15, 2012, 10:43 PM

    Amongst their other videos, Yusuf Chambers and  Abdur Raheem Green. Shame that.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #2 - June 15, 2012, 10:55 PM
    I don't think I'll be watching that.  Cheesy  Smiley
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #3 - June 16, 2012, 12:26 AM
    I couldn't watch the whole thing, but I watched a bit and he seems like SUCH a sweetheart!!! He sounds so nice and gentle. I love people like that. I like him!!! Smiley I'll watch the rest later, hopefully.

    And he's right, the environment is such a huge factor in the spiritual paths people choose.
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #4 - June 16, 2012, 12:29 AM
    Why does he play for England when he's from Senegal?
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #5 - June 16, 2012, 12:34 AM
    This man makes me wish I was Muslim again. He's so nice.

    Does anybody know of such nice, peaceful atheist/agnostic speakers? I've seen (and met) tons of Muslim ones, even Christian ones, but never atheist ones. All the ones I see are so harried and, like, flustered. Kinda frantic. :/
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #6 - June 16, 2012, 12:36 AM
    Quote from: billy on June 15, 2012, 10:43 PM
    Amongst their other videos, Yusuf Chambers and  Abdur Raheem Green. Shame that.





    I heard about the ruckus with Yusuf Chambers and York. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #7 - June 16, 2012, 12:38 AM
    Quote from: chepea on June 16, 2012, 12:34 AM
    This man makes me wish I was Muslim again. He's so nice.

    Does anybody know of such nice, peaceful atheist/agnostic speakers? I've seen (and met) tons of Muslim ones, even Christian ones, but never atheist ones. All the ones I see are so harried and, like, flustered. Kinda frantic. :/


    The Nice Atheist.  Mostly though "political" atheists tend to be reactionary because atheism is a reaction to theism.  There were/ are a ton of atheists who are non descript and go about serving humanity without being in front of a camera or need to proclaim themselves atheists etc. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #8 - June 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
    Quote from: deusvult on June 16, 2012, 12:38 AM
    The Nice Atheist.  Mostly though "political" atheists tend to be reactionary because atheism is a reaction to theism.  There were/ are a ton of atheists who are non descript and go about serving humanity without being in front of a camera or need to proclaim themselves atheists etc. 

    That's true. Obviously you meet a lot of lovely deists, atheists, etc, but New Age atheists seem to be so resentful of everything. I know when I was a theist (or in the random bouts of theism I have nowadays), it really put me off of atheism when I tried to read Hitchens (RIP) and Dawkins and watched them online. They seemed kinda hollow to me. :/ Especially compared to this man and others like him...It just seemed like religion was/is so enriching and calming. :/

    But I guess it's what you get out of your worldview, not which one you have...
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #9 - June 16, 2012, 01:27 AM
    this man makes me want to confront him and make him rethink why he labels himself what he does...

    although i love soccer .. and is probably the only sport i don't mind watching.. right now he is not my favourite person..
    i think i'll send him a really reallly harsh worded letter... with the word hypocrit in it somewhere...


     Angry
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #10 - June 16, 2012, 02:02 AM
    Quote from: chepea on June 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
    That's true. Obviously you meet a lot of lovely deists, atheists, etc, but New Age atheists seem to be so resentful of everything. I know when I was a theist (or in the random bouts of theism I have nowadays), it really put me off of atheism when I tried to read Hitchens (RIP) and Dawkins and watched them online. They seemed kinda hollow to me. :/ Especially compared to this man and others like him...It just seemed like religion was/is so enriching and calming. :/

    But I guess it's what you get out of your worldview, not which one you have...

