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  • Human intelligence on decline
     OP - May 24, 2013, 11:30 AM
    Suddenly, It's all starting to make sense...  whistling2

    People getting dumber
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #1 - May 24, 2013, 10:47 PM
    So this is supposed to be news?  grin12
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  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #2 - May 25, 2013, 12:01 AM
    Odd, I've read many a paper that states it continues to rise relative to previous generations. IQ scores of parents is lower than their offspring and so on so forth.

    Meh, I favour the idea that it is rising, never was one to believe that whole "golden era of history we should all return to" stuff.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #3 - May 25, 2013, 03:59 PM
    ^ The author attributes Flynn Effect to environmental factors (improved nutrition, education, etc), but believes genetically inherited intelligence is still on decline. I'd say it's definitely possible, but at some point we can hopefully reverse the losses with genetic engineering.
    Have you heard the good news? There is no God!
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #4 - May 25, 2013, 04:12 PM
    The nerds will end up saving civilization for the idiot majority.  And I bet the true saviors of the world will turn out all to be Atheists.  Howmucha wannabet?
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
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  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #5 - May 25, 2013, 04:23 PM
    You should read the Mismeasure of man, it's a really good book that basically blows apart most IQ score testing systems, and quite rightly so.

    I'd also hesitate to accept media driven psychological reports, even more so when they are associating a decline in childbirth as the potential cause of this decline in intelligence.  Simply because I believe there is a reason these sort of papers are favoured at the moment, one that is geared towards influencing women to have more children, or more specifically a certain type of woman.

    I mean its been shown that taking a child from a working class background and adopting them into a middle class background results in a 12 point IQ increase.  If IQ rises and falls based on a fall in genetically inherited intelligence, how can IQ leap when money based opportunities are provided?

    It just seems somewhat sneaky to continue to report that intelligence is mostly a genetic byproduct that is the reserve of a specific breed of people, one you suggest needs genetic engineering in the future, when actually IQ (as it it measured) is driven by much more than that.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #6 - May 28, 2014, 07:01 AM
    ^From what I've read, the book received praise from literary critics. However, it was heavily criticized by the scientific community, especially psychologists.

    Here is an article on the book by psychologist John B. Carroll:

    http://www.psych.utoronto.ca/users/reingold/courses/intelligence/cache/carroll-gould.html

    I can't further comment on the matter, as my expertise is not in Psychology.




  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #7 - June 11, 2014, 09:12 AM
    As a matter of fact, according to this report, the human brain (and most likely, as a result, intelligence) has shrunk over the past 20,000 years due to domestication.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4112797.ece
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #8 - June 11, 2014, 10:19 AM
    Some anthropologists even suggest that human intelligence hasn't altered atall since first homo sapiens and that we only adapt to our environment, the present adaption being technology, which has made us lazy minded but not less intelligent, people from older civilizations relied on oral tradition and memory to preserve knowledge.  Some even claim that if you drag an early man and rear him in our present time he will be as intelligent as modern man.. 
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #9 - June 11, 2014, 11:47 AM
    The brain is a muscle and like any muscle the more you use it, the more you give it a workout, the stronger it is.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #10 - June 11, 2014, 01:23 PM
    If that's the case, my brain's going flabby lol, using myself as an example, i haven't been doing any reading for a good while, i got tired of it all and i do find i am getting dumber by the minute, i can actually feel it lol   : )  I was reading today that drinking lots of water, like 2 plus litres a day will help your brain function, i tried it out few months ago, it does help.  Another health tip i saw on tv today, the docs dont think statins should be prescribed to those at risk of heart problems and claim an apple per day is more effective than this drug, not sure if theyve banned them yet.

    I'm rambling bits of useless info  wacko  Smiley 

    xxx
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #11 - June 11, 2014, 01:40 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 11, 2014, 11:47 AM
    The brain is a muscle and like any muscle the more you use it, the more you give it a workout, the stronger it is.

    The Brain is Muscle...  hearing that statement from QSM, I would have to agree that Human intelligence on decline,

    .... before in this thread I said  Human intelligence actually increased orders of magnitude since they came out of trees and start living in communities on ground..  

    Well some times I go wrong I do wrong things...

    Proteins in brain and proteins in Muscle .. huge differences..
    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 01:23 PM
    .............  I was reading today that drinking lots of water, like 2 plus litres a day will help your brain function, i tried it out few months ago, it does help.  .................

    xxx

    suki please don't try  such experiments and don't become a experimental guinea pig for whatever chit-chat comes on TV on health and medicine
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #12 - June 11, 2014, 02:02 PM
    New IQ test. If yeez likes what you say, intelligence is risen, if yeez dislikes what you say, intelligence is decreased. Grin
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #13 - June 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 11, 2014, 11:47 AM
    The brain is a muscle and like any muscle the more you use it, the more you give it a workout, the stronger it is.

    Please tell me you were being sarcastic here...
    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #14 - June 11, 2014, 02:30 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 11, 2014, 02:02 PM
    "If yeez likes what you say, intelligence is risen, if yeez dislikes what you say, intelligence is decreased." Grin  .. QSM

    Yap..   that is a fact and absolutely correct and experimentally proven fact.,   yeezevee words are "GOLD STANDARD"

    Intelligence indeed rises and falls in a given person for a given situation.

    on the other hand I used to say  " Some times color of shit is same as color of Gold"..  Cheesy
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #15 - June 11, 2014, 02:43 PM
    Quote from: oglow100 on June 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
    Please tell me you were being sarcastic here...

