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  • Hey everyone!
     OP - January 15, 2013, 06:46 AM
    I found out about this website from r/exmuslim which is equally another amazing reddit community that I frequently visit everyday. I know you guys will be another amazingly friendly community as well since hey, I've figured exmuslims being exmuslims are a pretty laid back, non-judgemental bunch! Smiley

    I still haven't come to terms with being an exmuslim because there is a lot of guilt and doubt that I need to get over. Right now when my friends ask me what I am I say I'm a "liberal muslim". Of course I can't tell them what I really am due to fear of persecution. But I openly drink and do haraam things that Muslims generally won't do in public mainly because I'm from a mixed family and I neither look muslim nor does the name given to me sound muslim in any way. Thank goodness for that right? It sucks though that during my early teenage years I was extremely religious and would advise others in my family on what they were doing. I became known as the hajji in family for praying 5 times a day too. After a while when questions started popping up I became less religious and my family noticed and asked me why I had changed, luckily for me after a few days they just dropped the topic. I'm glad my family is a liberal one because in case I ever come out to them, they won't kill.

    I don't really have anyone to speak to about what I'm going through which is why I'm so glad I've found online communities like r/exmuslim and now this. I mean I think my cousin is an atheist but I'd rather not tell her right now, until I'm 100% sure. I'd rather not accidentally out her as well if I text her and someone reads it. I hardly ever meet her and I really want to tell her I'm going through what she's going through as well.

    So yup, this is me, JustGotSmashed, a whole mess of emotions right now and I have been for quite some time. Smiley
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #1 - January 15, 2013, 07:01 AM
    Welcome!  Smiley

    With time I find that the guilt vanishes, once I got rid of any doubts about there being a hell I stopped feeling that way.

    It's great that you're family aren't very religious, they tend to easier to handle Tongue
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #2 - January 15, 2013, 01:39 PM
    What Rora said. With time you'll get over your break up with Allah grin12
    Yup a lot of us find comfort in and a sanctuary out of online exmuslim communities that we usually don't have in real life. Thank FSM for the internet right? And you're wise not to tell your cousin yet. It'd be great to share your experiences with someone who understands in the real world but you don't want to put yourself in a vulnerable position if you find out that she's really only an ultra liberal muslim and not an exmuslim.

    Oh and welcome, have a parrot  parrot and a bunny too cz you're speshul bunny
    Started from the bottom, now I'm here
    Started from the bottom, now my whole extended family's here

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  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #3 - January 15, 2013, 01:42 PM
    Hi and welcome Just Got Smashed.  I am very new to this forum as well.  I know I had to lay low for a while to sort things out.  Welcome to the Twilight Zone, the Barzakh, Purgatory, etc, LOL.  You will find that the emotions AND  the guilt AND the shame will start to fade.  Especially when waking up to more disturbing headlines discussing another act of Muslim idiocy....or another Malala story, etc.

    It just gets easier, but it happens bit by bit, very organically.  Just make sure to try and keep a light heart, trust your gut and fill your time with doing the things that TRULY interest you.  This is your second chance to live life for yourself!  Have at it!  

    Cheers!

    Tabula Rasa
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #4 - January 15, 2013, 02:41 PM
     parrot

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #5 - January 15, 2013, 03:12 PM
    Welcome!

    I look forward to reading more of your posts  Smiley
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #6 - January 15, 2013, 03:19 PM
    I must say, I think the parrot is an ironic symbol to use as a gift for newcomers.....seeing as though we have all spent time being "parrots" when we were Muslims.   Wink
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #7 - January 15, 2013, 03:30 PM
    Good one^  Tongue
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #8 - January 15, 2013, 04:23 PM
    A parrot is found on the shoulder of Long John Silver - a pirate.  The decline in the number of pirates is a direct cause of global warming OK?  Bless her holy noodliness!

    http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

    Quote
    I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of Intelligent Design should be taught along with the theory of Evolution. I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them. I am concerned, however, that students will only hear one theory of Intelligent Design.

    Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

    It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith.

    Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence.

    ...

