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  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     OP - January 04, 2013, 10:51 PM

    Hi people  Smiley

    So, I've been here all day looking at topics n stuff..everyone seems to be so ''normal'', funny, interesting etc.

    I was wondering..what were you like before you left Islam? Did you supress your personality at all to fit in with being Muslim?

    (Incase what I asked doesn't make sense - alot of Muslims I know are really serious, dunno how to joke etc.)
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #1 - January 04, 2013, 11:21 PM

    That's an interesting question. Never thought about it before. Hard remembering, I was just full of fear and very judgemental of others. Saying that I was only about 15 when at my most religious so the changes in me may not be totally religion related.

    Kinda depressing thinking about how I was back then!

    What about yourself?
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #2 - January 04, 2013, 11:32 PM

    That's an interesting question. Never thought about it before. Hard remembering, I was just full of fear and very judgemental of others. Saying that I was only about 15 when at my most religious so the changes in me may not be totally religion related.

    Kinda depressing thinking about how I was back then!

    What about yourself?


    Concerned that what I did wasn't good enough and defensive when my family made fun of Islam. Worried about dying and going to hell - still think about that. Those are the main ones.
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #3 - January 05, 2013, 12:10 AM

    Good question, good thread.

    It was a long time ago for me too, but I remember being a bit paranoid/neurotic about lots of little things. All those rules in Islam, many of them completely ridiculous and only there to keep your brain so occupied and in fear that you don't get a chance to actually THINK about why they are there and who benefits from Muslims living under this perpetual psychological bureaucracy.

    I was, for a bit of time, defensive about Islam too. Thought it was my duty to defend Islam (or at least, the version I was taught) from everyone else, including other Muslims, and of course, all those sinful non-Muslims, who just can't "get it" because allah led them astray (quite an arrogant self-satisfying circular reasoning: allah gave them free-will but then led them astray and they'll burn in hell and we should pity them but also they're bad people who deserve hell yadda yadda yadda).

    And I also spent time acting like my religion made me a better person than others. In other words, the kind of cultural and religious supremacism that is so crystal clear to me now was something I was taught to believe and quite entrenched in for a while.

    I am so thankful I escaped all of this and the rest of Islam's baggage.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #4 - January 05, 2013, 12:44 AM

    ^i have to echo all what allat has said..
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #5 - January 05, 2013, 03:19 AM

    umm personality wise I was pretty much the same person.   

    The new me is the old me subtract the bigotry.  And the new me is a more educated about the world in general.

    And I have also gotten more self confidence.

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #6 - January 05, 2013, 07:36 AM

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    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #7 - January 05, 2013, 09:19 AM

    Good question, good thread.


    Agreed. This a a great topic.

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    It was a long time ago for me too, but I remember being a bit paranoid/neurotic about lots of little things. All those rules in Islam, many of them completely ridiculous and only there to keep your brain so occupied and in fear that you don't get a chance to actually THINK about why they are there and who benefits from Muslims living under this perpetual psychological bureaucracy.


    Actually, the rules and the fiqh didn't bother me so much. It's just something I did reflexively, given that it was a part of my worldview. My fixation was on the very existence of God. If he didn't exist, then the rest of the worldview would come crashing down.

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    I was, for a bit of time, defensive about Islam too. Thought it was my duty to defend Islam (or at least, the version I was taught) from everyone else, including other Muslims, and of course, all those sinful non-Muslims, who just can't "get it" because allah led them astray (quite an arrogant self-satisfying circular reasoning: allah gave them free-will but then led them astray and they'll burn in hell and we should pity them but also they're bad people who deserve hell yadda yadda yadda).


    LOL! I went through all that except the main target of my dawah was my uncle. I had this odd notion that if I managed to convince him that Allah existed, then my own doubts would get sorted. My family were happy that I was trying to bring my uncle back into the fold. Subconsciously, I was using my uncle as a proxy to shield my own internal struggle. I admitted this to him when I stopped "trying" to believe in God.

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    And I also spent time acting like my religion made me a better person than others. In other words, the kind of cultural and religious supremacism that is so crystal clear to me now was something I was taught to believe and quite entrenched in for a while.


