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  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #360 - April 23, 2014, 01:00 PM
    Quote from: lua on April 23, 2014, 12:37 PM
    Grin He meant the leave him alone part.

    Oh...  wait..wait..

    leave him alone doesn't mean leave the guy.,  just because of his religious belief.

    As long as it doesn't interfere with your INDIVIDUALITY and your freedom of expression., the religious belief  should be independent of the relationships..  
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #361 - April 23, 2014, 01:03 PM
    Quote from: Descent on April 23, 2014, 12:58 PM
    A disease that currently affect 1.5 billion people. I forgot the name.  Wink

    ................

    no..no....noooooooooooooooooooo..

     it could be more, more than 1.5 billion.,  you will find that in Islam as well as other so-called religions. The only difference is ., Islam is bit more rigid   and it makes human brain bit more dumb and numb..  
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #362 - April 25, 2014, 12:09 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on April 23, 2014, 01:00 PM
    Oh...  wait..wait..

    leave him alone doesn't mean leave the guy.,  just because of his religious belief.

    As long as it doesn't interfere with your INDIVIDUALITY and your freedom of expression., the religious belief  should be independent of the relationships..  


    I know what you meant, Yeezevee. Thanks for the advice.  yes

    Quote from: Descent on April 23, 2014, 12:58 PM
    Do you two ever planning on moving to a different region in the country? Maybe that way he can get away from his relatives.


    I don't know. Our plans are still so uncertain. If we stay in the states after graduation, we're probably going to move wherever a good job would have one of us move. But this guy seems to have friends and relatives all over the place. I'm sure he'll always find some way to get a pat on the back for his conspiracy theories. If all else fails, he'll find reassurance on the internet. comp26
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #363 - April 25, 2014, 12:39 PM
    Quote from: lua on April 25, 2014, 12:09 PM
    ...................... But this guy seems to have friends and relatives all over the place. I'm sure he'll always find some way ...................

    May be has some Histrionic Personality Disorder  

    Give the guy some links on mental disorders that many people are not aware that they have it,  such as

    histrionic-personality-disorder

    Antisocial Personality Disorder

    Dependent Personality Disorder

    Narcissistic Personality Disorder

    But don't tell him that he has it...   Just tell him many Americans and those who went to School in America has those problems..   BLAME AMRIKA...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #364 - April 25, 2014, 12:44 PM
    Interesting. He ruffles too many of his friends'/relatives' feathers in other subjects for me to think he has one of those, he has in fact made some enemies out of a couple of his cousins.  wacko
    Quote from: yeezevee on April 25, 2014, 12:39 PM
    Just tell him many Americans and those who went to School in America has those problems..   BLAME AMRIKA...


    That is the way to get him to listen, though...Blaming America is the best way to break criticism to him. Grin
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #365 - April 25, 2014, 12:50 PM
    Your husbands attitudes remind of this... except replace Canada with America.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #366 - April 25, 2014, 12:54 PM
    Ha, he's not that bad anymore, but if you showed that to me two years ago the parallels might have been unnerving...
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #367 - April 25, 2014, 01:50 PM
    ^If you don't mind me asking lua, when did you leave Islam?
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #368 - April 25, 2014, 02:24 PM
    Don't mind at all! But it's kind of hard to answer, actually. You'd think something like this would've had this "A-ha!" moment that I'd definitely remember, but it was more like, from my late teens onward, I kept finding the "Islam" I could accept getting narrower and narrower?

    Around a year ago or more, when I was reading the Quran or listening in prayer or listening to the words that were coming out of my mouth when I was doing my apologist rambling, I often caught myself thinking,"You don't really believe this, do you?" And at a certain point I just kind of knew that everything about Islam I was hanging onto had fallen away. So I'd suppose the best answer is roughly a year ago. But the first time I ever called myself an apostate, even in my own mind, was here in my introduction post!

  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #369 - April 25, 2014, 02:27 PM
    Quote from: lua on April 25, 2014, 02:24 PM
    ........................

    Around a year ago or more, when I was reading the Quran or listening in prayer or listening to the words that were coming out of my mouth when I was doing my apologist rambling, I often caught myself thinking,"...............

    That is the effect of bloody research you are doing  in biology

     STOP IT  finmad  STOP THINKING  AND STOP DOING RESEARCH WITH QURAN.......   finmad
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #370 - April 25, 2014, 02:29 PM
    I could've used you a year ago, Yeezevee!
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #371 - April 25, 2014, 02:41 PM
    Yeah lua what were you doing thinking!?

    "Stop thinking and let Allah inside your heart and you will embrace Islam."
    -Worst. Apologetic Nonsense. Ever.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #372 - April 25, 2014, 02:44 PM
    But not unlike what some most of them say.  wacko
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #373 - April 25, 2014, 03:41 PM
    Thanks lua Afro I think it was like that for most people. It probably took me about two years altogether. I kept on shedding hadith until I became a quasi-Quranist then I allowed myself to really question the whole belief system when I realised how intellectually dishonest I was being and it crumbled. I joined this forum a couple of days before I told myself "I am not a Muslim". Ironically, it was a desire to learn more and be a better Muslim that led to my apostasy...
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #374 - April 25, 2014, 03:46 PM
    Quote from: Descent on April 25, 2014, 02:41 PM
    Yeah lua what were you doing thinking!?

    "Stop thinking and let Allah inside your heart and you will embrace Islam."
    -Worst. Apologetic Nonsense. Ever.