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #9 - January 15, 2013, 05:37 PM
    It is reassuring to meet another committed follower of his holy noodliness, the FSM. As a sign of my devotion to my pastafarian faith, I keep a pirate hat perched upon my office entrance. I have also changed my last name from Abdul-Rahman to Abdul-Ramen. I look forward to the day when the Flying Spaghetti Monster, subhanahu wa ta'ala, touches everyone with the light of his noodly appendage .
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #10 - January 15, 2013, 05:46 PM
    ^ Your conversion isn't complete until you adopt our wardrobe idiosyncrasy; the pasta strainer.
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  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #11 - January 15, 2013, 06:03 PM
    Quote from: Jema on January 15, 2013, 05:46 PM
    ^ Your conversion isn't complete until you adopt our wardrobe idiosyncrasy; the pasta strainer.


    Brother, Pasta be upon you

    The pasta strainer is an extremely sacred symbol of faith and should not be used in vein. As a fundamentalist pastafarian, I believe that the strainer should only be used during the sacred festivals of Holiday, International Talk Like a Pirate Day, and in very special circumstances, in driver license photos (only in pastafarian -majority countries).  To use it in day to day activities is, I believe, a blatant sign of disrespect.

    Since we are on the subject, I was wondering if anyone has come across any sacred literature regarding the FSM’s position on worshiping other, foreign gods. I know that Yahweh and Allah used to get really pissed off at the idea, but I just can’t imagine his holy noodliness being so petty and jealous. I ask because while I have rejected the typical Abrahamic god, I do sometimes find myself seduced by the alluring temptation to worship invisible green elephants. I hope the FSM will understand that much like the Isrealites before us, the temptation presented by foreign gods is far too much for a mere mortal to withstand.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #12 - January 15, 2013, 06:09 PM
    My God will never be a carbohydrate, sorry....pasta has fucked up my blood sugar beyond repair.  Now gimme me a Meat Protein Deity and we can talk.......
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #13 - January 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
    Apologies for thread stealing, he lied!

    Isn't it her holy noodliness?

    And anyone can become a minister of the fsm!

    http://www.venganza.org/ordination/


    I must confess that I think there are three gods - the fsm, the ipu and the dark goddess of chocolate!

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    Chocolate

    On the seventh day of the seventh month of the seventh year about seven in the cool of the evening, the seven kings woodcraft folk were seated around a fire in the forest of Epping, having gathered the wood by hand (and added a few pallets brought in a nomadic caravan).

     

     

    We had a dream of the promised land, a strange but well known goddess spoke to us, her works are renowned throughout the world from when her medicinal powers were found in the central americas and blended by her priests and priestesses into wondrous concoctions.

     

    She did not reveal her name to us but her message was clear – we are to go into all the world and worship her. Her gospel is of peace and love.

     

    She has already ordained festivities at auspicious times of the year and her bounty is freely available.

     

    But she is not worshipped, hymned, adored, communed with. Where is the Liturgy?

     

    Her holy texts have not been recognised, despite her prophetesses and prophets like Nigella Lawson, Green and Blacks, Dahl, Cadbury, and Joanna Harris.

     

    Where are the pilgrimages, the retreats, the holy orders?

     

    It is time the whole world found the new religion.

     

    We are to gather together at regular times and places to commune with her.

     

    Ecuador Dark be thy name….

     

     

    The promised land is near us!

     

     July 9, 2007, 12:19 AM   

    cajela

     

    Amen! Preach it, brother! Saints Lindt and Cluizel be praised!

     

    amaradulcis_nyx

     

    I myself am a devoted follower of these prophets: Valrhona, Valor, Lindt & Sprüngli, and Scharffen Berger.

     


    http://clivedurdle.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/chocolate/
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #14 - January 15, 2013, 06:29 PM
    Quote from: tabularasa on January 15, 2013, 06:09 PM
    My God will never be a carbohydrate, sorry....pasta has fucked up my blood sugar beyond repair.  Now gimme me a Meat Protein Deity and we can talk.......


    Invisible Green Elephants are full of protein! Just saying!

    PS, Welcome all to the forum. You’r gonna love it here!

