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 Topic: Marriage?

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  • Marriage?
     OP - July 31, 2012, 04:14 AM
    Religious people get married in order to not have pre-marital sex. That seems like a good reason to get married if you're religious and you believe that pre-marital sex = bad. But for those who don't follow any religion, are there any reasons to get married that can't be obtained in a long term relationship?
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #1 - July 31, 2012, 04:37 AM
    You should examine the contractual obligations and liabilities of marriage in your jurisdiction, as they can vary. This might help you gain a better understanding of why someone might want to enter into the contract and whether or not there are benefits for you to do so. Good luck.  Afro
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #2 - July 31, 2012, 06:06 AM
    No. Marriage is for pussies.










    (totally kidding btw.)

    But seriously what's the point to it besides maybe, maybe the romantic gesture and the tax benefits?  lipsrsealed
    Rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #3 - July 31, 2012, 06:11 AM
    It's romantic. It's fun. We like it. A simple ritual, symbolic of two people affirming the value of their  relationship in a way that they know is respected and recognised. It's one of those weird idiosyncrasies the human has picked up along its evolution as a social animal. We see it in movies, in music, poetry, fairytales, myths and legends. It's written into language, literature, tradition, heritage. It evokes sentimental feelings and a sense of occasion. The very word conjures up imagery, of lovers eloping, of surprise proposals, a diamond ring, going down on one knee, the wedding dress, proud parents, the first dance, a free bar, a proper knees-up, honeymoon suites, carried over the threshold. Husband and wife. Happily ever after. For better or worse. Till death do us part. And all that jazz.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #4 - July 31, 2012, 06:20 AM
    Quote from: Ishina on July 31, 2012, 06:11 AM
    Till death do us part. And all that jazz.

    All that jizz, surely.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #5 - July 31, 2012, 07:44 AM
    Quote from: David on July 31, 2012, 06:20 AM
    All that jizz, surely.

    I don't know about you, but marriage hasn't generally been a bukkake-fest for me.

    Am I doing it wrong?
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #6 - July 31, 2012, 08:26 AM
    Getting married was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made.  Thank god I didn't have any children!

     
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #7 - July 31, 2012, 08:30 AM
    Quote from: toor on July 31, 2012, 07:44 AM
    I don't know about you, but marriage hasn't generally been a bukkake-fest for me.

    Am I doing it wrong?

    If you are, so am I.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #8 - July 31, 2012, 08:38 AM
    Sometimes getting married is the only way to be together, if you don't live in the same country (visas and residence permits).
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #9 - July 31, 2012, 08:47 AM
    Quote from: Naerys on July 31, 2012, 08:38 AM
    Sometimes getting married is the only way to be together, if you don't live in the same country (visas and residence permits).

    Yep.

    For all the justified outcry about sham marriages, marrying for a visa doesn't invalidate a loving relationship. It allows it to continue.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #10 - July 31, 2012, 04:56 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on July 31, 2012, 06:11 AM
    It's romantic. It's fun. We like it. A simple ritual, symbolic of two people affirming the value of their  relationship in a way that they know is respected and recognised. It's one of those weird idiosyncrasies the human has picked up along its evolution as a social animal. We see it in movies, in music, poetry, fairytales, myths and legends. It's written into language, literature, tradition, heritage. It evokes sentimental feelings and a sense of occasion. The very word conjures up imagery, of lovers eloping, of surprise proposals, a diamond ring, going down on one knee, the wedding dress, proud parents, the first dance, a free bar, a proper knees-up, honeymoon suites, carried over the threshold. Husband and wife. Happily ever after. For better or worse. Till death do us part. And all that jazz.

    so no good reason then
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #11 - July 31, 2012, 05:01 PM
    Inheritance, joint insurance, guardianship and parental rights, tax exeptions and advance medical directives and all that kind of fascinating stuff.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #12 - July 31, 2012, 06:30 PM
    Never getting married.

    Don't get married
    Smash sloots
    ??  ??
    Profit.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #13 - July 31, 2012, 08:05 PM
    Strict adherence to a marital contract in the traditional, bollywood movie, fairytale, happily ever after, till-death-do-us-part sense is unrealistic & doomed to failure at some point as most men are hardwired to copulate with as many females as possible & familiarity can often breed contempt. Women, of course, also have these desires but I think in most cases to a lesser extent.
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #14 - August 01, 2012, 04:49 AM
    Quote from: Ishina on July 31, 2012, 05:01 PM
    Inheritance, joint insurance, guardianship and parental rights, tax exeptions and advance medical directives and all that kind of fascinating stuff.