    The issue with Hitchens is that his youtube debates was 1/100 of his interactions with other people.  He debated and knew Dinesh D'Souza for over 20 years and dinned and drank with him multiple times. Yet when you watch the debates, he chides him, derides his faith, and betrates him for bad ideas.  Which are we supposed to believe? That he was mean and hostile and belligerent towards Dinesh who he drank and ate with for over 20 years?   He was extremely friendly with multiple religious figures and carried on extended conversations with them.  I'm trying to find it, but there was one Church of England priest with which he was intiminate friends with and took long road trips together while Christopher asked him various questions and enjoyed each other's company.  What you see on stage is a sliver of the warmth and generosity that was Chistopher Hitchens.  For sure, he didn't budge an inch when it came to relenting his ideas in the name of courteousy or being a courteous host, but should we really hold that against him?
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #11 - June 16, 2012, 04:30 AM
    And here i thought Demba has reverted to Islam by opening a thread saying "Fuck CEMB" Grin
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #12 - June 16, 2012, 06:58 AM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on June 16, 2012, 01:27 AM
    this man makes me want to confront him and make him rethink why he labels himself what he does...

    although i love soccer .. and is probably the only sport i don't mind watching.. right now he is not my favourite person..
    i think i'll send him a really reallly harsh worded letter... with the word hypocrit in it somewhere...


     Angry


    He doesn't need condescending nobodies telling him the errors of his ways! He's a fine example for the youth to follow and great poster boy for community cohesion - much needed in the UK, with the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment across the country. Just because you left Islam, it doesn't give you the right to call Muslims silly names without any justification; you sound like a bitter person!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #13 - June 16, 2012, 07:01 AM
    ^want some chill pill? Don't worry, I've got plenty  grin12
    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #14 - June 16, 2012, 07:06 AM
    I'm fine, thanks for the concern.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #15 - June 16, 2012, 07:19 AM
    No prob bob, always here to help  bunny
    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #16 - June 16, 2012, 08:39 AM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on June 16, 2012, 01:27 AM
    this man makes me want to confront him and make him rethink why he labels himself what he does...

    although i love soccer .. and is probably the only sport i don't mind watching.. right now he is not my favourite person..
    i think i'll send him a really reallly harsh worded letter... with the word hypocrit in it somewhere...


     Angry


    Why is he a hypocrite, then? We were all once a victim of religion, no?
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #17 - June 16, 2012, 08:41 AM
    Quote from: chepea on June 16, 2012, 12:29 AM
    Why does he play for England when he's from Senegal?


    He dosen't play for England. He plays IN England (for Newcastle  dance ). But he plays for Senegal internationally, of course.

  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #18 - June 16, 2012, 10:07 AM

    Quote from: 247read on June 16, 2012, 06:58 AM
    He doesn't need condescending nobodies telling him the errors of his ways!


    I'd love it if more Muslims applied this advice to dawah merchants - where it is verbal medicine that needs to be injected urgently.

    Especially to the likes of Yusuf Chambers and  Abdur Raheem Green who are promoted by this organisation.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #19 - June 16, 2012, 10:09 AM
    Quote from: deusvult on June 16, 2012, 02:02 AM


    Refutation is interpreted as belligerence and 'meanness' by believers with sensitive skin.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #20 - June 16, 2012, 10:17 AM
    Quote
    Just because you left Islam, it doesn't give you the right to call Muslims silly names without any justification; you sound like a bitter person!


    Absolutely correct. If we're going to attack every Muslim for being a Muslim, then, frankly, you need to clean yourself from the bad side of Islam that is still in you.
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #21 - June 16, 2012, 11:06 AM
    Quote from: chepea on June 16, 2012, 12:34 AM
    This man makes me wish I was Muslim again. He's so nice.

    Does anybody know of such nice, peaceful atheist/agnostic speakers? I've seen (and met) tons of Muslim ones, even Christian ones, but never atheist ones. All the ones I see are so harried and, like, flustered. Kinda frantic. :/


    Muslims,Christians, or Atheists wherever you go, there are always going to be nice or condescending ones amongst them.it has more to do with humans than the religion.
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #22 - June 16, 2012, 04:32 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on June 16, 2012, 02:02 AM
    The issue with Hitchens is that his youtube debates was 1/100 of his interactions with other people.  He debated and knew Dinesh D'Souza for over 20 years and dinned and drank with him multiple times. Yet when you watch the debates, he chides him, derides his faith, and betrates him for bad ideas.  Which are we supposed to believe? That he was mean and hostile and belligerent towards Dinesh who he drank and ate with for over 20 years?   He was extremely friendly with multiple religious figures and carried on extended conversations with them.  I'm trying to find it, but there was one Church of England priest with which he was intiminate friends with and took long road trips together while Christopher asked him various questions and enjoyed each other's company.  What you see on stage is a sliver of the warmth and generosity that was Chistopher Hitchens.  For sure, he didn't budge an inch when it came to relenting his ideas in the name of courteousy or being a courteous host, but should we really hold that against him?

