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 Topic: Zeus is back!!

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  • Zeus is back!!
     OP - July 05, 2014, 06:50 PM

    Hellenists push for acceptance and official recognition of their religion in Greece,

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22972610

    Unintentionally ironic quote of the piece from a Greek Orthodox church official describes the Hellenists as:

    "a handful of miserable resuscitators of a degenerate dead religion".



     Cheesy

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #1 - July 05, 2014, 07:37 PM

    For a split second i thought it read Jesus is back  mysmilie_977
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #2 - July 05, 2014, 07:48 PM

    Here is one of their websites.

    http://www.ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq

    They regularly refer to the Greek Orthodox church and Xtianity as 'the Nazarenes' and claim they are a fake religion imposed over the Greeks, which is probably true.

    So if you use Zeus or other gods in your arguments with theists, and they respond with "well no-one believes in those gods anymore" you can just fling them this website and you have disproved their claim.

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #3 - July 05, 2014, 07:55 PM

    "We do not just strive for a superficial return to the 'ancient ways', but on the contrary, for the return of a different kind of person, Hellenic Man, who will be governed by humanistic values, as were first expressed and exhibited by our ancestors. A type of man who will journey on the path of Virtue.

     We struggle for the humanization of today's savage society, based on eternal Hellenic values and principles that lead man to the creation of civilization, spiritual cultivation, wide-ranging interests and tolerance. This will make him a worthy companion of the Gods.
    "

    Sounds good so far.




    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #4 - July 05, 2014, 07:58 PM

    For a split second i thought it read Jesus is back  mysmilie_977


    I fucking hope not.


    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #5 - July 05, 2014, 08:06 PM

    From the FAQs:

    "Christianity has great moral messages, what does your religion offer?"
    The few instances where Christianity shows some spirituality are no more than crude, unsophisticated copies of the moral values first espoused by our philosophers in ancient Hellas.
     The remaining Christian teachings lack any real moral content, unless religious intolerance, fanaticism, religiosity, guilt and contempt for spiritual cultivation can be considered as such.

     Similarly, Christianity lacks any spiritual value that is equal to that of the Ethnic Hellenic religion, unless by this we mean rote learning of psalms, humiliation, insulting Democracy as 'Civitas Diaboli', exhortations to 'love!' (in the imperative mood) and slogans such as 'Orthodoxy or Death!'


    ....and.....

    "You are ungrateful! Jesus was crucified for our sins!"
    To begin with, we Ethnikoi Hellenes are not burdened by some ancestral sin and our philosophers have securely guided us, with dignity, on the path of Virtue. We therefore have no need for someone to act on, or indeed against, our behalf, let alone to be 'sacrificed' for us.

     In addition, Yeshua's supposed 'sacrifice on our behalf', that Christian propaganda rams down our throats, is an absurd story. If the abovementioned Judaean rabbi (Jesus) was indeed 'God', then his crucifixion would be no more than a meaningless prank, as by definition only what is perishable and mortal can be sacrificed.

     On the other hand, the philosopher Socrates, whose existence is an historical fact, conquered death and with frankness and serenity did not avoid it, even though he could. Not from a desire to sacrifice himself nor because he wanted a martyr's end, but as a living example of respect for the Law. And this despite knowing that he was a mere mortal. The philosopher Epictetus characteristically wrote: ". They may kill me, but they cannot cause me harm"."


    I think that is what you call a  Hitchslap!

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #6 - July 05, 2014, 08:09 PM

    When i learned about it at school, i never understood why beliefs of ancient Greeks or Romans are called "mythology" while christianity, islam, hinduism etc. are called "religions". Why are they less respected than believing in Mo flying on his horse to heaven, a god with the head of an elephant or Jesus walking on water?
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #7 - July 05, 2014, 08:14 PM

    You got it Ex-muslimah. Afro

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #8 - July 05, 2014, 08:23 PM

    Mythology is when people no longer believe in it. Religion is just active belief in mythology.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #9 - July 05, 2014, 08:25 PM

    Imagine if these Hellenists took a leaf out of radical Islam's book.

    Things that could be attacked for blaspheming the Greek gods.

    NASA (Apollo space mission)
    Athena posters
    Hermes handbags
    Nike sportswear
    Olympus cameras
    Trident nuclear missiles
    Ajax kitchen cleaner
    the film Prometheus.
    The Olympics (quote below):
    "We (Hellenists) are opposed to such games, because they are falsely named and have no relationship with the authentic and living spirit of our ancestors, the true Hellenes. ......The majority of them were monotheists, ignorant of the real essence of the Games (i.e., their religious nature). Today they are a vulgar commercialization that profoundly insults the symbols and beliefs of our ancestors"

    Ask any Abrahamic theist what he/she would think if Hellenists started attacking embassies, violent protests, demanding bans on innocuous names or symbols, for any of the above. I bet you they would say this is silly. Tu Quoque fallacy anyone?

