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  • Lancashire Islamic school sex assaults
     OP - March 11, 2013, 02:08 PM
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21740704

    Just seen this- three men arrested at an Islamic school for girls in Lancashire for sexual assault.

    Will watch with interest.  Catholicism doesn't have the monopoly on this kind of thing but for too long mosques, madrasahs and Islamic schools have managed to keep it largely under wraps.

    Even if not guilty I hope it will stop parents like mine thinking Islamic schools are some sort of safe haven for children. At least in state schools there is a level of transparency around how child protection policies are implemented and monitored.
  • Lancashire Islamic school sex assaults
     Reply #1 - March 11, 2013, 02:38 PM
    Do not all organisations folllow standard child protection rules, like the NSPCCs?

    http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/trainingandconsultancy/consultancy/aboutconsultancy_wda59520.html

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  • Lancashire Islamic school sex assaults
     Reply #2 - March 11, 2013, 03:37 PM
    All are supposed to but organisations that are faith based and independently funded are not always flagged or monitored.

    See this  re madrasahs : http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/nov/28/madrasa-teachers-crb-check-safeguard?CMP=EMCNEWEML1355%25%25__AdditionalEmailAttribute1%25%25

    Crbs are criminal conviction checks (for non uk members reading this)

    I don't know about others here but my parents would never have gone to a madrasah and investigated whether all staff there were CRB'd before inducting me. It wouldn't have occurred to them because the trust they have in those running madrasahs. To question or demand such thing is bringing outsiders in. (completely wrong of course as it should be all about ensuring protection- then again my parents accepted it if the madrasah teacher had told them I needed to be hit with a stick if I forgot my lesson- for my own good. They trusted the teachers not to hit us TOO hard or cause any real damage!!)

    The other issue is if there are instances, they are death within community and often not reported so any one with a dubious past of sexual accusations wouldnt be flagged up by the CRB system if never convicted of it.

    Of course this thing in Lancashire may have nothing to do with the staff at all.
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