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 Topic: Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     OP - January 13, 2014, 08:30 PM


    Something of a landmark ruling it seems

    I will love it if Britain becomes a beacon for Ex Muslims from around the world seeking a safe home away from persecution

    ++++++++

    Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds


    A supervisor on the case, said: 'The decision represents an important recognition that a lack of religious belief is in itself a thoughtful and seriously-held philosophical position'

    An Afghan man is understood to have become the first atheist ever to secure asylum in Britain on religious grounds.

    His case was accepted by the Home Office on the basis there was a risk he could face persecution in Afghanistan for having rejected Islam.

    Although he was brought up a Muslim, since living in the UK he has gradually turned away from it and is now an atheist. The young man – who does not want to be identified for fear of being rejected by the Afghan community in Britain – fled to the UK from a conflict involving his family in Afghanistan.

    He first claimed asylum in 2007 when he was just 16. The claim was rejected but he was granted discretionary leave to remain until 2013 under rules to protect unaccompanied children.

    The case was taken up by Kent Law Clinic, a pro bono service provided by students and supervised by practising lawyers from the University of Kent’s Law School, alongside local solicitors and barristers. A submission to the Home Office argued that the man’s return to Afghanistan could result in a death sentence under Sharia law as an “apostate” – someone who has abandoned their religious faith – unless he remained silent about his atheist beliefs.

    His fears of persecution became more acute after attending a friend’s wedding in Pakistan, according to evidence presented to the Home Office. The man says he as shocked by how people responded to him, with one telling him: “You cannot sit and eat with people who are not Muslim”. He said he believed the situation would be worse in Afghanistan.

    Evidence presented to the Home Office also suggested that because daily life and culture in Afghanistan is permeated by Islam, living discreetly would be virtually impossible. The submission read: “The Applicant’s lack of religion causes him to live in fear of the prospect of being returned to a country where religion is both prevalent and dominant in society”.

    Claire Splawn, a second year law student at the University of Kent, prepared the case. Ms Splawn said: “We argued that an atheist should be entitled to protection from persecution on the grounds of their belief in the same way as a religious person is protected.”

    Sheona York, who supervised the case, said: “The decision represents an important recognition that a lack of religious belief is in itself a thoughtful and seriously-held philosophical position.”

    A Home Office spokesman said: “We do not routinely comment on individual cases. The UK has a proud history of granting asylum to those who need it and we consider every application on a case by case basis.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/afghan-atheist-to-get-asylum-in-britain-on-religious-grounds-9057286.html

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #1 - January 13, 2014, 09:33 PM

    Good news!  Smiley

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #2 - January 13, 2014, 11:07 PM

    This is awesome. Nice precedent!

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #3 - January 13, 2014, 11:41 PM

    The young man – who does not want to be identified for fear of being rejected by the Afghan community in Britain

    This is a little troubling.

    If his lack of belief has earned him leave to remain, he could at least profess it openly in a secular society.

    Having your cake and eating it. And scope for abusing the ruling.
  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #4 - January 14, 2014, 11:59 PM

    Here's an article on the subject from The Telegraph.

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    A young Afghan man who became an atheist after coming to Britain has been granted asylum on the grounds that the threat to his life for having no faith would amount to “religious” persecution.

    In what is thought to be the first case of its kind in the UK, the Home Office accepted that sending the man back to his country of birth could put him in danger specifically because of his lack of religious beliefs.

    The man, who is not being named for safety reasons, was born a Muslim but abandoned his faith after coming to the UK as a teenager around five years ago.

    Apostasy – or abandoning the faith – can be punished with the death penalty under Afghan law.

    Central to his case to the Home Office was the example of Abdul Rahman an Afghan man who was put on trial and faced death in 2006 for converting to Christianity.

    He was released and given asylum in Italy only after the intervention of the Afghan President Hamid Karzi who had come under intense international pressure over the case.

