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 Topic: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.

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  • Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     OP - August 01, 2012, 09:49 PM

    So I've read that some muslims don't listen to music because of their religion. But what to make of all the music in the middle east? Is it perhaps western music that is evil?
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #1 - August 01, 2012, 11:00 PM

    There was a study done in 2009, they found that only bollywood music is evil. This was their proof:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyC1BrQd6g

    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #2 - August 02, 2012, 01:14 AM

    Hilarious!  grin12
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #3 - August 02, 2012, 04:26 AM

    There are many Muslims who stilll believe that music is not prohibited in their religion. Yusuf al-Qaradawi who is one of the greatest Islamic scholar is among those who say Music is Halal.
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #4 - August 02, 2012, 04:58 PM

    I've read a little more. I gotta agree with those scholars that music is halal. Surely there is and was an arab word for music, if Mo had intended to ban music he would have used that word, not a bunch of obscure euphemism for it.
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #5 - August 02, 2012, 05:48 PM

    Music is not good.  Like many things in Islam, people try to modernize it by ignoring it or reinterpreting things.  It's hard to admit what 'Islam' is.
    If you're going to listen to the sunnah on how to pray, fast, behave and the koran as an eternal book... then you should listen to the whole thing.  If the same hadiths tell you how to pray, then you should listen to the same hadiths about music.

    From the Hadith.
    Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."  (Book #69, Hadith #494v)

    Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id."  (Book #58, Hadith #268)

    These are just Bukhari Hadith.  Music is not okay.  Now it can be tolerated as a respect of other people, but it is clearly not an acceptable thing for a Muslim to do.

    Even the ones who say it is okay, it is mainly to be used within a religious context.  Listening to almost any common music today is not good.




  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #6 - August 02, 2012, 06:12 PM

    So I've read that some muslims don't listen to music because of their religion. But what to make of all the music in the middle east? Is it perhaps western music that is evil?


    The "difference of opinion" amongst Muslims and scholars makes it enough for it to be treated as "halal".

    There would be uproar in Arabic countries if music was treated as haram. The "Arab Spring" would have started decades ago.  Cheesy
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #7 - August 03, 2012, 01:37 PM

    isnt there a hadith that says that if you listen to music you'll have molten led poured in your ears

    that made me literally LOL
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #8 - August 03, 2012, 02:16 PM

    While some Muslims mention a few Quranic verses that supposedly implicitly ban music, there are several hadiths that explicitly do so.

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    Prohibition of music is recorded in many authentic Ahadith.

    Narrated Abu Malik Al-Ashari: The Messenger (peace be upon him) of Allah said, "Some people of my Ummah will drink wine, calling it by other than its real name, merriment will be made for them through the playing of musical instruments and the singing of lady singers. Allah will cleave the earth under them and turn others into monkeys and swines.” [Ibn Ma'jah Vol.5 Hadith No.4020]

    Narrated Abu Amir or Abu Malik Al Ashari that he heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." [Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5590]

    Prophet (peace be upon him) further mentions, “Music grows hypocrisy in the heart just as water causes crops to grow.” (Bayhaqi vol.10 pg.222)

    However, there are some Ahadith which indicate that it is permissible to beat the ‘daff’ i.e. the tambourine (which is open on one side and covered on the other).

    Narrated Urwa on the authority of Aisha “On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine (daff) and the Prophet (peace be upon him) was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them. The Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, 'Leave them, for these days are the days of Eid and the days of Mina.' [Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.2 Hadith No.987]

    Narrated Ar Rabi (the daughter of Muawwidh bin Afra): “After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the tambourines (daff) and reciting elegiac verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, ‘Among us is a Prophet (peace be upon him) who knows what will happen tomorrow.’ On that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Leave this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before." [Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5147]

    Therefore from the above evidence it is concluded that the use of musical instruments in general is forbidden in Islam, with the exception of the 'Daff'. Furthermore, singing without music is permissible on condition that the song does not contain anything un-Islamic in it. For example, it must not be a song that is normally played with music, it must not have a tone of a music song. There must not be any immoral contents in the song. Poetry (She’r) and Nazms (songs) are meant to refresh a person’s Imaan and enhance one’s love for Islam, Allah and His Rasul [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam

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  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #9 - August 03, 2012, 02:19 PM

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    illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk,

    Polyester. There's no better passion killer.
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #10 - August 04, 2012, 03:41 PM

    Music is absolutely forbidden according to most Islamic scholars from the four school of jurispundences. However, science attested to the fact that music can heal boredom, overcome stress and countless benefits. Therefore, recent Islamic scholars like Al-Qardhawi attempted to provide a more liberal views on the issue, sweeten a sugarless cakes to make it edible, increase the flavor of the pudding so that it is palatable.

    Music was never encouraged in Islam, some Quranic verses even condemn poetry, let alone music and musical instruments.

  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #11 - August 05, 2012, 12:56 AM

    So basically all muslims banned music until recently. That is really weird. Yet as I understand it there are ancient musical traditions living on all over the arab world. Islam didn't succeed to wipe out music.
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #12 - August 07, 2012, 04:47 AM

    Islam.
    Is it fun? = HARAM.


    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #13 - August 08, 2012, 03:21 AM

    So basically all muslims banned music until recently. That is really weird. Yet as I understand it there are ancient musical traditions living on all over the arab world. Islam didn't succeed to wipe out music.

    saying ( muslims banned music until recently ) is totally not true. Both Music and Dance have strong and deep root in the sufism school.
    Also, have not you heard of the Andalusian classical music?  have not you heard of Muwashshah ?
    Have not you heard of the first song in islam ( Tala‘ al-Badru ‘Alaynā ) ?


  • Re: Can someone please explain Islams relationship with music.
     Reply #14 - August 08, 2012, 09:50 AM

    So Sufis are Muslims whenever they're useful in defending Islam?
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