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 Topic: What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?

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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     OP - March 02, 2014, 03:36 AM
    Of course, this is based on the assumption that they need reform.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #1 - March 02, 2014, 04:47 AM
    Basal is forming or belonging to a bottom layer or base i.e. "basal epidermal cells". Do you mean biased or is there something I'm not getting?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #2 - March 02, 2014, 04:00 PM
    Hi Quod, the basal assumptions are generally referenced as the three following assumptions:

    1) I assume that the universe exists.
    2) We can learn from the universe.
    3) Models with predictive capability are more useful than models without predictive capability.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #3 - March 02, 2014, 04:09 PM
    You might find this interesting:

    Presuppositionalism & Properly Basic Beliefs
    by Ozymandias Ramses II
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ZPjd9J6vE
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #4 - March 02, 2014, 04:13 PM
    I will definitely watch it, thanks Smiley

    The first minute has already got me hooked.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #5 - March 02, 2014, 10:45 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on March 02, 2014, 03:36 AM
    Of course, this is based on the assumption that they need reform.

    Quote from: Qtian on March 02, 2014, 04:00 PM
    Hi Quod, the basal assumptions are generally referenced as the three following assumptions:

    1) I assume that the universe exists.
    2) We can learn from the universe.
    3) Models with predictive capability are more useful than models without predictive capability.

    Ok, say you want to make adjustments. You can get either of:

    1a) I assume the universe doesn't exist, or
    1b) I assume I don't have a clue whether the universe exists or not.

    and:

    2a) We cannot learn from the universe, or
    2b) We have no idea if we can learn from the universe or not.

    and:

    3a) Models with predictive capability are not more useful than models without predictive capability, or
    3b) I have NFI if models with predictive capability are more useful, or not, than models without predictive capability.

    Which adjustments do you want, and what are you going to do with them?

    (assuming you live long enough to implement them, which is unlikely if you aren't prepared to learn from the universe)

    Note that 3a) and 3b) are analogous to saying that science and engineering don't work, or that you don't know if science and engineering work or not.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #6 - March 03, 2014, 03:53 AM
    Hi Osmanthus, interesting selection Tongue
    My reformations of the assumptions would be something along these lines:

    1) I assume that the universe exists.
    1*) I assume that the world that I can observe exists.

    I don't see a drastic need to edit the other assumptions.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #7 - March 03, 2014, 06:16 AM
    The world you can observe is part of the universe, yes? So how is the change useful?
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #8 - March 03, 2014, 07:15 AM
    Quote from: Qtian on March 03, 2014, 03:53 AM
    Hi Osmanthus, interesting selection Tongue
    My reformations of the assumptions would be something along these lines:

    1) I assume that the universe exists.
    1*) I assume that the world that I can observe exists.

    But everyone operates as though more than what we can observe exists. We cannot escape that assumption. We don't even literally make that assumption. We function and take it for granted.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #9 - March 03, 2014, 02:09 PM
    Fair enough, I appreciate that. I just wanted to clarify that I observe through my senses.  However, I now see that it was already inferred.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #10 - March 03, 2014, 02:13 PM
    Do you guys think that it's worth making a YT video on the peanut butter argument?
    It would most likely be for satire purposes.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #11 - March 03, 2014, 02:20 PM
    What view do you guys take with reference to the basal assumptions and anthropocentrism?
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #12 - March 03, 2014, 08:33 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on March 03, 2014, 02:13 PM
    Do you guys think that it's worth making a YT video on the peanut butter argument?
    It would most likely be for satire purposes.

    For satire purposes perhaps.
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  • What adjustments would you make to the basal assumptions?
     Reply #13 - March 03, 2014, 08:43 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on March 03, 2014, 02:20 PM
    What view do you guys take with reference to the basal assumptions and anthropocentrism?

    I view anthropocentrism to be the most unfortunate and destructive conviction of human kind. An obscene mutant belief made of arrogance, ignorance and short-sightedness.
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