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  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     OP - May 03, 2013, 11:06 PM


    Long time member of this forum Saif has had this article published by the Rationalist Association - plenty of food for thought!

    ++++++++++

    For years Saif Rahman has been an agnostic and an ex-Muslim activist. So why is he thinking of calling himself a cultural Muslim?

    FRIDAY, 3RD MAY 2013


    For years I’ve been an ex-Muslim activist.

    My transition from being a Muslim to ex-Muslim was sudden. After spending years frustratedly attempting to reconcile my personal and religious beliefs, I realised I was being intellectually dishonest and often bending Islam to fit with my personal ideals. My religious cousin from Pakistan crystallized this perfectly when he came to stay with us.

    We would often get into long debates about Islam, lasting long into the night. They would often end on a heated note, where he would say something like “You are either Muslim or you are not” or “Either accept everything in Islam is right because it’s been produced by an infallible God, or don’t call yourself a Muslim.”

    I can’t recall which contentious issue broke the camel’s back, but on one occasion I was not willing to compromise and called his bluff. I conceded that he was right, and that I was no longer a Muslim. His face registered his shock. In an effort to reverse the damage he asked me to write all my arguments down so he could take them to a learned scholar of Islam.

    I did so in an eleven-page letter. I eagerly anticipated his response and even copied in each of my siblings. After three months my brother received a phone call from the cousin saying that he hadn’t forgotten and was still working on the reply. It’s been eight years, and I still haven’t heard back. I turned the letter into a blog post which has since been viewed 50,000 times. That post morphed into my book The Islamist Delusion.

    I now run an online forum, Debating Islam, that has 7,300 members, evenly split between Muslims and ex-Muslims. I took over this group from moderate Muslims, who had originally set it up in support of the Imam of Leyton Mosque, Usama Hasan, on whom a fatwa had been declared for his defence of Darwinian evolution in a mosque lecture. When the forum became overrun with extremists trolls issuing death threats it was dissolved and I took over the carcass and repurposed it as a free speech site dedicated to hosting debates between current and former Muslims. The same extremists tried the trick again, and even hacked the site, but eventually with the help of other ex-Muslims, we chased them off. During these battles I collected 139 death threats, but, for me it’s worth it when I see yet another Muslim embracing humanism. I keep a public record of people who have renounced their faith on the site – the Murtad (Infidel) Register – and there is literally no more space for another name.

    Yet, despite my busy life as an ex-Muslim activist I’m growing less convinced that “ex-Muslim” is always a useful description. It can come across as confrontational and overly simplistic, and has the tendency to close down debate before it starts.

    Lately I’ve become more comfortable with another term, one which is equally unpopular on both sides of the debate: “cultural Muslim”. Muslims don’t like the term for obvious reason: asking why “Muslim” should need a qualifier or questioning the right of an atheist to use the word “Muslim” at all. For ex-Muslims it can sound too accommodating, like a prevarication about belief when a clear rejection is what is required.

    Certainly it’s not perfect. I would much prefer the description “secular agnostic utilitarian rationalist reductionist humanist with cultural Muslim influences”, but that won’t fit on my business card.

    The point I am trying to make is that merely describing yourself by your lack of belief in a particular religion does not do justice to the tapestry of different influences and experiences that go to make up a person. Nor to the fact that we are located in particular socio-cultural context.

    I was raised in the UK and went to a Protestant primary school in Manchester where every morning during assembly I clasped my hands to the Lord’s Prayer. It always seemed alien to me. Yet, had the prayer been in Arabic, it would have felt perfectly natural. My early cultural life, like that of most people born of Muslim parentage, was saturated with Islam and Islamic idioms. Even now I still visit my family on religious festivals, greet elders in Arabic and still murmur “Alhamdolillah” subconsciously when I sneeze. My father recently passed away, and I went to his Janazah (Muslim funeral). I entered the mosque for the first time in years, and made my prayers in the usual way. What other way is there?

    Much of this will be familiar to British humanists who at weddings, Easter and funerals revert to a default mode and become cultural Christians. Even Richard Dawkins proudly asserts that he is a cultural Christian and enjoys singing Carols along with everybody else. These patterns are comforting, familiar and a way to stay connected to your community. They are not so easily sloughed off when you renounce your belief in god. Nor should they be.

    Of course I did not invent the concept of the Cultural Muslim, but I do maintain author rights to its Wikipedia entry. Here’s how I describe it there:

    “Cultural Muslims are secular, religiously unobservant or irreligious individuals who still identify with Muslim culture due to family background, personal experiences or the social and cultural environment in which they grew up.”