    No, though I suppose my wording was ill advised. I should say I find it best to think of the brain as a muscle. Workouts are all mental. Smiley
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #16 - June 11, 2014, 02:48 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 11, 2014, 02:43 PM
    No, though I suppose my wording was ill advised. I should say I find it best to think of the brain as a muscle. Workouts are all mental. Smiley

    Oh I see.. Physcial excercise gives strong muscles .. hence   exercise  with brain should in principle make it strong...

    was that the logic QSM.? .. well you may have point there.. but we must realize brian function is entirely different from Muscle function... brain is working all the time even when body is at complete rest.. So I am not sure what actually exercise for brain means .. you mean doing puzzles  and playing word games??
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #17 - June 11, 2014, 02:58 PM
    Yeah he means it's like a muscle and needs regular workouts to stay functional, Yeezeve's brains got a six pack lol that's why he talks in riddle that we no understand  :/  : )  xxx
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #18 - June 11, 2014, 03:09 PM
    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 02:58 PM
    Yeezeve's brains got a six pack lol that's why he talks in riddle that we no understand :/  : )  xxx

    Hmm.. we no understand??  we no understand?Huh??  

    ... STOP COPYING ME.. finmad

    Quote
    Yeah he means it's like a muscle and needs regular workouts to stay functional,

    suki., I must have cut some 1000 rats.. and did experiments on cat brains and some times on  dog brains Cry Cry :  .. I still use brain.. human brain..

    So now tell me what actually do you guys mean by    "regular workouts for brain to stay functional"?? .. this is indeed a problem and understanding  the functional aspects of so-called mental exercise is as not easy  as we think..

    and and stop drinking  2 liter water .. just because some one said on TV.. drink when you are thirsty and whenever you have stomach upset or feel you are NOT digesting what you ate..  finmad


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #19 - June 11, 2014, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 11, 2014, 02:43 PM
    No, though I suppose my wording was ill advised. I should say I find it best to think of the brain as a muscle. Workouts are all mental. Smiley

    Oh sweet, my bad then for misinterpreting  Afro
    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #20 - June 11, 2014, 03:17 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on June 11, 2014, 03:09 PM
    Hmm.. we no understand??  we no understand?Huh??  

    ... STOP COPYING ME.. finmad
    suki., I must have cut some 1000 rats.. and did experiments on cat brains and some times on  dog brains Cry Cry :  .. I still use brain.. human brain..

    So now tell me what actually do you guys mean by    "regular workouts for brain to stay functional"?? .. this is indeed a problem and understanding  the functional aspects of so-called mental exercise is as not easy  as we think..


    I think it refers to neuroplasticity. The brain is constantly adapting in response to different environmental influences. We don't understand much bout it yet, but we are learning new things about the brain every day.
    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #21 - June 11, 2014, 03:40 PM
    ok Yezeevee i wont drink 2 litres anymore Smiley  are you a scientist too ?  there are lots on here.  xx
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #22 - June 11, 2014, 03:42 PM
    I don't even know how you managed two liters, suki. I must get all my water from drinking tea.  wacko
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #23 - June 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
    I sometimes drunk more lol, it is dangerous, gives you nice glowy skin though,  i don't drink tea and coffee much or fizzy pop, prefer water, oh and wine  : )

    xxx
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #24 - June 11, 2014, 03:51 PM
    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 03:40 PM
    ok Yezeevee i wont drink 2 litres anymore Smiley  are you a scientist too ? there are lots on here.  xx

    well I guess you can drink 2 liters of water as long as your bladder is in a good shape.. but my six pack beer is less than your  2liters Cheesy ..  

    what scientist?  Nah.. that post was the effect of six pack.. I am just a SIN-tist

    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
    I sometimes drunk more lol, it is dangerous, gives you nice glowy skin though, .........

    really? drinking water gives glowing skin??  Hmm then due to  six pack ~2 lit  my skin must glow like sun..  Tongue
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #25 - June 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
    I sometimes drunk more lol, it is dangerous, gives you nice glowy skin though,  i don't drink tea and coffee much or fizzy pop, prefer water, oh and wine  : )


    I don't much like soda either, but I don't think I could function without tea and coffee. Grin I guess if you and I were to share a drink it would have to be wine!
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #26 - June 11, 2014, 03:57 PM
    Quote from: oglow100 on June 11, 2014, 03:17 PM
    I think it refers to neuroplasticity. The brain is constantly adapting in response to different environmental influences. We don't understand much bout it yet, but we are learning new things about the brain every day.

    well with that interesting technical word "neuroplasticity" let us get some pubed papers., I am sure there is lot of work being done on that oglow., we will discuss bit more detail on that subject of  neuroplasticity and its relation with brain adaptation..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #27 - June 11, 2014, 04:01 PM
    Quote from: suki on June 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
    I sometimes drunk more lol, it is dangerous, gives you nice glowy skin though,  i don't drink tea and coffee much or fizzy pop, prefer water, oh and wine  : )

    xxx

    Wine. yes
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #28 - June 11, 2014, 04:23 PM
    Quote from: lua on June 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
    I don't much like soda either, but I don't think I could function without tea and coffee. Grin I guess if you and I were to share a drink it would have to be wine!


     There's no way anyone could keep up with an irish lass, even Yezeevee and his pack of six..   will probably have a tipple tommorow when the world cup starts, i'm only a football fan when its the world cup lol..  theres not been much advertising about it on tv this time, i'm not even sure who is predicted to win.
  • Human intelligence on decline
     Reply #29 - June 11, 2014, 04:25 PM
    Not only ginger but a wine loving Irish ginger!!!!! suki, are you my real mum?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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