    I didn't feel that I was better than anyone because I followed Islam. I just felt that I was blessed that I had the gift of Iman which I wish others would also accept. Looking back, I also feel that Islam masked some of my characteristics. Some negative and some positive. After leaving Islam I became more bad-tempered, impatient and irritable. On the flip side though, I stopped looking down on people who were at odds with my former worldview. Lapsed Muslims who drank, gambled and visited prostitutes were simply people with tendencies for these things, rather than sinners who were mocking Islam. I dropped my guard against the LGBT community and saw them as diverse humans. There is plenty I could add to the list.

    As far as the negatives were concerned, they were a reaction to my apostasy. I felt as though I'd failed my "inner jihad". After visiting the doctor, I discovered that I'd been suffering from depression for a long time. Thankfully, the medication has helped in a huge way.

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    I am so thankful I escaped all of this and the rest of Islam's baggage.


    Initially no. I was angry and sick. I felt that I had lost out. I felt abandoned and had lost friends. Now however I'm at peace with it. I'm couldn't care less whether people believed or not. If friends broke off then fine. There are more sincere and welcoming people out there who didn't care whether or not I believed in a 1400 year old myth.
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #8 - January 05, 2013, 09:09 PM

    When I was believer, I use to suffer a lot of anxiety, I use to worry alot about Hell, being right, got easily spooked by stuff I did not initially understand.
    In my early teen years I was very meek, this coincided with my most devout years. At this time I was scared to basically go against the grain. Gradually as I began to study more about Islam and challenge ideas, I became more confident.

    Looking back now most of my worries/problems were tied to religion as a whole, once I let go life became simple. I'd say I'm alot more chilled out and more adventurous, I'm more willing to try new things and explore. I'm alot more accepting of others now, before I used to have a narcissistic approach to life. Having the belief that I was God's special person, as he had chosen to bless me with the truth, gave me a very ugly view of people who disagreed. I guess i'm alot more humble and thankful for what I have.

    Knowing my destiny is in my own hands is really liberating.
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #9 - January 06, 2013, 08:47 PM

    I was a non practising Muslim since childhood till secondary school after which I became agnostic, so I'd say there wasn't a change in behaviour.

    As a side note, I had pretty cool friends, of the muslims 3/4 of the class, I was the only one in my class that didn't fast during Ramadan. I don't recall there ever being an issue with the lack of faith I had, if anything a difference in culture (bangladeshi/pakistani) separated us (who you hang around) more than religious beliefs.
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #10 - January 13, 2013, 09:39 PM

    When I was young I used to be like a 4x for sure prayer reader. I would wake up to read Isha even if I fell asleep. Even wore the scarf. Luckily I got less religious as I grew up and stopped the scarf [it was actually an on/off thing], and prayed occasionally - like once every 1-2 months, but went religious in Ramadan. The only haram food I ate was the subway turkey sandwich, and the 3 cheese pizza pops.  I haven't read the Quran in many months now - even though I denounced Islam like 1-2 months ago. I would always argue with the people who spoke against Islam saying how good it was [the stuff my parent's told me, I relayed and used as points in my arguments].
    I always felt as if the whole world was unfair to Muslim. I'm not a bad person just because i'm muslim. Why do I have the burden of those muslim fanatics, when I'm not a fanatic. To bad you get an even worse treatment if you are an apostate in a Muslim family.
  • What were you like before you left Islam?
     Reply #11 - January 15, 2013, 08:35 PM

    Well let's see, initially during my early teenage years I was very religious and learned a lot about Islam. I prayed 5 times a day and hung out with only my Muslim friends. Something my non-Muslim mother really hated and frequently pointed out, which I just ignored. Eventually as I grew up and the hormones had its effect I was in fear. I was fearful about everything, my sexual urges, masturbation and even befriending too many girls.

    After that I grew the hell up and the guilt of everything "Haraam" that I was doing went away. When I started drinking and smoking weed I realized I was pretty much an ex-muslim already, regarding the fact that I wasn't scared anymore and also I didn't care. I mean I figured a just god wouldn't send me to hell for having fun right? I do my share of community service and good deeds.

    It's pretty crazy whenever someone I know well points out my transition. I literally went from Prophet to Infidel in a period of 10 years.
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