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 Topic: UnMosqued, The Movie.

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  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #30 - March 01, 2013, 04:38 PM

    lol HM

    bet no one told that brother that dogs were HARAAM.

    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #31 - March 01, 2013, 04:40 PM

    ^Noo...It was HIS! He had packed himself a snack...
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #32 - March 01, 2013, 04:51 PM

    uhhhh.... Huh?

    *speechless*

    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #33 - March 06, 2013, 04:04 AM

    Interesting topic!

    I think the fact that Islam is essentially irrelevant to western living is a huge part of the decline of the mosque.

     Gone are the days when people can rally behind a particular movement and find the energy and zeal that the mosque once provided. After 9/11, mosques are reluctant to become rallying zones for various international causes like Palestine and Kashmir and Kosovo of the 90s.

    The Salafis have essentially self-destructed themselves into extinction by finding fault with virtually anything and everything that anyone does or tries to do in a mosque. They have become so engulfed in their nit-picking and ostracizing that they have made themselves irrelevant.

     From the African American experience, the zeal of the civil rights era has virtually died out as the younger generation does not feel the need to distance itself from American culture.

    So ultimately, I think that the youth are a main reason that the mosque is in decline. The fact that the 5 daily prayers are boring and in all Arabic means that they do very little to inspire the next generation. The Muslim youth are dating, listening to music, and befriending the kuffar. Nothing but total isolation—an unattractive choice for all involved—can change that. Khutbahs of an abstract nature do not address the challenges that real Muslim kids face on a daily basis.  Trying to comb through and sanitize the outdated teachings of the qur’an and the hadith to make them sound more appealing to the Muslim youth is a problem that Imams across the country are facing. Those who are successful must be willing to engage in a deliberate art of deception and sugar coating that belies what Islam has taught for ages. They then face criticism from the conservative crew who know better and who always have dogma on their side.

    The unit of the family is another problem Islam faces. As women are marginalized and the youth are not engaged, the mosque finds itself left to be an institution of old men who are out of touch with western living. Until Islam address the needs of all elements of the Muslim family, its importance will continue to decline.



    The Friday khutbahs back when I was in highschool were mostly about avoiding dating, saying merry christmas and acting like the kuffar. They are fighting a lost cause.

    Hopefully the new generation of muslims will be more moderate than their parents making it easier for us apostates to come out. 

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #34 - March 06, 2013, 01:31 PM

    Al-Alethia that sounds like Minaret... thank god i only spent a small amount of time there. That or Al-Taqwa... my atheist friend has some good stories from there too  dance dance  Small world  Cheesy
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #35 - March 06, 2013, 07:35 PM

    Oh interesting dicussion, question do people get thrown out of mosques or Muslim communities for being a 'bad' influence. Like let's say being to western or calling out imams on their bullshit?

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #36 - March 06, 2013, 08:03 PM

    ^^^ In the UK you will get much worse than thrown out for going against Imams. I have witnessed physical fights over which Imam has the right to lead prayers in the mosque and other trivial matters. Last year an Imam was beaten to a pulp for not agreeing with a wahabbi contingent who turned up proselytizing their brand outside his mosque.
    Imagine telling them that their religion is a fad to their faces.

    In america the standard of assimilation is greater than that in the UK.
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #37 - March 06, 2013, 08:06 PM

    I also remember the case of Usama hasan got death threats for even mentioning evolution in his own mosque. Muslims here are a long way off of toning down their commitment to Islam.
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #38 - March 07, 2013, 05:52 AM

    Shocked
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #39 - March 07, 2013, 10:38 AM

    He is around 22-24 I think. Well he was a bit religious... but with the power of Iblis and my anti-Islamic charisma i worked my magic on him  Cheesy I'm dating a girl from there now and my ex is from there too- class of 2004/2005  grin12
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #40 - March 07, 2013, 10:41 AM

    I may be incriminating myself a bit here  grin12
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #41 - March 07, 2013, 12:09 PM

    Do you have a fetish for ex-Muslimahs or what? Cheesy 
  • UnMosqued, The Movie.
     Reply #42 - March 07, 2013, 02:51 PM

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    What was the driving factor (if any) that pushed all of you away from the Masjid?  Anyone care to start?  As a women, I know for me it was the utter frustration at he LACK of accommodations made to women and children.  Nothing made me more pissed than watching mothers with infant carriers and strollers having to fumble their way up a huge flight of stairs in order to get to the prayer space.  Having to watch elderly women do the same thing was down right infuriating.  And once they actually MADE it there, it was usually hot and overcrowded and positioned in a way where you had no chance to see the minbar and had to rely on the crappy audio system to work well enough to hear anything.  


    Umm, there would seem to be serious legal issues about disability discrimination as well as gender discrimination.  Maybe some legal action to close down mosques as discriminatory?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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