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 Topic: What does it feel like to look back?

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  • What does it feel like to look back?
     OP - June 09, 2013, 09:48 AM
    So, I just argued with my brother over something silly that he simply cannot get. And while I was looking in the forums i was thinking in parallel about my brother "I can't have been such an ass-hole when I was his age. PLease no."

    And out of curiocity I wondered what it must feel like for all you ex-muslims to look at muslims, their arguments, their thought process and think that you once argued the same things. What does it feel like to see your past? (in a sense)
    My Rules:
    1. I know bullshit when I see it.
    2. "Smart" comments will be ignored.
    3. Comments which aren't worthy of my time will be ignored.
    If I do not respond to your comment then it has fallen into the above categories.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #1 - June 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
    I never argued these things. That's why it's so hard for me to understand why the hell anyone would do so. The arguments for the existence of a god are so obviously flawed.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #2 - June 10, 2013, 02:10 PM
    I was never given the chance to challenge the existence of Allah, anytime i try, people around me react like as if i utter those words "Lord Voldermot".it was such a dark times(i call it my own jahiliyya period) when information were scarce
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #3 - June 10, 2013, 02:12 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on June 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
    The arguments for the existence of a god are so obviously flawed.

    Arguments against faith are tricky, though.

    (Faith that makes no specific truth claims, that is.)
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #4 - June 10, 2013, 05:52 PM
    I feel like an idiot of course.

    One time I threw myself heart and soul into it, and defended the indefensible to my own self, and I look back now and cringe.

    But I cringe more remembering my teenage years than my muslim years  Cheesy, there is a lot more shame in that than in being an abused child who went on to defend abuse.  That's standard practice really. 
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #5 - June 10, 2013, 07:57 PM
    Everyone is unique. I was always pretty intelligent, so I remember all my 'arguments' I used to have with myself and others. At the time, I remember being convinced of them.

    Arguments like:
    Everything must come from something. But that creates a paradox as eventually something must come from nothing. This is magical. God is magical. So God must be the answer.
    I explained everything away
     -slavery... was being written its way out... we couldn't completely change society at once
     -treatment of women... for its time... everyone has their roles
     -violence... only in self defence... what's wrong with that...

    I feel a bit of shame in regards to being so ignorant, but I am glad I always moved forward and am now free.  I look at many others who could not have taken the same road. Maybe it took me longer. But I am glad I am here.
    Now the whole religion seems so insanely silly. But I try to keep in mind how long it took me to get where I am. So I try not to be a dick about it to people about it... as long as I see them moving forward Tongue  For those moving backwards... well I just leave them out of my life.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #6 - June 10, 2013, 08:03 PM
    I feel deeply ashamed.
    "If a monster existed, it was buried deep within."
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #7 - June 11, 2013, 05:04 AM
    Wow. It seems interesting. Hard for me to imagine since I've never been in a similar spot. Except for when I look at my brother though... bunny
    My Rules:
    1. I know bullshit when I see it.
    2. "Smart" comments will be ignored.
    3. Comments which aren't worthy of my time will be ignored.
    If I do not respond to your comment then it has fallen into the above categories.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #8 - June 11, 2013, 06:18 AM
    You're a christian though, surely you realise that any contention you proffer will be predicated on faith? Or am I missing something here.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #9 - June 11, 2013, 08:03 AM
    No not really. I base my faith on all sorts of things. Not just faith. I used to be an atheist. Well, not exactly atheist...I didn't really know what I was doing. In the morning I might not believe in God, by midday I was arguing Christianity and my night time i was pro muslim, in a way. But looking back at atheists some of them look dumb and others not. Some of them have good reasons not to believe, I have mine to believe. Even to believe there is no God, that is based on faith. None the less, even as a Christian I do not reject the possibility the God doesn't exist, or that my religion is the wrong one. As I like to say: We believe, we don't know. It's just that from my search, the warmth Orthodox Christianity gives me seems the right choice.
    My Rules:
    1. I know bullshit when I see it.
    2. "Smart" comments will be ignored.
    3. Comments which aren't worthy of my time will be ignored.
    If I do not respond to your comment then it has fallen into the above categories.
  • What does it feel like to look back?
     Reply #10 - June 11, 2013, 08:04 AM
    Quote from: BerberElla on June 10, 2013, 05:52 PM
    But I cringe more remembering my teenage years than my muslim years  Cheesy, there is a lot more shame in that than in being an abused child who went on to defend abuse.  That's standard practice really. 


    Oh my. How are you coping now? (if I may ask) I hope life has turned to become something better for you Smiley
    My Rules:
    1. I know bullshit when I see it.
    2. "Smart" comments will be ignored.
    3. Comments which aren't worthy of my time will be ignored.
    If I do not respond to your comment then it has fallen into the above categories.
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