Why is it that in every other post of yours you seem to bring up another science in the quran/hadith claim, when it's shown to you why it's bullshit, you move on to the next one and say 'but what about this..?'. Only one of these claims has to be wrong for the quran not to be divine, how many have you asked about and been shown the real events. Also, if you want to be Muslim, be Muslim. I don't see what's stopping you, why do you need people to scientifically confirm the faith or disprove every aspect?
Nothing I want less than to be a muslim, so I don't wish to be one and try to desperately find evidence for it through science.
Now, I have gotten a lot of information about the scientific "miracles" of Islam and I'm seriously thankful for it, it has helped me very much to cope with anxiety. That being said, when
happymurtad explained the thing about 'noor' I believed it but now that I got arguments from the muslim side why 'noor' actually means reflected light, I would like to get some more arguments from skeptics side. So I'm not just repeating the same stuff but I'm bringing the claims up when I receive some "counter-refutation to refutations of skeptics".
There's two things with the noor in the Quran.
either argument 1:
1. Quran describes the moon with noor, which only means reflected light thus including scientific knowledge.
2. Allah is also reflection of light like halogen lamp, therefore Allah can also be noor
3. It chooses perfect word for moon and it doesn't contradict being of Allah
4. Such knowledge existed already but it's not obvious that illiterate arab from Mecca without education or background in science knew such a thing
or argument 2:
1. Quran describes moon as noor which is word meaning just light overall while making clear with the word used for light of sun that it produces it's own light
2. It makes clear difference between light of the sun and light of the moon
3. Such knowledge existed already but it's not obvious that illiterate arab from Mecca without education or background in science knew such a thing
He's stated before that he wants to be completely certain that Islam isn't true, which isn't totally practical given how there will always be the faith component barring someone from 100% certainty but I can't say I don't understand. Also, going through all the different claims works well for the benefit of those reading who suffer from similar doubts.
Keep asking away, Siunaa, but bear in mind Arolti is of course right (wrt underlined), unless you're willing to entertain the idea that the Qur'an has been corrupted.
Well, you understand my stand quite well. 100% is over exaggeration but yeah, I would like to have more of Islamic claims refuted until I can live and die without fear of hell.
I ask many stupid questions frequently.
I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
So forgive me and answer me
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