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  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #150 - March 05, 2014, 12:46 PM
    This is an awesome display of automated Islamospambottery. Smiley

    SAM I AM, I regret to inform you that you are in danger of failing the Turing Test. Please revise your approach. Kthnx.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #151 - March 05, 2014, 12:59 PM
    osmanthus..

    What is it?

    Is there anything wrong with my own thoughts, own words and own ideas...rather than borrowed people's ideas
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #152 - March 05, 2014, 01:01 PM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

    Quote
    The Turing test is a test of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behaviour equivalent to, or indistinguishable from, that of a human. In the original illustrative example, a human judge engages in natural language conversations with a human and a machine designed to generate performance indistinguishable from that of a human being. All participants are separated from one another. If the judge cannot reliably tell the machine from the human, the machine is said to have passed the test.

     parrot
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #153 - March 05, 2014, 01:07 PM
     Huh?
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #154 - March 05, 2014, 01:09 PM
    My point is that you are not really engaging in conversation with anyone here. All you are doing is repeating things which make you feel good, regardless of what the other person posts. This means your behaviour appears to be more robotic than human.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #155 - March 05, 2014, 01:12 PM
     
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 01:07 PM
    Huh?

    Oh common S.A.M., you are NOT a robot., you are a wonderful guy.,

     it just happened that you being a believer you are going in to a corner  and trying to create your own god with your own ideas to replace the  one that was put in to your brain by family/culture... whatever..  I say that should be all right. Different people have different goals and different ideas on how to live their life.

    Don't believe in that Australian Aborigine out back guy .. finmad
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #156 - March 05, 2014, 01:18 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on March 05, 2014, 12:43 PM
    But we still haven't established if islam is correct. You keep missing this. Why should we care what a false religion teaches apart from learning about a glimpse of humanity?

    I see you have a little bit difficult to understand, what I talk or discuss compare with other members.

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #157 - March 05, 2014, 01:25 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on March 05, 2014, 01:09 PM
    My point is that you are not really engaging in conversation with anyone here. All you are doing is repeating things which make you feel good, regardless of what the other person posts. This means your behaviour appears to be more robotic than human.

    A poor thing that none of the them want to ask me what am I talking about..They just want to talk what was in their own brain
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #158 - March 05, 2014, 01:27 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 01:18 PM
    I see you have a little bit difficult to understand, what I talk or discuss compare with other members.



    And still, you won't show me why allah is real. Why exactly won't you say why you believe it in light of all evidence to the contrary? And no circular logic.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #159 - March 05, 2014, 01:27 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 01:25 PM
    A poor thing that none of the them want to ask me what am I talking about..They just want to talk what was in their own brain

    I've asked you over and over.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #160 - March 05, 2014, 01:36 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on March 05, 2014, 01:27 PM
    And still, you won't show me why allah is real. Why exactly won't you say why you believe it in light of all evidence to the contrary? And no circular logic.

    You want a 'short cut" to know who is Allah. When I said, "our mom is a Creator (Allah) or woman is a radiance of Allah... You hardly to accept it..

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #161 - March 05, 2014, 01:39 PM

    So my mom is Allah?  Cheesy
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #162 - March 05, 2014, 01:42 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 01:36 PM
    You want a 'short cut" to know who is Allah. When I said, "our mom is a Creator (Allah) or woman is a radiance of Allah... You hardly to accept it..



    How very pagan of you. Afro
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #163 - March 05, 2014, 01:42 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 12:39 PM
    ELOHIM, YHWH, ADONAI, JEHOVAH, GOD, FATHER etc If Yes, and then what is it?


    Elohim is a Canaanite God and later deity of the north Kingdoms. YHWH is his son in the Canaanite religion and deity of the southern Kigndom. These figures were later combined into one figure. The true name of the Christian God is Paul.  Tongue

    You can claim all these names of "God" are the same figure based on a few attributes but this does nothing to confirm these figures are the same being. Quod eats food, Quod likes music, Quod is a nice guy. I have all these attributes as well so Quod must be me. Call me Quodart! If I wanted to I could retrofit a number of "Gods" into an oversimplification linking many figures into one despite any doctrine and dogma discrepancies.
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #164 - March 05, 2014, 01:52 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on March 05, 2014, 01:42 PM
    How very pagan of you. Afro

    When I wrote:

    Allah is arrogant and pompous..

