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  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #30 - March 17, 2013, 09:32 PM
    That is a good topic. Hell too. I remember on the magic sandwich show when he was asked about hell he did avoid answering. Also we could ask his opinion on beheading. Apparently they are painless Roll Eyes.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #31 - March 17, 2013, 09:42 PM
    He's a coward, a charlatan, and a snake oil salesman. He can't debate man to man, one on one, or under normal debating rules and conditions. But then that's not the point, the point is to manipulate the whole situation, to be the chief circus clown, and to spread Wahabbi Dawah on multimedia.

    He basically wants to be the British Zakir Naik. And he's a scaredy cat.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #32 - March 17, 2013, 10:08 PM
    Look at Hamza running scared from TheRationalizer. 

      Cheesy 

    excuses...excuses   

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    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #33 - March 17, 2013, 10:17 PM
    @TheDarkKnight

    Thank you for the wonderful video, that was awesome stuff Tongue
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #34 - March 17, 2013, 10:20 PM
    What does he mean by academics? I don't know if the Rationalier is a teacher or a scholar in some institiute of higher education, but does that even matter? The POINT is that he has more knowledge about Islam than most people, including academics like Lawrence Krauss. And from Hamza's perspective, wouldn't it be MORE beneficial to debate Ex-Muslims, rather than Non-Muslims (not including apostates)?
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #35 - March 17, 2013, 10:31 PM
    ^

    he doesn't want to debate.

    He just wants publicity for himself. Me and others on this forum have been following Hamza's career since the summer of 2011 when he showed up to the atheist convention.

    This guy is one of the most dishonest people you will ever meet.

    He doesn't even believe his own arguments.
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #36 - March 17, 2013, 10:44 PM
    Which is why it was a mistake for Krauss to agree debating with him
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #37 - March 17, 2013, 10:58 PM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on March 17, 2013, 02:18 PM
    he already won

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Pdc60JBvE

    Lawl. He looks like a fat little t-rex trying to punch.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #38 - March 17, 2013, 11:06 PM
    Krauss has done nothing but harm to himself and his reputation. Intellectuals and scientists should accept public invitations only when they're arranged by academic institutions. Religious organizations would turn to dirty tactics as a matter of reflex.

    And how naively Krauss answered Hamza's question. When you intend to tell a pseudo-intellectual, slobbering crackpot that you are about to rationalize your morality (why incest is right/wrong), you should be aware that this person and his little crowd will try to trap you into a corner by the way you phrase yourself. This is again why a public debater should be an orator of class as well as an academic.
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #39 - March 17, 2013, 11:14 PM
    He doesn't debate non academics like the guy he got his arguments from william lane craig. He only wants to debate PHD's to appeal to authority. It's like why WLC doesn't want to debate matt dillahunty.

    I had a feeling therationalisers non acedemic background would be used as an excuse. Typical.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #40 - March 18, 2013, 12:27 AM
    "Only someone naive will debate an issue where the opponent can invent lies/misquote just to win an argument."

    lol ... doesn't everybody can lie or misquote something, even academics? I don't see what point Hamza is trying to make here... seems like an excuse  Huh?
    If the abrahamic god judged himself according to his own moral standards, he'd go to hell.

    He's jealous, full of pride, he created evil, he doesn't heal sick people while he could, he's attacking people who are weaker than him, he follows his own desires and he commits murders all the time.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #41 - March 18, 2013, 12:36 AM
    its a really strange thing to say.

    TheRationalizer wants to debate Hamza because Hamza is misrepresenting, and TheRationalizer is willing and able to prove it. It doesn't even make sense as a poor excuse. If your opponent is 'misrepresenting', you prove it, and then you win the debate. Easy.

    In addition, the hipocrisy of that statement is really through the roof, but that probably doesn't even need to be said.

    Hamza thinks he is a big shot now. cute
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #42 - March 18, 2013, 03:59 AM
    Wait Hamza is NOT an academic!  So wtf is he complaining about?  Dude cant even speak Arabic but wants to debate about Islam and he has the balls to talk academics?  Just blast him on twitter for being a coward.  And link to the magic sandwich show and let people decide for themselves.

    Beheading is painless, he doesn't mind hearing his parents screams of pain while he enjoys the 72 alien virgins with unbreakable hymens.  loser!
    Oh my Christopher Hitchens its a fihrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #43 - March 18, 2013, 07:20 AM
    I think it's obvious that Hamza is doing whatever he can to back out.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #44 - March 18, 2013, 08:35 AM
     popcorn
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #45 - March 18, 2013, 04:56 PM
    Check Rationalizers Twitter- ITS HAPPENING!
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #46 - March 22, 2013, 01:15 PM
    I'll post the tweets here for those who don't want to go through the pain of trying to follow a convo on twitter.

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    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #47 - March 22, 2013, 01:16 PM
    So hamza agreed to an informal discussion but not a debate....cowardly. 

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    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #48 - March 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
    I disagree. I think it is better.
     a formal debate is perfect for hamza. He can speak quickly for 25 minutes saing as much bullshit as possible interrupted.
    A conversation is more like  real debate. So called formal debates are simply alternating rehearsed speeches.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #49 - June 03, 2013, 07:46 AM
    Is this ever going to happen or is Hamza going to move countries to avoid the Rationalizer?
    Oh my Christopher Hitchens its a fihrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #50 - June 03, 2013, 12:46 PM
    ^

    No it's not gonna happen.

    Hamza chickened out.
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #51 - September 22, 2013, 11:46 PM
    these two have such a cute relationship. They speak to each other pretty much every day on twitter. Always trying to subtly insult each other
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #52 - September 22, 2013, 11:57 PM
    Aww  001_wub

    When Hamza wrote his little report on The Rationalizer interviewing scientists who were used in propaganda for the scientific miracle claims, he just said "An atheist is". Wouldn't mention who. bless.

    "What do we want?"
    "Hamza to man up and debate the Rationalizer!"
    "When do we want it?"
    "Now!"
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #53 - September 23, 2013, 01:04 AM
    Stupid Tortoise. When the hell has TheRationalizer ever misrepresented?! finmad
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #54 - February 09, 2015, 12:10 PM
    Quote from: Kodanshi on September 23, 2013, 01:04 AM
    Stupid Tortoise. When the hell has TheRationalizer ever misrepresented?! finmad

     Cheesy Cheesy  well he is not that stupid but he is certainly deluded fool As a kid  growing up in  ghettos of England he was quite smart

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYschsArLo
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #55 - February 09, 2015, 12:12 PM
    Yeez, it's your real birthday in less than two weeks Shocked

    Tzortzis grew up in the same area as me, lol.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #56 - February 09, 2015, 12:44 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on February 09, 2015, 12:12 PM
    Yeez, it's your real birthday in less than two weeks Shocked

    Cheesy  damn you,  where did you get that from?   but you are right Qtian.,

    Quote
    Tzortzis grew up in the same area as me, lol.

          but I grewup  in much worse area than you two guys grew up.. lol
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #57 - February 09, 2015, 12:46 PM
     Cheesy  Cheesy

    You read my posts, I read yours.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • TheRationalizer vs Hamza Tzortzis
     Reply #58 - February 09, 2015, 10:34 PM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on March 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
    I disagree. I think it is better.
     a formal debate is perfect for hamza. He can speak quickly for 25 minutes saing as much bullshit as possible interrupted.
    A conversation is more like  real debate. So called formal debates are simply alternating rehearsed speeches.


    Cross examinations > "debates"
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
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