    The writer and Islam expert Malise Ruthven has compared this kind of cultural Muslim to a secular Jew, someone who “takes on his or her parents’ confessional identity without necessarily subscribing to the beliefs and practices associated with the faith.”

    In my view most Muslims are against extremism and deep-down have much more in common with humanists, although they are practising a form of Pascal’s Wager, than they have with Islamists. Subconsciously, many question the traditional interpretations of the Islamic faith, yet remain proud of their religion’s architectural, literary and poetic heritage. They embrace the positive aspects of its culture – its camaraderie, charitability, hospitality and respect for elders – and still enjoy its cuisine, clothing and music. As one ex-Muslim joked to his wife, "I can give up God. I can give up Religion. But I can't give up Sufi music."

    This raises the million dollar question: can you be a cultural Muslim and a Muslim at the same time? Traditionalist Salafists would scoff at the idea and boot you out of the mosque quicker than you could say “Allah hu Akbar”. Modernists entertain the idea, if only behind clenched teeth, because it still holds you within the throes of Islam.

    For me the issue is about engagement. I believe we have an opportunity to explore, reflect and engage with our common heritage in a positive fashion, rather than focusing on the dissociative stigma of the ex-Muslim tag for which I am, rather unfortunately, well known. I find believers are more amenable that way, and more importantly, it yields results. For the first time this debate can bring two important and largely ignored groups together; the self-segregated irreligious and the forsaken Muslims liberals. Together they hold the key to lasting bottom-up reform within the Ummah, just as the same groups did with the Church’s Reformation.

    We can each support and promote our common cause against Islamic extremism. If anything can bridge the existing impasse, negativity and inertia within the today's Islamic World, I’m all for it.

    http://rationalist.org.uk/articles/4145


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #1 - May 03, 2013, 11:40 PM

    Overall great Article by Saif there.   Afro


    Although I'm not so sure I can agree with this part of it

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    In my view most Muslims are against extremism and deep-down have much more in common with humanists......than they have with Islamists.

     

    I think with science denial such as evolution, intolerance of homosexuals and supporting the persecution of apostates "mainstream" muslims have alot more in common with the salafis. 


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #2 - May 03, 2013, 11:51 PM

    ^Have you been reading The Daily Mail again. Still drifting towards the right maybe?
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #3 - May 04, 2013, 12:02 AM

    ^

    What about my post in this thread is factually incorrect ?

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #4 - May 04, 2013, 07:49 AM

    ^The all inclusive blanket coverage of your statement. If you had said ...many "mainstream" muslims... then maybe it would have not sounded like an FFI worthy post.
  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #5 - May 04, 2013, 07:52 AM

    WOW. I love this article so much. Crazy coincidence that this topic has been on my mind for the last few days.

    It came up because on Facebook, there have been two big discussions about "Atheist Jews". People, including myself, ask, how does that work? But I understood it better than those who don't come from some kinda ethnic background. Jews have their own set of cultures that influence every aspect of their life, from the moment they wake up (not supposed to rub your eyes), to dietary restrictions, clothing and whatever else. According to the "atheist Jews" that answer, they continue engaging in their Jewish tradition without a God and have freedom not to engage. Muslims have these traditions too. It's like a double culture. Can we ever come to the place where we become "atheist Muslims"?? If you don't come from one of these double cultures, you're culture is the national culture sorta thing. You don't have more than one new year's celebration, eat "normal" food, listen to "normal" music blabla...But many of us Muslim ethnic born have this double thing going on.

    I've been thinking of ways to embrace or own part of my Arabness/Left-over-Islamicness and it hurts my head thinking about it. What parts to officially keep, and what to chuck out? Well it will happen through experience but I am sure I wont discard everything. My ideal me includes the ability to be at peace with my background while not letting it overpower my ever-learning personality.

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #6 - May 04, 2013, 09:30 AM

    The key is will Muslims accept atheist / non believing Muslims as part of the Islamic identity?

    Anyway, much to think about in this.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #7 - May 04, 2013, 09:36 AM

    Saif is looking at this strategically - that its a way to ease people away from Islam, by staying within the fold of Islam by asserting a 'cultural Muslim' / non believing Muslim identity.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #8 - May 04, 2013, 10:46 AM

    ^ Being an atheist mole evil or as Islam refers to us: munafiq.
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #9 - May 04, 2013, 12:58 PM

    I've thought about this a lot too. The problem again is Muslims not accepting us. If a Muslim in the community died that I respected, I would want to go to the janazah. I'd even do the whole takbeer thing in front of the body out of respect. But would Muslims who knew I was an apostate accept me there? I think not.