    That's the reason He made the line (terms and conditions) to know Him exist.

    You see..no one bother to asking me.. Why I said, Allah is arrogant and pompous... grin12

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #165 - March 05, 2014, 01:54 PM
    The allah being woman/mother part is pagan of you. That was clearly what I quoted and responded to.

    Anyway, you've already said there is no allah. Welcome, S.A.M. the murtad. Smiley
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #166 - March 05, 2014, 02:04 PM
    Quote from: bogart on March 05, 2014, 01:42 PM
    Elohim is a Canaanite God and later deity of the north Kingdoms. YHWH is his son in the Canaanite religion and deity of the southern Kigndom. These figures were later combined into one figure. The true name of the Christian God is Paul.  Tongue

     You're funny...God is Paul... Cheesy
    Quote
    You can claim all these names of "God" are the same figure based on a few attributes but this does nothing to confirm these figures are the same being. Quod eats food, Quod likes music, Quod is a nice guy. I have all these attributes as well so Quod must be me. Call me Quodart! If I wanted to I could retrofit a number of "Gods" into an oversimplification linking many figures into one despite any doctrine and dogma discrepancies.

    Supreme Being actually does not have the name but need the name so that people know that He exists. So no matter whatever good names is given as long as humans know that Supreme Being exists.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #167 - March 05, 2014, 02:07 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 11:39 AM
    I agree there is no God

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #168 - March 05, 2014, 02:16 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on March 05, 2014, 01:54 PM
    the allah being woman/mother part is pagan of you. That was clearly what I quoted and responded to.

    Anyway, you've already said there is no allah. Welcome, S.A.M. the murtad. Smiley

    You know I am free to make mocking of Allah if I want to. Why, because I know Allah ain't no gut to punish me. And also I know Allah loves me very much..like all prophets.. grin12
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #169 - March 05, 2014, 02:53 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 02:04 PM
    You're funny...God is Paul... :DSupreme Being actually does not have the name but need the name so that people know that He exists. So no matter whatever good names is given as long as humans know that Supreme Being exists.


    I just had to play on the over-reliance of Paul's work for mainstream Christianity especially the foundation of divine inspiration of forged works once attributed to him.

    There is another conclusion. Many people have formed ideas about "God(s)" be it a single or multiple personas as with Hinduism or Christianity. There are version of polytheism be it multiple independent entities or a form of henotheism. All our positive value assessments of ideas have been repeated within many or one figure depending on the religion. "God" is just, love, righteous, etc. The negative values are personified in one or more entities of evil; greed, envy, lust, etc. So we, humans, have created in monotheism a paragon and a rival based solely on value assessments. In other religions these values are shared or divided between many figures or delegated to underlings. Even within monotheism angels fill minor roles which makes angel minor deities in a the same way as those found in Greek religion. We have created our own figures of good and evil as representations of our values. So we have created "God/gods" to justify an emotion appeal and scripture to reinforce it. It helps maintain local to regional cohesion and social norms within many cultures, especially in an era which lacked an alternative similar to nationalism we see today.
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #170 - March 05, 2014, 04:01 PM
    Quote from: INcePtion on March 05, 2014, 01:39 PM
    So my mom is Allah?  Cheesy

    INcePtion try that., Tell your mom.,   "hey mom you are Allah to me" and tell me her reaction..

    Well,  at best she will hug and kiss you and at worst she will cane your ass ...,  Cheesy  So be prepared for both and in the middle she may cook you good dinner ....  that is also nice.,  So what is there to loose??  go for it..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Adam - the first human?
     Reply #171 - March 05, 2014, 04:08 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 07:51 AM
    Your brain objected because you do not have enough knowledge to know what I'm saying.

    You're on your own there. Nobody apart from you thinks that is what is transpiring in this discussion. The notion that you are displaying superior knowledge is either a personal delusion of yours or an epic overestimation of your ability to argue a case.