    I think that is wrong word or misspelled Descent.,

    It should be " Embarrass"., Allah inside your heart/mind/brain/whatever is O>K, the problems come when this inside allah comes out and try to control human beings through some stupid books and stupid rituals

    that is where the problem lies..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #375 - April 25, 2014, 09:54 PM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on April 25, 2014, 03:41 PM
    Thanks lua Afro I think it was like that for most people. It probably took me about two years altogether. I kept on shedding hadith until I became a quasi-Quranist then I allowed myself to really question the whole belief system when I realised how intellectually dishonest I was being and it crumbled. I joined this forum a couple of days before I told myself "I am not a Muslim". Ironically, it was a desire to learn more and be a better Muslim that led to my apostasy...


    Ah, I'm glad I'm not alone, then.  yes It sounds like you were quicker to catch your dishonesty than I was, though. I wasted a lot of time convincing myself to keep believing.  wacko

    Anyway, glad you wound up here!
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #376 - May 16, 2015, 12:15 AM
    So the big news over here is that the Boston marathon bomber was sentenced to death.

    I'm generally reluctant to weigh in on things like this, but if I'm being honest, I'm disappointed. Is the death penalty really a fitting punishment? A redditor brought attention to the kind of fantastic title of The Onion's article: Tsarnaev Death Penalty A Warning To Any Other Religious Fanatics Hoping To Be Martyred. Fanatics willing to go down in a blaze of glory or die young and famous in the states are a dime a dozen. Rotting in jail until you die of old age? Less appealing.

    Besides, this kid is young, and if he lived another fifty years behind bars, I wouldn't be surprised if one day he realized the gravity of what he did or that maybe, if it was ever a large part of his decision, paradise isn't exactly waiting for him. Maybe time would give some chance for him to admit fault, to dissuade others from making the same mistake, for at least something positive to come out of his punishment.

    Ah well.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #377 - May 16, 2015, 01:17 AM
    I am sure there is hope yet. Doesn't he have the right to appeal? Though McVeigh did not..
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #378 - May 16, 2015, 11:17 AM
    Quote from: lua on May 16, 2015, 12:15 AM
    Is the death penalty really a fitting punishment?

    Confess I've never been much of a one for the death penalty. Demeans all involved, humanity even.

    But strangely I make an exception when a tyrant like Ceausescu or Gaddafi is topped. I've never been accused of consistency, mind.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #379 - May 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
    Quote from: David on May 16, 2015, 11:17 AM
    Confess I've never been much of a one for the death penalty. Demeans all involved, humanity even.

    But strangely I make an exception when a tyrant like Ceausescu or Gaddafi is topped. I've never been accused of consistency, mind.

    Hello David ...  Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi is topped on your list fro death penalty? 



    that guy??  How about this guy from today's news


    Mohammed Morsi: Egypt's ex-leader sentenced to death

    where does hes stand on your list.. ??
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #380 - May 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
    'Topped' means 'done in', Yeez.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #381 - May 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
    'Done in' means...
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #382 - May 16, 2015, 11:39 AM
    Quote from: David on May 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
    'Topped' means 'done in', Yeez.

    Oh! I see.. So what did he do to deserve such death??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCyL-QxeRCA

    I know his PERSONAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES but what did he do to  Libya and Libyan people to deserve such death
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #383 - May 16, 2015, 11:52 AM
    I don't like the manner of it one bit (no-one 'deserves' such a death), but I can't find it in me to mourn the outcome.

    As I said earlier.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #384 - May 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
    Quote from: three on May 16, 2015, 01:17 AM
    I am sure there is hope yet. Doesn't he have the right to appeal? Though McVeigh did not..


    McVeigh was sentenced under federal law though, this guy was tried under state law which means he has all kinds of appeals open to him.  He'll probably be on death row for around 15 years which means the whole thing will be dragged out for the families involved.  It would have been better to have sentenced him to life without parole, so everybody can forget about him.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #385 - May 16, 2015, 02:14 PM
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    It would have been better to have sentenced him to life without parole, so everybody can forget about him.


    I didn't realize it would take so long. Some of the survivors wanted him executed for that very reason: so they could have closure and move on. And that was the only positive thing I could think of for this verdict. But if that's the case, there goes that.

    Quote from: David on May 16, 2015, 11:17 AM
    Confess I've never been much of a one for the death penalty. Demeans all involved, humanity even.

    But strangely I make an exception when a tyrant like Ceausescu or Gaddafi is topped. I've never been accused of consistency, mind.


    I get that. I generally don't like it, either, but when people hear that they usually give me increasingly dire hypotheticals and at some point I'll wind up eventually agreeing that at least some people ought to be.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #386 - May 16, 2015, 03:03 PM
    I think alot of people make the mistake of thinking that the death penalty will result in closure for the families - maybe it does in countries like China where the time between guilty verdict and execution is about a week.  In a democracy, that's never going to happen, it'll be a decade or more of regular court appeals,  all accompanied by media coverage which doesn't sound to me like closure.  It would have been better to just lock him up and throw away the key, that way everybody could forget about him.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #387 - May 16, 2015, 03:12 PM
    Plus it creates a martyr, not good for fighting against Islamism and Islamists. Will aide them!
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #388 - May 16, 2015, 08:31 PM
    Yes, that too.  The Chechens in particular will probably see him as a martyr now.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #389 - May 17, 2015, 01:58 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
    McVeigh was sentenced under federal law though, this guy was tried under state law which means he has all kinds of appeals open to him.  He'll probably be on death row for around 15 years which means the whole thing will be dragged out for the families involved.  It would have been better to have sentenced him to life without parole, so everybody can forget about him.


    No, I mean McVeigh WANTED to die. He would not have appealed, even if he could have. So that could be an issue, as it would further his ¨martyrdom¨ to not appeal.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
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