    The only way to be accepted as a "cultural Muslim" is to remain in the closet about what you actually believe about Islam. Otherwise, I don't see a Muslim community accepting you.

    Outside of the community acceptance aspect, there isn't much that is uniquely Islamic that I even want to hold on to.
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #10 - May 04, 2013, 02:48 PM

    ^ Exactly.

    I actually find it more self-respecting and honest to not call myself a Muslim at all since I don't believe in the truth of Islam. To me, calling yourself a 'cultural Muslim' sounds like you are scared of calling yourself an ex-Muslim.  I'm not scared of that. Also, Muslims need to know that leaving Islam is possible and doesn't suddenly make you an evil human being.

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #11 - May 04, 2013, 04:53 PM

    "Cultural Muslim" seems more appropriate for non-practicing Muslims.

    I've thought about this a lot too. The problem again is Muslims not accepting us. If a Muslim in the community died that I respected, I would want to go to the janazah. I'd even do the whole takbeer thing in front of the body out of respect. But would Muslims who knew I was an apostate accept me there? I think not.

    The only way to be accepted as a "cultural Muslim" is to remain in the closet about what you actually believe about Islam. Otherwise, I don't see a Muslim community accepting you.

    Outside of the community acceptance aspect, there isn't much that is uniquely Islamic that I even want to hold on to.

    Precisely. Especially as a woman, what exactly is there that's worth holding onto? Other than my family and some friends.
  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #12 - May 04, 2013, 04:54 PM

    I've thought about this a lot too. The problem again is Muslims not accepting us.

     

    Heres my issue with the muslims accepting us part.

    If they are salafis/wahaabis or practicing sunnis then they don't even accept moderate muslims. All the death threats given to Usama Hasan for speaking about evolution is proof of that.

    On the other hand if the muslims you want to accept us are moderates/liberal like Usama Hasan, Maajid Nawaz etc then they aren't intimidating or harassing apostates like us even when we declare ourselves as such.

    So which muslims would be more tolerant of cultural muslims that critisize islam that wouldn't be tolerant of apostates that critisize islam??

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #13 - May 04, 2013, 11:42 PM

    Guys check out this article! What a weird coicidence
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/an-atheist-muslims-perspective-on-the-root-causes-of-islamist-jihadism-and-the-politics-of-islamophobia_b_3159286.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
    An Atheist Muslim's Perspective on the 'Root Causes' of Islamist Jihadism and the Politics of Islamophobia

    Here is how he describes it, which is how I relate too
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    As an atheist Muslim (I'm not a believer, but I love Eid, the feasts of Ramadan and my Muslim family and friends)

    .
    Last night I was at a Shia version of bar mitzvah where on that day each year,  there is like a mass celebration for girls who are gonna hit puberty. It is a ladies formal, dressy, fancy and shit and then girls get taught about puberty and then the dumb part, their responsibility as future Muslim women and dinner, live performance and charity auction. I'll be going to some more events this week too, speeches and shit, no one is forcing me, my own family doesn;t go, but I always learn little snipets at these things and love it.
    The key is will Muslims accept atheist / non believing Muslims as part of the Islamic identity?


     No definitely not, it breaks the only non forgivable sin, unlike gay Muslims who have a better chance at heaven but who need their approval for that title? Not a believer, just of Muslimish backgorund, total kafir  grin12


    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #14 - May 04, 2013, 11:47 PM

    That's a great article, maybe worth posting as its own threat Jila?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #15 - May 04, 2013, 11:53 PM

    On it grin12

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #16 - May 05, 2013, 12:22 PM

    'Atheist Muslim' sounds absurd to me. I remember Ayaan Hirsi Ali describing herself as such on a current affairs program here many years ago and the reporter was was like Huh? 

    'Jewish atheist' or 'atheist Jew' works because Jewishness is also seen as an ethnicity, and not just a religious identity. Most American Jews, for instance, are very secular and belong to either the Reform or Conservative strains; also in Judaism as long as one does not formally convert to another religion they are by default Jewish if their mother is Jewish, even if they become atheist/agnostic, they're still considered a part of the Jewish community and can happily call themselves Jews and attend bar/bat mitzvahs, weddings, funerals, etc. Islam is as hostile as religions get when it comes to apostates, it's reminiscent of a cult; the most accepted opinion is that apostates are to be killed and Muslims are generally very hostile to apostates, even family members. There's no way any Muslim community would tolerate an out atheist ex-Muslim in their midst. I guess you could attend Eid and Ramadan festivities if your family doesn't disown you. 

