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  • The Kaffir lime - Time to change its name
     OP - July 09, 2014, 07:41 PM

    I found this quite interesting when it popped up in my newsfeed on facebook, and even before I clicked the title which didn't mention the name of the fruit that was considered racist/offensive in the preview on facebook, but even before I clicked it I knew it would be this fruit they were talking about, since its name always struck me as seriously odd.

    I know the focus of the article is about its derogatory use towards black south africans, but for me, it's the association with unbeliever that always stood out to me, especially given that the term as it used now, traces back to the term as it used towards unbelievers:

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    There’s a kind of lime that’s used in Thai and other Southeast Asian cuisines that lends a bright, intense punch to various types of curries and similar dishes. Plenty sets the fruit apart from the one you might put on the edge of a Corona this holiday weekend—it has bumpy, highly fragrant skin and pungent leaves that are also used in cooking. Then there’s this: The English name for the fruit is so toxic in South Africa that simply uttering it can open someone up to legal action.

    It’s the Kaffir lime we’re talking about, a variety that’s native to a broad swath of South and Southeast Asia, from India to Malaysia. But no one calls it that there. Were you to inquire about the ingredients in a limy dish served in Bangkok, you’d be told that the intense flavor came from a makrut lime. None of the countries to which the lime is native call it by the name we do, and as the fruit has become more widely available in the United States, some, such as the Twitter feed @KaffirNoMore, are saying its time to banish the K-word—which in South Africa is the equivalent of the N-word.

    #kaffir = n*gger in S Africa. #KaffirLimes given its name b/c non-white workers used them to cook. Call these limes #Makrut #stopracism

    — Kaffir-means-N-word (@KaffirNoMore) June 21, 2014

    While awareness is on the rise, this isn’t a new linguistic problem. David Karp, the fruit detective, explained the problem and its roots in language and immigration in The New York Times back in 2004—when you were likely spending your social media time adding animated flames to a MySpace profile, not tweeting about race.

    The fruit's name, however, remains problematic, because "kaffir," originally an Arabic word for unbeliever, is used by whites in South Africa as a derogatory term for blacks. The name "kaffir lime" derives from Asia rather than South Africa, perhaps from Indian Muslims who encountered the fruit as an import from Thailand and Sri Lanka, where non-Muslims predominated. Nevertheless, the term is offensive to some, and the Thai name, "makrut," is sometimes used as a substitute.

    Not only are we dealing with racist overtones—the slur is xenophobic too. So maybe it's time for Thai-takeout-loving America to embrace the makrut lime.

    http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/07/03/lime-racist?cmpid=tp-ptnr-upworthy



    Interesting right?

    I always wondered why they called it a Kaffir lime, but never wondered enough to go off and find out where the word originated from.  Given its overtones, and etymology, it does seem like it's time to toss the label away.

    Thoughts?

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  • The Kaffir lime - Time to change its name
     Reply #1 - July 09, 2014, 10:01 PM

    Ok, so the rest of the world has to worry about South Africa's history with apartheid?

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  • The Kaffir lime - Time to change its name
     Reply #2 - July 09, 2014, 10:39 PM

    kaffir lime racist murky origins

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  • The Kaffir lime - Time to change its name
     Reply #3 - July 09, 2014, 11:06 PM

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    This theory suggests that the name’s roots lie closer to the original Arabic meaning of kafir than to the 20th-century racial slur, although of course the term’s potentially benign origins don’t invalidate modern-day concerns about the word’s offensiveness.

    ROFL. Because of course the Arabic usage of the word isn't at all offensive to anyone. Tongue

    Anyway, the obvious question now is are the Kaffirs in Sri Lanka supposed to change their name too? Just wondering.

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