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  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     OP - November 26, 2013, 10:52 PM

    http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/11/11/the-birth-of-a-police-state-uk-police-to-be-granted-sweeping-new-powers-2/

    Quote
    The UK Government is about to pass legislation which will make any behaviour perceived to potentially ‘cause nuisance or annoyance’ a criminal offence. The Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill also grants local authorities, police and even private security firms sweeping powers to bar citizens from assembling lawfully in public spaces. The Bill has successfully passed through the House of Commons without issue, and is now in the latter stages of review by the House of Lords, after which it will receive Royal Assent and become Law.  Those who refuse orders under the new rules will face arrest, fines and even prison time.


    What are your thoughts on this?



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  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #1 - November 27, 2013, 12:13 AM

    That is frightening.

    So the House of Commons has already passed it, our elected politicians the scum that they are.

    Now we rely on the House of Lords for some sort of sense, an unelected body.

    In the interview Miss Mendoza states the reason for the bill is to counter the demonstrations that the government are fearful will happen as a
    result of austerity.

    I think the EDL marches are another reason for this, they sure caused a lot of nuisance.

    I think when this law is eventually passed the public should be on the phone 24/7 reporting any and everything to the Police as a nuisance.
    Neighbours dog barking, babies crying, people coughing and on and on.

    The most frightening thing about this is that it gives powers to PCSO's, those jumped up little Police wannabe's now have  the power to issue on the spot fines for whatever they fancy.

    This is truly a dark day in Ol Blighty and hopefully it won't go unchallenged by us the people.

    The State is becoming the biggest enemy of the population and each and every day they turn the screw a little bit tighter.
    Whilst rewarding themselves and their friends with huge payouts and bumper bonuses.

    I'm actually quite shocked by this, I didn't know it had actually gone through the Commons and with very little reportage in the press.

    Hats off to Miss Mendoza, I shall be reading her blog more often now.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #2 - November 27, 2013, 12:18 AM

    Yeah, like this will last. Twats.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #3 - November 27, 2013, 12:24 AM

    The Police will be inundated.

    I'm going to call the Police from work and say someone is talking in a foreign language and causing me annoyance.

    One of the bosses is annoying me, he keeps asking me to do things I don't want to do.

    I heard someone fart and I'm not sure who it was, I want a full investigation.

    Heh you could be really creative, this could be fun.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #4 - November 27, 2013, 12:38 AM

    Yeah but you'd be nicked for being an annoyance Roll Eyes

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #5 - November 27, 2013, 12:48 AM

    That did cross my mind.

    Can you be arrested for causing annoyance by reporting annoyance?

    If you can then it will be pointless reporting any more crimes at all.

    I will have to do it anonymously somehow.

    It will really affect the Police crime statistics.

    You know how they are always saying crime is falling because less crimes are being reported, well this new law
    should put their figures through the roof.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #6 - November 27, 2013, 12:55 AM

    Is this shit for real?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #7 - November 27, 2013, 01:14 AM

    I don't know the exact details of the legislation so I personally cannot comment.

    But I am quite an annoying person so this has me worried.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #8 - November 27, 2013, 01:38 AM

    I can't see this lasting.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #9 - November 27, 2013, 01:41 AM

    Seriously?
    That would be cool  dance


  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #10 - November 27, 2013, 01:44 AM

    Meh.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #11 - November 27, 2013, 03:08 AM

    Hey brainwave! If you're out doing your own thing and the coppers try to arrest you, you can have them charged with being annoying.  Cheesy

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #12 - November 27, 2013, 03:20 AM

    Then be charged with wasting police time,

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #13 - November 27, 2013, 03:26 AM

    Hey: "any behaviour perceived to potentially ‘cause nuisance or annoyance’ a criminal offence". That puts the cops in the crap too.  grin12

    Or politicians, come to think of it. I mean how many politicians manage to get through one term without being annoying to somebody?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #14 - November 27, 2013, 03:37 AM

    This law really hasn't been thought out. Like I said, it won't last.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #15 - November 27, 2013, 03:38 AM

    It's going to be chaos.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #16 - November 27, 2013, 03:47 AM

    No it isn't.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #17 - November 27, 2013, 03:51 AM

    Why not?
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #18 - November 27, 2013, 03:59 AM

    This law really hasn't been thought out. Like I said, it won't last.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #19 - November 27, 2013, 04:04 AM

    You can do one of two things. Protest against it, or just ignore it, let it happen and grumble about it over a pint.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #20 - November 27, 2013, 04:14 AM

    What sot of protest would you recommend?

    Signing a petition is a good start I guess.

