Father who killed 5 year old may get off?

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Father who killed 5 year old may get off?
OP - November 14, 2012, 11:47 PM

Source: http://elbadil.com/arabic-press/2012/11/12/70344

The preacher Faihan Ghamdi killed his child because of his doubt/suspicion over her behaviour - and a jurisprudential principle could save him from punishment!

Dr. Suhaila Zain al-Abidin, a member of the Human Rights Association in Saudi Arabia, announced that Faihan Ghamdi The preacher killed his daughter because he doubted/suspected her behaviour. She wondered how can a person suspect the behaviour of a child of five years, noting that the child's virginity had been established. Indeed she will not be silent over this heinous crime. And she expressed her fear that the murderer will escape punishment on the grounds that he is suffering from a psychological condition or that the applicable Fiqh principle be applied to him, which is related in "Al-Mughni" by Ibn Qudamah:

لا يقتل إن قتل ولده, ولكن تقتل الأم بقتلها ولدها

"He (the father) is not to be killed if he kills his child, but the mother is to be killed if she kills her child."

Dr. Suhaila demanded, via the Saudi newspaper "Sabq", that the supreme court of justice and shari'ah agencies to reconsider their teaching methods after rectifying the understandings of Quranic verses regarding women and the laws and family & marriage relations, and not to rely on the jurisprudence of Fuqaha who rely on weak hadiths and irregular and Mursal (broken chain hadiths).

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Reply #1 - November 14, 2012, 11:49 PM

This is seriously fucked up.

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Reply #2 - November 15, 2012, 04:13 AM

Suspicion of what behavior? WTF did he think a 5 year old was doing? I hope he gets fuckin ripped apart in prison!

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Reply #3 - November 15, 2012, 05:29 AM

I think it's really sad when religion blinds people's basic understanding of what is just obviously wrong.
Huh!? Is killing a 5 year old punishable, shrug I don't know know we better check the hadiths.
Seriously fuck religion.

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Reply #4 - November 15, 2012, 07:55 AM

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"He (the father) is not to be killed if he kills his child, but the mother is to be killed if she kills her child."

What kind of fucked up rule is that?! And what could you possibly suspect a 5 year old to be doing?!
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Reply #5 - November 15, 2012, 08:01 AM

Stealing cookies?

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Reply #6 - November 15, 2012, 08:27 AM

And even from the person protesting against this, we get this little gem...

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She wondered how can a person suspect the behaviour of a child of five years, noting that the child's virginity had been established.

So if the child's virginity hadn't been established, that would have been a reason to "suspect" the child? A five year old girl who is not a virgin is a reason to suspect the adults around her, in any sane world.

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Reply #7 - November 15, 2012, 08:30 AM

Fucked up world.

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Reply #8 - November 15, 2012, 08:32 AM

Well yeah, that too. They seem to be competing for the title of "Most Fucked Up".

Even if, by some weird chance, the kid had gone out looking for sex it would obviously be a case for a good child psychologist, not a case for killing the kid. Like you said, it'd indicate problems with the adults around her.

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Reply #9 - November 15, 2012, 11:31 AM

Quote from: Sakura02 on November 15, 2012, 05:29 AM
I think it's really sad when religion blinds people's basic understanding of what is just obviously wrong.
Huh!? Is killing a 5 year old punishable, shrug I don't know know we better check the hadiths.
Seriously fuck religion.

This. Fuck religion indeed; I doubt there's anything that can so gravely fuck up people's morals. How can anyone doubt a five year old's innocence? They seriously had to "establish" she was a virgin. Sick, sick, sick.
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Reply #10 - November 16, 2012, 10:21 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on November 15, 2012, 08:27 AM
And even from the person protesting against this, we get this little gem...

So if the child's virginity hadn't been established, that would have been a reason to "suspect" the child? A five year old girl who is not a virgin is a reason to suspect the adults around her, in any sane world.

Hymens can of course be ruptured in other ways, including vigorous physical exercise, but knowing these fuckers they probably don't even let girls run so we could safely rule that out.

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Reply #11 - November 16, 2012, 11:17 AM

that is the Five-year-old Lamaa died in hospital after being tortured by her father. and

and this is the prominent preacher..,preacher?? father?? . or a freak in human form...??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlxdNFn7fU

I don't know how any human being could do that., apparently he was DRUG ADDICT AND A PROMINENT PREACHER in ARABIA on TV..

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