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #10 - July 05, 2014, 08:26 PM

    Mythology is when people no longer believe in it. Religion is just active belief in mythology.


    NAILED IT!!! Afro

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #11 - July 06, 2014, 08:20 AM

    My 11 year old son will be happy.  Cheesy

    The only time he has ever argued with his dad, and refused to see his dad for awhile, was over Zeus. 

    His father ridiculed his argument that if Allah existed (since his dad was ranting religion) that Zeus could just as easily exist (which is a fair argument to me lol), and my son went ballistic, and refused to see his dad again.

    My son loves Greek mythology and Egyptian, so now he can use this if he ever argues the same again.  Grin


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #12 - July 06, 2014, 12:25 PM

    There's as much proof for their religion as there is for any other.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #13 - July 06, 2014, 02:03 PM

    What a wonderful religion it would be if it were true. Zeus coming to Earth and making love to women. If they don't want to they will be raped. If they agree they will suffer the wrath of Hera. Way to go civilisation under the Hellenic religion!
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #14 - July 06, 2014, 02:08 PM

    For some odd reason, I used to think Allah looked like Zeus, holding a golden trident instead of a lightning bolt.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #15 - July 06, 2014, 02:11 PM

    polytheism as a story and narrative is so much more fun than monotheism

    The funny thing is that monotheists think that polytheism is absurd, whereas monotheism is totally true and rational and proven

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #16 - July 06, 2014, 02:14 PM

    At least I think they were not seen as perfect.
  • Re: Zeus is back!!
     Reply #17 - July 06, 2014, 02:37 PM

    ........I used to think Allah looked like Zeus, holding a golden trident instead of a lightning bolt.


    Where as I think Allah looks like these ..

         


    Well if I put all the pictures how allah looks.. it will run in to many folders..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #18 - July 06, 2014, 03:32 PM

    By any chance are you a pantheist Yeezevee? I think those people believe that this whole universe is or is part of God.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #19 - July 06, 2014, 03:33 PM

    It's good to see my Nepu in such a large size. She soothes my eyes <3.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #20 - July 06, 2014, 03:45 PM

    By any chance are you a pantheist Yeezevee? I think those people believe that this whole universe is or is part of God.

    No..No I am not a PANTING GUY .. I just blurt out and just life.. evolved life..   .......... I am Zebra by birth.,..................

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #21 - July 06, 2014, 10:40 PM

    What a wonderful religion it would be if it were true. Zeus coming to Earth and making love to women. If they don't want to they will be raped. If they agree they will suffer the wrath of Hera. Way to go civilisation under the Hellenic religion!


    Obviously Zeus has a divine plan that is WAY above our tiny brains so I am sure this rape would be good cos Zeus is omnibenevolent so its actually a privilege to have been raped by Zeus, either that or you are misinterpreting the text, or you need to go read it over again until you can convince yourself that this is actually a good rape, and cos it would not be real rape but 'spiritual rape' just like wot Yahweh dun in the bible to Mary.

    How am I doing? Apologetics is so easy.

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #22 - July 07, 2014, 08:35 AM

    Where as I think Allah looks like these ..

    (Clicky for piccy!)(Clicky for piccy!) (Clicky for piccy!)  (Clicky for piccy!)   (Clicky for piccy!)


    Well if I put all the pictures how allah looks.. it will run in to many folders..

    Good to see I'm the biggest. INcePtion is second biggest. She will be my Queen.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #23 - July 07, 2014, 09:22 AM

    It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean.

    Just remember that you sizest.   Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #24 - July 07, 2014, 12:01 PM

    My avatar is still the biggest. Tongue

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #25 - July 07, 2014, 12:06 PM

    Quote
    Good to see I'm the biggest. INcePtion is second biggest. She will be my Queen.

    It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean.

    Just remember that you sizest.   Tongue


    Hmm I need  to learn this technique of tying legs and hands of some people in this forum..

    Let me go and  buy some dolls..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #26 - July 07, 2014, 06:14 PM

    My avatar is the cutest and it was chosen because the hilariousness of the goggles will make people smile. So I am the best out there :p.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #27 - July 07, 2014, 06:31 PM

    It looks like two scoops of ice cream with legs and goggles to me  wacko
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #28 - July 07, 2014, 06:58 PM

    Yes but it is three scoops of ice-cream. Her arms and legs are made of biscuit. I thought that you guys will find her large vintage goggles hilarious.

    She is Napoli the apple of my eyes.
  • Zeus is back!!
     Reply #29 - July 07, 2014, 11:21 PM

    If they're bringing back Zeus, will they bring back blood sacrifices, burning of meat to appease the Olympian gods and pouring of wine as libations? That's a waste of perfectly good barbecue material Cheesy

    I'm not sure why bringing back a fantasy sky fairy - even a badass one like Zeus - means anything. They should focus on the good bits of ancient Greek philosophy while cutting out the racism, sexism and superstition.
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