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  • Did Allah create himself?
     OP - December 02, 2013, 05:31 PM
    I assume Allah is omnipotent like the xian god, (is he?) If so, did Allah create himself?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #1 - December 02, 2013, 07:29 PM
    Did you create yourself?
    See. This is a proof that God exists!!

    No, he didnt create himself. He is eternal. Eternity doesnt have a beginning or an end.

    Lol so obvious
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #2 - December 02, 2013, 07:48 PM
    Quote from: moi on December 02, 2013, 05:31 PM
    I assume Allah is omnipotent like the xian god, (is he?) If so, did Allah create himself?


    moi  That is not a right word for allah/god.. whatever ., The right word is "IMPOTENT"
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #3 - December 02, 2013, 08:56 PM
    I've never seen a comment by Yeezeevee that didn't involve cutting words out of someone's post and then replacing them.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #4 - December 02, 2013, 09:01 PM
    Quote from: kutta on December 02, 2013, 08:56 PM
    I've never seen a comment by Yeezeevee that didn't involve cutting words out of someone's post and then replacing them.


    well kutta.,  "allah/god is NOT omnipotent  it is impotent"  

    "right words make people easily understand that religious stuff" but my words seem to confuse people ..lol..

    with best wishes and have wonderful end of the year Holidays..  
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #5 - December 02, 2013, 09:52 PM
    Who created Allah?

    The questioner created Allah.

    Ooooooooooh!!!!!!!
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #6 - December 03, 2013, 02:22 AM
    Humans created allah.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #7 - December 05, 2013, 05:03 AM
    Meditate on this......

    If Allah exists, Allah can't know with 100% certainty if he was created or not (by say...Super Allah).
    Therefor it is impossible for Allah, or any god for that matter, to be omniscient.
    Since Allah cant know anything about Super Allah, he can't build a machine that could detect with 100% certainty that Super Allah does not exist.....therefore Allah is also not Omnipotent.
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #8 - December 05, 2013, 08:09 AM
    Homer Simpson the prophet
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #9 - December 05, 2013, 08:15 AM
    Scientific miracles of the Simpsons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk_Kjpl2AaA#t=1997
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #10 - December 05, 2013, 12:29 PM
    But who created super allah or did super allah create herself?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #11 - December 05, 2013, 01:20 PM
    Quote from: moi on December 05, 2013, 12:29 PM
    But who created super allah or did super allah create herself?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #12 - December 05, 2013, 01:57 PM
    I find it conceivable that God is an eternal entity not bound by our understanding of time. I think that something had to have always existed, be it God, the universe, multiverse, some form of physics, time itself...etc. If not, then that would mean at some point absolutely nothing existed, not even whatever laws that would allow for there to be something rather than nothing.

    Nonetheless, I am in favor of something more basic than God. Most certainly more basic than an omni-everything God with psychological issues.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #13 - December 05, 2013, 02:21 PM
    Quote from: moi on December 02, 2013, 05:31 PM
    ..........did Allah create himself?

    well  if the blind believer's brain gets blocked out to the reality of life  and assume allah/god has that total power to create and  control   everything that is out there,  and  every thing and every one  is created by allah/god .. yes.. why not?

    This he/she//it god/  must have the power  to create   itself..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuT2uI9A_s

    well let us hear   some superstitious  fool commenting on  something that he will never understand..  On the other hand don't waste your time hearing nonsense
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #14 - December 05, 2013, 03:33 PM
    WLC blah no thanks. He is dishonest to those that can figure out his BS arguments. He is a genius to those that can not  lipsrsealed
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #15 - December 05, 2013, 04:00 PM
    Quote from: Toona on December 05, 2013, 01:57 PM
    I find it conceivable that God is an eternal entity not bound by our understanding of time. I think that something had to have always existed, be it God, the universe, multiverse, some form of physics, time itself...etc. If not, then that would mean at some point absolutely nothing existed, not even whatever laws that would allow for there to be something rather than nothing.

    Nonetheless, I am in favor of something more basic than God. Most certainly more basic than an omni-everything God with psychological issues.


    I have thought of that many times. But there are still many assumptions involved. The best answer is always "I don't know" to me.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #16 - December 05, 2013, 07:52 PM
    2013 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate: The Existence of Nothing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLz6uUuMp8
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #17 - December 05, 2013, 08:06 PM
    Quote from: bogart on December 05, 2013, 03:33 PM
    WLC blah no thanks. He is dishonest ..... BS .........

     That William Lame crook's voice is so irritating., If I hear that guy for 5mts i get a  headache and I have to  hear  this voice  to sooth that irritated brain..  
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #18 - December 05, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Hell is having to watch WLC videos over and over again.
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    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #19 - December 05, 2013, 08:46 PM
    What is so beautiful is we understand how and why things become more complex.  Complex adaptitive systems, chaos, non-linearity, evolution.

    Far more interesting and beautiful than boring grumpy gods.

    http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2010/09/universe-chaotic-from-beginning.html

    Quote
    UNIVERSE CHAOTIC FROM VERY BEGINNING
    Researchers show that the big bang was followed by chaos

    - See more at: http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2010/09/universe-chaotic-from-beginning.html#sthash.Yp1fVrdX.dpuf

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #20 - December 05, 2013, 09:10 PM
    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #21 - December 06, 2013, 01:18 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 05, 2013, 08:06 PM
    That William Lame crook's voice is so irritating., If I hear that guy for 5mts i get a  headache and I have to  hear  this voice  to sooth that irritated brain..  


    I just dislike his double-standards for philosophy. Some of his arguments are not far off the mark once you strip away most of his verbal fluff. However he needs his fluff to connect philosophy to his religion.

    @Ishina

    Nice find
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #22 - December 06, 2013, 02:42 AM
    Quote from: Jedi on December 05, 2013, 09:10 PM
    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.


    I think you should name this.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #23 - December 06, 2013, 08:07 AM
    Quote from: Jedi on December 05, 2013, 09:10 PM
    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.


    I think that's one for greatest hits.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #24 - December 06, 2013, 08:36 AM
    Quote from: three on December 06, 2013, 02:42 AM
    I think you should name this.


    Like this?

    The irrepressible joy of mere existence itself

    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #25 - December 06, 2013, 08:42 AM
    Now I have to edit my quote.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #26 - December 06, 2013, 10:04 PM
    Quote from: Jedi on December 06, 2013, 08:36 AM
    Like this?

    The irrepressible joy of mere existence itself

    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.


    Yes. Good choice. Maybe you could also put this into the 100 reasons to live thread. Because, due to the title (100 reasons to live), people who need a different worldview are going there for inspiration. This could help with the angst of losing religion.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #27 - December 06, 2013, 10:56 PM
    Great tube cartoon QSE.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #28 - December 06, 2013, 11:53 PM
    Quote from: three on December 06, 2013, 10:04 PM
    Yes. Good choice. Maybe you could also put this into the 100 reasons to live thread. Because, due to the title (100 reasons to live), people who need a different worldview are going there for inspiration. This could help with the angst of losing religion.


    I will do. You've inspired me to perhaps extend this a little bit more.

    Do you have any writing to share? A blog perhaps?
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #29 - December 07, 2013, 12:00 AM
    Working on it, my friend. Thank you for asking. Currently I am spending my time gathering it all up. All I have documented so far is my children's recovery, or lack of it.

    I am very interested in your extended version.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
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