    Weddings are huge parties completely separate from the actual marriage ceremony in our culture, so anyone -- including non-Muslims -- can attend a wedding, which is a cultural (not religious) celebration; women don't attend funerals and why would I want to attend something like jum'a? The only thing I wouldn't want to miss is Eid (and perhaps Ramadan feasts) and even then it's only because it's a family gathering, I get Eid money and there's what I call "Eid cheer" in the air (oh, and there's food!), a bit like Christmas is for Westerners. 
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #17 - May 05, 2013, 01:40 PM

    One of the biggest hurdles atheism faces is this very issue. Too often, religion and ethnicity are conflated, therefore making criticisms of religious beliefs akin to racial prejudice.

    The definition of Jews as both a religious group and an ethnic one doesn't help the world. It provides ammo for religious apologists who try to depict us as bigots.

    The crushing majority of Muslims I know don't really believe in god. They just use the Muslim label as an identity clutch, and they don't understand why there's a double-standard when it comes to Jews. Many out of sheer antisemitism maybe...but the point still stands.

    The atheist/humanist cause would be better served if Jewish atheists stopped using the Jew label.
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #18 - May 05, 2013, 02:37 PM

    Quote
    The definition of Jews as both a religious group and an ethnic one doesn't help the world. It provides ammo for religious apologists who try to depict us as bigots.

    But that is indeed the case and Judaism facilitates it because one is not considered an apostate unless they join another religion so an atheist from a Jewish family can still call themselves a Jew and participate in Jewish rituals and whatnot. That's not to say that you can't criticize Judaism as a religion.
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    The crushing majority of Muslims I know don't really believe in god. They just use the Muslim label as an identity clutch, and they don't understand why there's a double-standard when it comes to Jews. Many out of sheer antisemitism maybe...but the point still stands.

    What? Shocked What kind of Muslims do you hang with?
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #19 - May 05, 2013, 03:50 PM

    I know that Jews don't excommuniate apostates and I congratulate them for it. All I'm saying is that we should move past ethnic labels. It's yet another expression of tribalism.

    As for the Muslims I hang out with...well, they're mostly close family and a select group of friends. Not representative of the Muslim majority by any means.
  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #20 - May 05, 2013, 03:54 PM

    The crushing majority of Muslims I know don't really believe in god. They just use the Muslim label as an identity clutch, and they don't understand why there's a double-standard when it comes to Jews. Many out of sheer antisemitism maybe...but the point still stands.

     

    WTF?

    I call bullshit.

    read this pew survey on muslims http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/the-worlds-muslims-unity-and-diversity-executive-summary.aspx

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #21 - May 05, 2013, 04:21 PM

    @TheDarkRebel

    Feel free to call BS. I just shared my observation.I know what the people around me think because we have deeper discussions than what you'd get with a polster. I also challenge their silly faith to the point where the only way for them to save face is admit to me (in private and after strenuous discussions) that they don't REALLY believe in winged horses or a man in the sky.

    I do not extrapolate that to other Muslims. This is a biased sample from the get-go as real believers would quit debating me after 5 minutes and bring out the "faith card" (i.e: reason has no place in spiritual matters).

    Empirically gauging what people really believe is tricky business. And again, this is my observation from interacting with a tiny and probably biased sample. That said, I see no reason in doubting that they confided in me in good faith. You might *feel* otherwise and conclude that either they are deceiving me or that I am trying to deceive you. Either way, I applaud your healthy skepticism...but don't let it devolve into seeing conspiracies everywhere. Assuming bona fides is required for discussions to move forward.
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #22 - May 05, 2013, 05:11 PM

    ^
    I like the way you handled that. Nice job.
    TheDarkRebel is yet to develop a nuanced understanding of things I feel.
  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #23 - May 05, 2013, 06:40 PM

    Jewishness was not always an ethnicity. It was, arguably, European anti-semitism that made it so. Race and ethnicity are all socially constructed and historically situated in particular contexts. A thousand years ago, there was no such thing as a Jew who doesn't believe in the God of the Old Testament/Torah. Over time, Jewishness became dissociated from Judaism because those who hated Jews hated them regardless of whether the people from Jewish families believed in the Jewish religion or not.