    @MOI The FSM is a holy trinity of Him, Her, and It. The Her part gave birth to the Him part, only to consume his noodly body in an act of redemption for the world. The It part is what inspires us all to eat carbohydrates drenched in sauce to achieve salvation. (The pasta is the body, the sauce is the blood.)
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #15 - January 15, 2013, 06:34 PM
    Hey thanks everyone, it feels great to feel so welcome!  Smiley

     parrot
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #16 - January 15, 2013, 06:39 PM
    thanks happymurtad.  i feel rrrrrrrrrright at home here.  ahhh breathing room, love it! 
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #17 - January 16, 2013, 12:55 AM
    Quote from: happymurtad on January 15, 2013, 06:03 PM
    Brother, Pasta be upon you

    Brother, I am not a man  Tongue

    Quote from: happymurtad on January 15, 2013, 06:03 PM
    Since we are on the subject, I was wondering if anyone has come across any sacred literature regarding the FSM’s position on worshiping other, foreign gods.

    Have you checked the back of your spaghetti box?

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    Started from the bottom, now my whole extended family's here

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  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #18 - January 16, 2013, 01:02 AM
    You are thinking of the word "brother" in the classical sense. In the pastafarian usage of the word, which I just made up, "brother" means "revered enlightened one who I knew was really a female but goofed up and called brother." You have to understand the difference here.   whistling2
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #19 - January 16, 2013, 02:24 AM
    It's short form for "brother who's another mother" Smiley

    Also, welcome to the forum Smashed. Have my first parrot.  parrot

    happymurtad will do a great job making you realize how bad Islam is. I dunno for sure though, since I'm just some creepy white guy who's never been a muslim. wacko
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #20 - January 17, 2013, 10:43 AM
    Quote from: JustGotSmashed on January 15, 2013, 06:46 AM
    I still haven't come to terms with being an exmuslim because there is a lot of guilt and doubt that I need to get over.


    Welcome my former Brother in Islam, and now my beloved brother in Kufr Akbar!

    When you feel that conditioned "guilt" start kicking in, just do as I do: Think about all the filth and outright absurdities that Islam permits (i.e. child-marriage, wife-beating, the sexual enslavement of non-Muslim girls, Muhammad's geocentric world, his flying to heaven on a "winged" donkey, and on and on...) And then ask yourself: If a God exists at all, would he permit such vile and indecent abuses of us, as humanbeings? Would he allow women and children to be abused in such a way? ... And would he make such gross errors as to declare that the sun sets beneath his "throne", whilst referring to the earth as a rolled out carpet (clearly implying that it is FLAT!)?

    No... no Just and Knowledgable "God" would allow such things: Islam is as false as all the other ridiculous "organised" religions out there. Forget it, and start moving on with your life... and make it as wonderful as you possibly can, without the shackles of a 7th century "way of life" holding you back Smiley
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #21 - January 17, 2013, 11:02 AM
    Welcome to the forums JustGotSmashed parrot bunny Contrary to the impression some members may have given here we don't all worship pasta.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #22 - January 17, 2013, 01:32 PM
    Quote
    Contrary to the impression some members may have given here we don't worship pasta.


    Blasphemy! Old geezer
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #23 - January 17, 2013, 01:56 PM
    hi and welcome  Smiley
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #24 - January 17, 2013, 03:25 PM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 17, 2013, 11:02 AM
    Welcome to the forums JustGotSmashed parrot bunny Contrary to the impression some members may have given here we don't all worship pasta.


    Duh Al-Alethia! Some of us worship invisible green elephants and chocolate too! Gosh, get with the program you liberal, Neo a-pasta-ist.
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #25 - January 17, 2013, 05:40 PM
    Invisible pink unicorns ftw. I have zero tolerance for other "faiths" nyanya
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #26 - January 18, 2013, 01:53 AM
    My nipples give me all the holy guidance I need...
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #27 - January 18, 2013, 01:58 AM
    ^You with the nipples again!
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #28 - January 18, 2013, 02:00 AM
    ^ You with the lesser nipples...
  • Hey everyone!
     Reply #29 - January 18, 2013, 02:03 AM
    *Places hands over her nipples*. Thanks a lot, now I'm self-conscious about my nipples Cry
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