    I love it when you get all flirty and lovey-dovey!  001_wub
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #15 - August 01, 2012, 04:55 AM
    Quote from: Homo Sapien on July 31, 2012, 08:05 PM
    Strict adherence to a marital contract in the traditional, bollywood movie, fairytale, happily ever after, till-death-do-us-part sense is unrealistic & doomed to failure at some point as most men are hardwired to copulate with as many females as possible & familiarity can often breed contempt. Women, of course, also have these desires but I think in most cases to a lesser extent.


    That's why people like this simply shouldn't enter into a marital contract. Problem solved.  yes
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #16 - August 01, 2012, 10:02 PM
    What if everyone was like that?

    Anyway, I don't see the point behind marriage. Sure, the wedding itself would be fun, but after the wedding, its essentially the same as a long term relationship. Should you spend between $10k-100k just for the wedding event itself?  wacko
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #17 - August 01, 2012, 10:41 PM
    Quote from: asbie on August 01, 2012, 04:55 AM
    That's why people like this simply shouldn't enter into a marital contract. Problem solved.  yes


    That kind of misses my point. I'm saying that most people are like this (deep down)- women too. When they actually get married they are often naive & see it (marriage) through rose tinted glasses & may have all the best intentions in the world at that time.
    However, given enough time & the right opportunity to transgress most flawed human beings will cheat at some point but most likely when they are in their sexual prime.
    Here- check this out: http://www.catalogs.com/info/relationships/percentage-of-married-couples-who-cheat-on-each-ot.html
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #18 - August 01, 2012, 11:05 PM
    Quote from: Homo Sapien on August 01, 2012, 10:41 PM
    check this out: http://www.catalogs.com/info/relationships/percentage-of-married-couples-who-cheat-on-each-ot.html

    Based on those statistics, it seems the main advantage of getting married is you seem to get laid more  cool2
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #19 - August 01, 2012, 11:46 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on July 31, 2012, 06:11 AM
    It's romantic. It's fun. We like it. A simple ritual, symbolic of two people affirming the value of their  relationship in a way that they know is respected and recognised. It's one of those weird idiosyncrasies the human has picked up along its evolution as a social animal. We see it in movies, in music, poetry, fairytales, myths and legends. It's written into language, literature, tradition, heritage. It evokes sentimental feelings and a sense of occasion. The very word conjures up imagery, of lovers eloping, of surprise proposals, a diamond ring, going down on one knee, the wedding dress, proud parents, the first dance, a free bar, a proper knees-up, honeymoon suites, carried over the threshold. Husband and wife. Happily ever after. For better or worse. Till death do us part. And all that jazz.


    Of course, you can have all of this stuff without a civil marriage contract, which in so many cases tends to accompany such a wonderful, joyful, romantic occasion for some reason.  Tongue
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #20 - August 01, 2012, 11:57 PM
    Quote from: Homo Sapien on August 01, 2012, 10:41 PM
    That kind of misses my point. I'm saying that most people are like this (deep down)- women too. When they actually get married they are often naive & see it (marriage) through rose tinted glasses & may have all the best intentions in the world at that time.
    However, given enough time & the right opportunity to transgress most flawed human beings will cheat at some point but most likely when they are in their sexual prime.
    Here- check this out: http://www.catalogs.com/info/relationships/percentage-of-married-couples-who-cheat-on-each-ot.html


    Prevalence of such a condition aside, I'm simply stating that if you feel that you're such an individual you shouldn't enter into a marriage contract. Anyone with knowledge of such a condition in themselves that will prevent them from fulfilling the terms of the contract who willingly enters into it is clearly committing fraud. The negative consequences on the defrauder stemming from their fraud evokes little sympathy from me.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #21 - August 01, 2012, 11:59 PM
    Quote from: shilakijawani on August 01, 2012, 11:05 PM
    Based on those statistics, it seems the main advantage of getting married is you seem to get laid more  cool2


