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OP - February 15, 2013, 10:07 AM

Hi everyone,

I am a longtime lurker of this forum and I rarely post. I have been wanting to introduce myself for a long time but I keep putting it off. I am a believing Hindu from India and I used to be a lurker on FFI before this forum was started.

Before 2008 I dint have a job, my education was going nowhere and I found it convenient to blame Muslims for all the problems facing India. Then in 2008 I got a job and was sent to UAE for training. FFI is banned there so I logged on to this website. At the same time one of my mentors in my new job was a believing Muslim, and he was an absolute gentleman. A gentle-man and a very good human being.

So I guess, because I gained the ability to earn for myself, I had new self confidence and because of this forum and my ex-mentor I no longer hate Muslims. Am no longer angry at them. I realise that both Hindus and Muslims must keep moving on.

This forum had been a major influence in my life. Things that we are supposed to learn in school, I have learnt here. Things like the importance of freedom of speech, Equality of Women, freedom to believe or disbelieve, I have learnt here.

So I thank all the members of this forum and I wish you all the best for the future.

It is better to remain quiet and have people think that you are an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Reply #1 - February 15, 2013, 10:12 AM

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

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Reply #2 - February 15, 2013, 10:20 AM

Thanks... My first Rabbit and Parrot.

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Reply #3 - February 15, 2013, 10:26 AM

Welcome idolator. Glad to see you posting here

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Reply #4 - February 15, 2013, 11:07 AM

Thanks Allat.
I used to be furious whenever i would read stories of Hindu girls marrying Muslim men. Then I realised that the women are old enough to vole, old enough to drive and definitely old enough to marry whoever they choose. And it was this forum that helped me realise that.

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Reply #5 - February 15, 2013, 01:29 PM

I was never a 'hating' type of person. I thought that I learned that from Islam. But, really, if you want to be peaceful then you can find that in Islam, and if you want to be hateful then it's there too. I visited the FFI site and did not like it one bit. They came across as hateful and right-winged as the jihadi types that they were always presenting as real Muslims. I wasn't convinced by that site.

It's only after I came to this site and after reading blogs by ex-muslims, I saw that there was some veracity to the claims of Islam being something other than what it was claiming to be.

Oh and welcome.
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Reply #6 - February 15, 2013, 01:32 PM

This forum came into existence partly in reaction to FFI.

A truly secular space was needed for ex-Muslims to have a safe platform to express themselves untainted by far-right bigotry and the 'Nuke Mecca' crowd, as well as the taboos and prejudices towards apostates from many Muslims.

That remains the guiding ethic of this forums reason to exist.

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Reply #7 - February 15, 2013, 01:41 PM

^ Yeh, I never understood those 'Nuke Mecca' types. Their argument was, "Those Muslims are evil and they will kill countless numbers by any means and opportunity ....... let us kill them in their millions." Sick twisted people.
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Reply #8 - February 15, 2013, 01:44 PM

Quote from: billy on February 15, 2013, 01:32 PM
This forum came into existence partly in reaction to FFI.

A truly secular space was needed for ex-Muslims to have a safe platform to express themselves untainted by far-right bigotry and the 'Nuke Mecca' crowd, as well as the taboos and prejudices towards apostates from many Muslims.

That remains the guiding ethic of this forums reason to exist.

And I absolutely appreciate that. It is nice to be involved with normal, reasonable, intelligent, people who simply no longer believe that Islam is true. The hatred and bigotry that is so prevalent on some other websites is not only unnecessary, it is counter-productive and dangerous.
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Reply #9 - February 15, 2013, 02:00 PM

^Ditto!

Welcome idolator!

I never really understood the whole Muslims vs India thing, but I noticed a few Pakistanis hate being mistaken for Indian..oops! Umm I guess it's like the Sunni Shia thing?
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Reply #10 - February 15, 2013, 02:13 PM

Its more of a religion thing actually. We Hindus are polytheistic idolators and Muslims are the exact opposites. And Pakistan as a country was founded on the basis of being a homeland for the subcontinental Muslims. And though India has a huge population of Muslims, many Pakistanis still view India as being a Hindu country so they hate being associated with Indians.

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Reply #11 - February 15, 2013, 03:47 PM

What's this FFI that people are talking about?

Since I grew up in a city with 39085398453948 brown immigrants from India and Pakistan, I somewhat picked up the ability to know where people are from. I can tell that people with Sikh names (prefixs like har, raj, gur, av, man with suffixes like deep, neet, vir, etc.) are usually form India and are Sikh, while the others are usually Muslim from Pakistan. This is of course a problem once any Indian Muslims come along (although I've never met any), or whenever a Hindu comes along, since while Hindu names are kind of different from Pakistani names, it can be really hard to tell. I haven't met many Hindus in my life (maybe 3 or 4 compared to 9001 Sikhs and Muslims), which is partly what makes it hard for me.

It's kind of funny because until reading online that India is mostly Hindu, I thought it was a mostly Sikh country because almost all the Indians I knew were Sikh.

I don't really know if I have a point here, just sharing my experiences I guess.
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