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OP - June 20, 2013, 02:17 PM

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This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them.

Doesn't this mean there is no such thing as haram food?

If the New Testament is included in the term Scripture, you will find St Peter had a dream in which all food was made lawful...

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:9-23

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Acts 10:9-23
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Peter’s Vision

9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

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Reply #1 - June 20, 2013, 02:36 PM

I seriously don't think Muhammad had any idea that the NT was a compilation of works. He seems to have thought that Jesus dictated the NT the way he dictated the Qur'an. He never even once mentions Paul, Peter, Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. He is totally oblivious to exactly what the NT really is.
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Reply #2 - June 20, 2013, 04:16 PM

So can the New Testament be used in Islamic theological discussions?

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

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Reply #3 - June 20, 2013, 04:38 PM

Muslims claim that Isa (Jesus) was given the "Injeel" (most likely derived from Evangel--the Good News, the Gospel). Classical Islamic scholarship really does not give us any indication that early Muslims realized that the NT was a collection of works that was never alleged to have been simply dictated by Jesus. Of course, Muslims will say that the "injeel" has been corrupted and as such we must follow the Qur'an, but honestly, Muhammad (or whoever the author of the Qur'an was) was remarkably ignorant of the New Testament. Very little of Jesus's life as portrayed in the NT is present in the Qur'an.

In fact, most of the legends that made their way into the Qur'an actually have their origins in various heretical gospels that were not accepted as cannon by the church. Many of these heretical sects made their way into the deserts of Arabia to gain autonomy, and it is my opinion that the author of the Qur'an gained small bits and pieces from those legends as he composed the Qur'an--not realizing there were different sources.
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Reply #4 - June 20, 2013, 05:01 PM

Quote from: happymurtad on June 20, 2013, 04:38 PM
In fact, most of the legends that made their way into the Qur'an actually have their origins in various heretical gospels that were not accepted as cannon by the church.

Apropos of nothing much:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3lLKiRF0_A

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Reply #5 - June 20, 2013, 07:08 PM

So - Judaism - dietary rules, Christianity dumps them (and circumcision except US doctors reintroduce it in twentieth century!) Islam - the final revalation, goes back to Jewish rules!

Either Allah couldn't make his mind up or....

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

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