    Hate to burst your bubble, but correlation does not prove causation.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #22 - August 02, 2012, 09:58 PM
    To you guys that think you need to get laid all the time:  I know a man living a little ways away from me who was young and yet he had a lot of land and 'stuff' thanks to inheritance.  Well, he let this skank move in with him and two years later she has a baby and kicks him out of his own large home....She was a predator.  He will end up with about 1/4 or 1/3 of everything he had when he met her.  Laws in the US favor women an incredible amount.  I suggest that you men find the underground book titled: 'The Predatory Female'  written by Rev. Lawrence Shannon.  Might be hard to find, but its out there, and its an eye-opener. It says that it is a Field Gide to dating and the marriage-divorce industry.  Get it.  You need it. Wink
    Here is one spot to get it:  http://petepatriarch.blogspot.com/2006/11/mra-documents-mgtow.html
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #23 - August 02, 2012, 11:09 PM
    Quote from: datrum on August 02, 2012, 09:58 PM
    To you guys that think you need to get laid all the time:  I know a man living a little ways away from me who was young and yet he had a lot of land and 'stuff' thanks to inheritance.  Well, he let this skank move in with him and two years later she has a baby and kicks him out of his own large home....She was a predator.  He will end up with about 1/4 or 1/3 of everything he had when he met her.  Laws in the US favor women an incredible amount.  I suggest that you men find the underground book titled: 'The Predatory Female'  written by Rev. Lawrence Shannon.  Might be hard to find, but its out there, and its an eye-opener. It says that it is a Field Gide to dating and the marriage-divorce industry.  Get it.  You need it. Wink
    Here is one spot to get it:  http://petepatriarch.blogspot.com/2006/11/mra-documents-mgtow.html

    Or you can learn about pre nups and shit before you get married, and not be a complete cock and hate women.
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #24 - August 02, 2012, 11:20 PM
    Quote from: datrum on August 02, 2012, 09:58 PM
    To you guys that think you need to get laid all the time:  I know a man living a little ways away from me who was young and yet he had a lot of land and 'stuff' thanks to inheritance.  Well, he let this skank move in with him and two years later she has a baby and kicks him out of his own large home....She was a predator.  He will end up with about 1/4 or 1/3 of everything he had when he met her.  Laws in the US favor women an incredible amount.  I suggest that you men find the underground book titled: 'The Predatory Female'  written by Rev. Lawrence Shannon.  Might be hard to find, but its out there, and its an eye-opener. It says that it is a Field Gide to dating and the marriage-divorce industry.  Get it.  You need it. Wink
    Here is one spot to get it:  http://petepatriarch.blogspot.com/2006/11/mra-documents-mgtow.html

    Aww, you're adorable.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #25 - August 03, 2012, 07:31 PM

    Quote from: asbie on August 01, 2012, 11:57 PM
    Prevalence of such a condition aside, I'm simply stating...........


    I know exactly what you stated/are stating which is an obvious moral standpoint in relation to marriage that most people (myself included) would agree with. You're clearly a smart girl or lady & appear to have good debating skill BUT I think that post was just a great little trick to detract from the obvious fact that YOU MISSED THE POINT OF MY ORIGINAL POST. Your response to that orginal post was not relevant to my original assertion that non adherance to a marital contract was often inevitable given the flawed nature of human beings. In effect, your response was a STRAW MAN which was a direct result of actually missing my point.
    It's OK to admit it you know. We're all flawed in some way.  yes
    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #26 - August 03, 2012, 07:35 PM
    popcorn
    Quote from: King Tut on December 09, 2012, 06:28 PM
    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #27 - August 03, 2012, 08:02 PM
    Quote from: Homo Sapien on August 03, 2012, 07:31 PM
    I think that post was just a great little trick to detract from the obvious fact that YOU MISSED THE POINT OF MY ORIGINAL POST.

    Your point is kind of redundant, though. 50% is not 'most'.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #28 - August 03, 2012, 09:02 PM
    Entering into any contract which results in the requirement to beg the permission of the state to separate from someone you consider to be harmful to your well being seems like a fundamentally bad idea. Romanticism and poetic symbolism do not outweigh the horrendous experience that many go through trying to escape the clutches of those they wish to escape, not to mention the impact on children involved. The process of divorce can take literally years if one of those involved wants to drag out the process and the impact on those involved is heart breaking.
  • Re: Marriage?
     Reply #29 - August 03, 2012, 09:21 PM
    That's an argument for better divorce laws, not an argument against marriage.

    Irrespective of your view on the ceremonial element, it is useful to have some kind of legal anchor point to establish in fine print where two people stand with regards to ownership of assets, debt, the household they will perhaps build together, to enshrine their responsibilities and rights, protect said assets from requisition, protect children in the event of tragedy, and so on. It would be useful to write up some kind of contract even if the concept of ceremonial marriage had never caught on.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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