    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 07:51 AM
    Firstly, we need to know Allah exist and bear a witness with our own eyes La Ilaha Ila Lah "Nothing exists except Allah"  before we can accept Islam is a true religion and Quran..Book of Allah is word of Him.

    The existence of your god is not yet in evidence. Any further claims you make that rely on your god existing are inadmissible. Until you, at the very least, put forward some kind of compelling argumentation for its existence, any other arguments based on that premise are gonna be found totally redundant. Without evidence or argumentation, you have nothing to bargain with. You can't possibly expect your critics to commit to the same belief as you when the tenability of that belief is the very thing being disputed.

    Quote from: S.A.M on March 05, 2014, 01:25 PM
    A poor thing that none of the them want to ask me what am I talking about..They just want to talk what was in their own brain

    That's not true. It's just that good questions, which would expose the weaknesses of your position if you answered them, are completely ignored by you. Instead of an answer, you respond with some barely related, barely intelligible, shallow religious happy talk.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #172 - March 05, 2014, 04:13 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 05, 2014, 04:08 PM
    The existence of your god is not yet in evidence. Any further claims you make that rely on your god existing are inadmissible. Until you, at the very least, put forward some kind of compelling argumentation for its existence, any other arguments based on that premise are gonna be found totally redundant. Without evidence or argumentation, you have nothing to bargain with. You can't possibly expect your critics to commit to the same belief as you when the tenability of that belief is the very thing being disputed.

    Who knows, maybe if someone says it apart from me it'll penetrate.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #173 - March 05, 2014, 04:30 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on March 04, 2014, 07:45 PM
    Religion of Islam belong to Allah not Muhammad. Allah already provide evidence of proves to you Islam is a true religion.

    Please show us the "evidence".
    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #174 - March 05, 2014, 09:33 PM
    Quote from: bogart on March 05, 2014, 02:53 PM
    I just had to play on the over-reliance of Paul's work for mainstream Christianity especially the foundation of divine inspiration of forged works once attributed to him.

    There is another conclusion. Many people have formed ideas about "God(s)" be it a single or multiple personas as with Hinduism or Christianity. There are version of polytheism be it multiple independent entities or a form of henotheism. All our positive value assessments of ideas have been repeated within many or one figure depending on the religion. "God" is just, love, righteous, etc. The negative values are personified in one or more entities of evil; greed, envy, lust, etc. So we, humans, have created in monotheism a paragon and a rival based solely on value assessments. In other religions these values are shared or divided between many figures or delegated to underlings. Even within monotheism angels fill minor roles which makes angel minor deities in a the same way as those found in Greek religion. We have created our own figures of good and evil as representations of our values. So we have created "God/gods" to justify an emotion appeal and scripture to reinforce it. It helps maintain local to regional cohesion and social norms within many cultures, especially in an era which lacked an alternative similar to nationalism we see today.

    The advantage of us as human beings is freedom of thought. As with human freedom may think whim so we humans always can do wrong and improper conduct in daily life. As well as ourselves to God that which humans can mistakenly. We humans actually live full of arrogant and claimed to be intelligent and also forget ourselves who we are.

    Because humans are easily forget themselves then God need religion to be guidelines and guidance in our lives through His Prophet or Messenger..
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #175 - March 05, 2014, 09:37 PM
    SAM I AM: do you understand what this means?

    Quote from: Ishina on March 05, 2014, 04:08 PM
    The existence of your god is not yet in evidence. Any further claims you make that rely on your god existing are inadmissible. Until you, at the very least, put forward some kind of compelling argumentation for its existence, any other arguments based on that premise are gonna be found totally redundant. Without evidence or argumentation, you have nothing to bargain with. You can't possibly expect your critics to commit to the same belief as you when the tenability of that belief is the very thing being disputed.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #176 - March 05, 2014, 09:38 PM
    Quote from: Ram on March 05, 2014, 04:30 PM
    Please show us the "evidence".

     parrot
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #177 - March 05, 2014, 09:39 PM
    Quote from: Ram on March 05, 2014, 04:30 PM
    Please show us the "evidence".

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    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #178 - March 05, 2014, 09:42 PM
    Once was enough. Tongue
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Adam - the first human?
     Reply #179 - March 05, 2014, 09:49 PM
    Obviously not.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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