    Similarly, Muslim identity may get divorced from Islam if things follow a similar trajectory. As it is right now, there are 3 broad groups of people who are ALL invested in seeing the 'Muslim' identity as being something permanent, something inherent, something untouchable (this is a process called racialization: when something comes to be seen as a 'race' i.e. something 'natural', universal and permanent). These 3 groups are:
    1-self-identifying Muslims
    2-those Non-Muslims who apologise for Islam (basically to feel like they are so different from group # 3)
    3-actual racists who hate Muslims (who are generally xenophobic and hate on anyone who is not like them)

    People who fall into these groups are often most attached to the idea that being Muslim is a kind of ethnicity or 'race' and can't be changed (they also tend to think along the lines of 'once a Muslim, always a Muslim' and they tend to essentialize Muslims and think Exmuslims don't exist, because, according to them, you can't stop being a Muslim).

    Like Jewish identity was racialized in Europe over the centuries, there is a distinct shift going on towards carving out an identity of 'Muslim' as a cultural or ethnic identity rather than just a religious one.

    Some people, like Saif, think this is great, some people find this problematic as it perpetuates the same old identity politics.

    IMO, there are pros and cons to absorbing Muslim religious identity into a cultural or ethnic identity. I used to be a lot more against the idea than I am nowadays. I think a multi-pronged approach is needed. Saif's approach is also useful, and so is the approach of those who are willing to be a bit more direct. There is no reason to discount 1 approach over another. Both have their places.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #24 - May 05, 2013, 07:05 PM

    The attempted "racialization" of the Muslim identity has more cons than pros. It makes religion sneakier and therefore harder for atheists to defeat it.

  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #25 - May 05, 2013, 07:11 PM

    Yes, I agree with that. Religious ideas come to be seen as secular ideas, like the case of the Exodus (which is seen by secular Jews as an actual historical event even though there is no evidence that it actually happened). However, at the same time, the pros include the fact that once being 'Muslim' is no longer seen as having to submit to Islam as a religion, it opens up the space for many more 'Muslims' to question aspects of Islam without feeling like they're betraying 'their identity'.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #26 - May 05, 2013, 07:27 PM

    @ Al-Alethia
    Quote
    I get Eid money and there's what I call "Eid cheer" in the air (oh, and there's food!), a bit like Christmas is for Westerners. 


    We call it "Barka da Sallah" over here. Its surprising to know that its not only here that "Eid cheer" has become part of eid tradition. Lol

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #27 - May 05, 2013, 07:36 PM

    I don't think I have a problem with the idea of "cultural muslims" as an existing phenomenon, I'm just not sure that I think it should be a term for people who have outright and completely rejected the ideology and practices of Islam the way that many of us have.

    I would consider cultural muslims to be the irreligious sort who don't care much about practicing Islam but who also don't hold particularly strong views against it either. I knew many a "cultural Muslim" if we understand it that way. I honestly don't have anything against them.

    Now, I enjoyed Eid and walimas and spicy food as much as any Muslim, and I reminisce fondly over joyous Islamic occasions to this day.  But for someone like me, who has concluded that the teachings of Islam are not only false, but often times dangerous and immoral, to call myself a "cultural Muslim" is, in my opinion, unhelpful, misleading and hypocritical.

  • What?s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #28 - May 05, 2013, 07:44 PM



    I think the very term cultural muslim is an oxymoron.

    Islam presents a totalitarian way of life. It wants to control everything from clothing to food to how people interact.

    And because of that it destroys culture. Look at how most of Pakistan (excluding the few rich people) has practically lost most of it's culture. India has a very rich culture from clothing to food to dance to music and that is now absent in alot of pakistan.


    Islam got rid of the clothing, music and dance which is a very central part of culture.

    Colorful sarees being replaced by dull black niqabs, dance being seen as sinful and men and women not being able to interact freely.



    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • What’s a 'Cultural Muslim'?
     Reply #29 - May 05, 2013, 07:47 PM

    Personally, I would not call myself a 'Cultural Muslim' or an 'atheist Muslim' because being Muslim really does mean a follower of Islam, period. There is no 'Muslim culture' - there are different cultures that were subsumed by Islamic invaders and imperialists. South Asian cultures, North African cultures, various Arab cultures etc. To think there is one unifying 'cultural Muslim' identity is a misguided project at best.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
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