    In the latest case the man’s lawyers argued that as someone of no religious faith he could face even greater danger in Afghanistan than a member of a minority religion such as Christianity.

    It comes just weeks after Supreme Court effectively recognised Scientology as a religion in a landmark judgment which established that it is not necessary to worship a god or gods to constitute a religion.

    In the asylum case lawyers did not have to establish atheism as a “religion” because it was clear that any risk he faced would be of a religious nature.

    But his solicitor, Sheona York, said it nonetheless underlined the significance of atheism as a distinct “philosophical position”.

    The man’s case to the Home Office was prepared by Claire Splawn, a second year law student at the University of Kent, under the supervision of Ms York, through the Kent Law Clinic, a partnership between students, academics and solicitors and local lawyers.

    She said: “We argued that an atheist should be entitled to protection from persecution on the grounds of their belief in the same way as a religious person is protected.”

    Ms York added: “We believe that this is the first time that a person has been granted asylum in this country on the basis of their atheism

    “The decision represents an important recognition that a lack of religious belief is in itself a thoughtful and seriously-held philosophical position.”

    In the submission they explained that having lived in Britain for several years and adopted western customs and dress, the young man feared that even were he to disguise his atheism in Afghanistan it would quickly be discovered.

    It says that the application was made on the basis that: “As an atheist, if returned to Afghanistan, he will face persecution for a Convention reason, namely (lack of) religion; or alternatively that he faces a substantial risk of serious harm on account of his lack of religious beliefs”

    It adds: “Afghanistan is a Muslim dominated country where religion underpins every aspect of everyday life.

    “Furthermore, in Afghanistan, and even in Kabul, life is lived in such a way that everyone is connected with everyone else.

    “There is no sense of privacy and his lack of beliefs would become very quickly known. “It is clear hat the applicant fears for his life in Afghanistan where he is not only non-Muslim but does not in fact believe in any religion.”

    It goes on to explain how the man had recently made a visit to another predominantly Muslim country, to visit friends, and had been “shocked” by how his lack of belief made him stand out.

    “He was shocked by how everyone talked as if life meant nothing to them,” it says.

    “People said ‘this is not the only world’ and that you have to believe. People said ‘you cannot sit and eat with people who are not Muslim’.

    “He noticed that to the people he met, this life meant nothing to them and all their expectations were focused on the other world, life after death.”

    A Home Office spokesman said: "The UK has a proud history of granting asylum to those who need it and we consider every application on a case by case basis.”


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    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #5 - January 19, 2014, 12:46 PM

    I wonder if he will ever make it here to the CEMB website. Or maybe he is already a member?

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #6 - January 19, 2014, 01:28 PM

    The sad thing is they have to flee their country to begin with.  Good to know we've brought freedom to their country....
  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #7 - January 19, 2014, 01:58 PM

    I'm sincerely happy for this lad.

    But - what happens if an ex-Muslim suddenly becomes an ex-ex-Muslim ? Tongue

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #8 - January 19, 2014, 04:04 PM

    This is a little troubling.

    If his lack of belief has earned him leave to remain, he could at least profess it openly in a secular society.

    Having your cake and eating it. And scope for abusing the ruling.


    This.

    how fuck works without shit??


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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #9 - January 20, 2014, 07:01 PM

    This is a little troubling.

    If his lack of belief has earned him leave to remain, he could at least profess it openly in a secular society.

    Having your cake and eating it. And scope for abusing the ruling.

     

    They should have made the guy drink beer and eat pork while stomping on the Quran to prove his ex muslimness.

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #10 - January 21, 2014, 12:50 AM

    That would be interesting. Why not? There is a Shahada statement, is there not a thread on here for the ex-Shahada statement...

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  • Afghan atheist to get asylum in Britain on religious grounds
     Reply #11 - January 23, 2014, 09:09 PM

    Nah, that sounds pretty dumb.

    how fuck works without shit??


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