BBC 'Free Speech' show censors gay muslim after 'concerns' from mosque
Reply #29 - March 16, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jesus only preached to the Jews so the Law still applies. So in this context the verse is valid. The OT itself, and old covenant, was only for the Israelites. At this time only being a Jew would get your into heaven. Every other nation or people were either impure or fallen this is laid out in the 5 Books of Moses. This is also part of what disqualifies Mo as being a Prophet but that is another discussion. The Fall from Grace, Adam & Eve, the Tower of Babel, the polytheists, idolaters, etc, are examples. In Matthew 15:22-24 Jesus plainly says he is here for Israeli, the people of Jacob, not the Gentiles. He even orders the 12 apostles not to preach to them, do not even go to their communities. So the Law is upheld for those it was intended for, Israeli. After Jesus' death Paul has his vision from Jesus in which he is ordered to preach the Word to the Gentiles. Paul is not one of the 12 apostles so one could argue that Matthew 15:22-24 only applies to the 12 but not Paul. So Paul was the one to spread the Word to the Gentiles. Now as Paul spread the Word in hellenized areas north of Israeli proper he ran into this very issue. Does the old covenant apply to non-Jews. The diet, circumcision, etc. This is how the conflict between old vs new started. Paul compromised the strict application of all Law on the Gentiles. The Moral Law stands. The Judaical Law can be or not be applied, nothing is lost or gained by either. The Ceremonial Law shifted from strict Temple functionaries to God and Heaven itself. The need a temple or altar was deemed to be material thus was not a priority is how one follows God. In fact directly following God was seen as superior than any use of a religious object be it a temple, altar, etc. The Council of Jerusalem was created to resolve this conflict between these two views. The result being Gentiles are not require to follow the Law while Christian-Jews were required. The view was a Gentile did not need to follow the other 2 Laws if it compromised their faith or cause people not to accept the Word and become Christian. Of course these rules are entirely based on if one accepts Divine Inspiration; Paul's work, Revelation, Peter's work, etc. "DI" is required for Christianity just as much as the hadith or the memorization traditions are for Islam.
Strictly follow the apologists reasoning for these issues not my own views.
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