  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #21 - November 27, 2013, 04:18 AM

    We're living in the age of social media. With online petitions, twitter, facebook and the like at your fingertips, you have options.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #22 - November 27, 2013, 04:26 AM

    And I can even do whilst grumbling over my pint down the pub.

    What a wonderful world.
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #23 - November 27, 2013, 05:35 AM

    Well why not?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #24 - November 27, 2013, 07:12 PM

    AAhh sheet!

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #25 - November 27, 2013, 11:00 PM

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/11/feel-free-to-annoy-me--new-campaign-launched-to-protect-free-expression

    Quote
    The National Secular Society has joined together with religious groups and civil liberties campaigners to launch a new campaign to challenge Government proposals to outlaw "annoying" behaviour.
    Less than a year after the Lords voted to protect free speech by removing the word "insulting" from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, the Government is introducing a sweeping new anti-social behaviour law that threatens to undermine a wide range of free expression within the public sphere, and could silence protestors, buskers, street preachers and even carol singers.
    As with the campaign to remove the word 'insulting' from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, the National Secular Society is working with the Christian Institute and other civil liberty groups under the 'Reform Clause 1: Feel Free To Annoy Me' banner. The campaign will officially launch at the House of Commons on Wednesday 27 November.
    The proposed new law is contained in the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill. Clause 1 of the bill introduces "Injunctions to Prevent Nuisance and Annoyance" (IPNAs), which seek to suppress anything deemed to be potentially "annoying", however vague the justification. IPNAs will replace Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBOs), which had been introduced under the Labour government.
    Whilst in order for an ASBO to be issued, a court has to be satisfied that someone had at least caused or threatened to cause "harassment, alarm or distress" to someone else and that the order was "necessary" to protect the victim, the proposed new law would allow a court to impose sweeping curbs on people's liberty if it thinks they are "capable of causing nuisance or annoyance to any person", and so long as it is "just and convenient" to do so.
    The nuisance or annoyance test used for an IPNA is currently used for Anti-Social Behaviour Injunctions (ASBIs), which were introduced in 2003 specifically for a social housing context. Since ASBIs are housing specific, their scope is automatically limited. Within the broader public order context, this would not be the not the case, and concerns have been expressed that the nuisance or annoyance test encompasses a too-wide range of behaviour, and is too imprecise to allow people to understand what is expected of them. Furthermore, the proposed law includes no defence of 'reasonableness', requires only a civil burden of proof, and would give the police powerful new dispersal powers.
    In a formal legal opinion circulated to peers, former Director of Public Prosecutions and Liberal Democrat peer, Lord Macdonald QC, has described the Government's plans for these new civil injunctions as amounting to "gross state interference" with people's private lives and basic freedoms.
    He argues that, "the danger in this Bill is that it potentially empowers State interference against annoying activities in the face of shockingly low safeguards." He notes that, in practice, IPNAs could be used against virtually anyone leading to "serious and unforeseeable interferences in individual rights, to the greater public detriment."
    Stephen Evans, National secular Society, said: "Clause 1 clearly fails to strike a reasonable balance between protecting the public from anti-social behaviour and protecting essential freedoms. Legislation that criminalises "annoying" behaviour represents a serious threat to public protest and free speech and must not be allowed to pass into law."
    Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute, commented: "This law will give massive power to the authorities to seek court orders to silence people guilty of nothing more than breaching political correctness or social etiquette."
    Campaign groups such Liberty and Justice have also expressed concern about clause 1 of the bill, as has the Parliament's Joint Committee on Human Rights.


    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

    http://sinofgreed.wordpress.com/
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #26 - November 28, 2013, 08:32 AM

    The National Secular Society has joined together with religious groups. Guess it's true, all we needed was a common cause to unite them.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #27 - November 30, 2013, 06:27 AM

    This better be a joke.

    Quote
    The Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill

     


    WTF !  It's considered unlawful to be anti-social.  ?  The government should stay out of the social and private lives of citizens.

    If someone wants to be introverted and anti social they have every right to be. Who the hell is the government to tell people how to live their lives.


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #28 - December 04, 2013, 01:49 AM

    So doing this will be illegal…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOk4GLxsK8
  • Being annoying will be a crime in the UK
     Reply #29 - January 27, 2014, 03:19 AM

    Yeah, like this will last. Twats.

    I can't see this lasting.

    This law really hasn't been thought out. Like I said, it won't last.


    Told you. parrot

    Government drops plans to outlaw "annoying" behaviour

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2014/01/government-drops-plans-to-outlaw-annoying-behaviour

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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