    That's true, thanks. yes

    But STILL.. I mean, this Demba dude (and tbh I don't watch footsyballsy so I have no idea who he is) is so NICE. Reminds me of my old Islamic Studies teacher. She was a sweetheart. A saint, I swear. yes

    But I guess neither of them are debating. I don't like watching religious debates vomit so maybe that's why I don't like Hitchens and Dawkins and stuff.

    Thank you Deusvult!!! Smiley
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #23 - June 16, 2012, 04:33 PM
    Quote from: The Demba on June 16, 2012, 08:41 AM
    He dosen't play for England. He plays IN England (for Newcastle  dance ). But he plays for Senegal internationally, of course.



    Ohhhhh right. Thanks! Smiley
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #24 - June 16, 2012, 04:36 PM
    Quote from: billy on June 16, 2012, 10:09 AM
    Refutation is interpreted as belligerence and 'meanness' by believers with sensitive skin.


    I think you're wrong (no offence). They don't come across as nice or caring, which admittedly isn't their job, but if someone like Dawkins is the posterboy for atheism nowadays, he really should try to not come across as so irksome and resentful.

    It could just be cuz they're British (not Harris though), and I think British people tend to be more cutting overall, humour and everything. That's why it's fun to watch British comedies Cheesy
    Self ban for Ramadan (THAT RHYMES)

    Expect me to come back a Muslim. Cool Tongue j/k we'll see..
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #25 - June 16, 2012, 07:12 PM
    Quote from: 247read on June 16, 2012, 06:58 AM
    He doesn't need condescending nobodies telling him the errors of his ways! He's a fine example for the youth to follow and great poster boy for community cohesion - much needed in the UK, with the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment across the country. Just because you left Islam, it doesn't give you the right to call Muslims silly names without any justification; you sound like a bitter person!


    that's right.. i'm a bitter condescending exmuslim nobody who thinks islam being promoted as pink fluff is hypocritical.. yeah and??..  why are you so mad about it??
    he's a watered down muslim version of kirk cameron.. .. deal with it..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #26 - June 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
    Grin @ Watered down muslim version of Kirk Cameron

    Speaking of that guy i used to like him before turn into Born again.
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #27 - June 16, 2012, 07:53 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on June 16, 2012, 07:12 PM
    that's right.. i'm a bitter condescending exmuslim nobody who thinks islam being promoted as pink fluff is hypocritical.. yeah and??..  why are you so mad about it??
    he's a watered down muslim version of kirk cameron.. .. deal with it..


    It just may happen his drink - like for many millions of Muslims -  isn't diluted, who the hell are you to suggest otherwise?  Islam, like all religions, isn't an exact science; it can be interpreted however the adherent wises to observe it. He isn't advocating any violent and/or oppressive implementation of Islam on others, just recounting his own - genuine and sincere - experience of his faith.  

    I'm not mad, I don't care either way - he's millionaire, adored by millions around the world and has found spiritual/mental peace, so I very much doubt he'll lose sleep over your two pennies' worth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #28 - June 16, 2012, 07:59 PM
    Maybe, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to give it.  Try and argue with the posters' views without stooping to the level of calling people "condescending nobodies."
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: The (real) Demba talks about Islam
     Reply #29 - June 16, 2012, 07:59 PM
    Quote from: Cato on June 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
    Grin @ Watered down muslim version of Kirk Cameron

    Speaking of that guy i used to like him before turn into Born again.


    So your judgement on others is predicated upon their faith? How very sad!

    It seems a lot of members in here have a huge chip on their shoulders!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg
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