Hamed Abdel Samad on Islam was Fascist before Fascism was termed

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OP - July 28, 2014, 12:03 AM

http://youtu.be/WklOrjxdEIs

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Reply #1 - July 28, 2014, 12:30 AM

I understand what he is saying but most won't which is why I don't think it is helpful using words like fascism. As the interviewer himself says: "That means all Muslims follow a totalitarian system" - of course Hamed Abdel Samad answers "No, of course not."

But that's exactly how many will read his book - which is why I don't believe using such terms is helpful to anyone apart from raving bigots.
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Reply #2 - July 28, 2014, 12:35 AM

Quote from: Revengeance on July 28, 2014, 12:03 AM
http://youtu.be/WklOrjxdEIs

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Hello Revengeance., very few people know about him.. It is good to add a bit of his story., So let me add his English tube.. and a bit of his story..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g872fwpSqm4

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Hamed Abdel-Samad (Arabic: حامد عبد الصمد‎, IPA: [ˈħæːmed ʕæbdesˈsˤɑmɑd]; born in 1972 in Gizeh, Egypt) is a German-Egyptian political scientist, historian and author. bdel-Samad was born as the third of five children, the son of a Sunni Imam. At the age of four he was raped by a 15-year-old, at the age of eleven by a five-member group of young people in a cemetery.[1] Abdel-Samad came to Germany in 1995 at the age of 23. He soon married an 18 years older, "rebellious, left-wing teacher with a penchant for mysticism." Abdel-Samad studied English and French in Cairo as well as political science in Augsburg.

He worked as a scholar in Erfurt and Braunschweig. In Japan, where he was involved with eastern spirituality, he met his second wife. He taught and conducted research until the end of 2009 at the Institute for Jewish History and Culture at the University of Munich (dissertation topic: "Image of the Jews in Egyptian textbooks”).

Subsequently he decided to become a full-time professional writer. Abdel-Samad became known to the German public through his book Mein Abschied vom Himmel (My Farewell from Heaven) (2009). It is neither a settlement with his culture, nor a call to abandon the Muslim faith. According to Abdel-Samad, he just wanted to understand the contradictions of his life.[1] Following the book’s publication in Egypt a group issued a fatwa against Abdel-Samad and he was put under police protection...

And Revengeance., I have not read many of your posts so welcome to CEMB..

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Reply #3 - July 28, 2014, 12:38 AM

Quote from: Abu Ali on July 28, 2014, 12:30 AM
I understand what he is saying but most won't which is why I don't think it is helpful using words like fascism. As the interviewer himself says: "That means all Muslims follow a totalitarian system" - of course Hamed Abdel Samad answers "No, of course not."

He used that word for POLITICAL ISLAM.. not for Muslims..

this book Inner lives of Cultures is very interesting., In that Hamed Samad writes a chapter on Egyptian Islamic culture.. That is a pdf file of that book...

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Reply #4 - July 28, 2014, 06:52 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on July 28, 2014, 12:35 AM

And Revengeance., I have not read many of your posts so welcome to CEMB..

Thank you yeezevee,
i have joined a while back but i was to busy enjoying life as a fully fledged kafer,

Now im back for ramadan with my parents so i must pretend to fast. Decided to do some reading watching on quran during ramadan as my parents told me too and that further made me disbelieve.

Also cemb and reddit ex muslim wont allow mh to log in due to parental controls, i must use 3g sigh
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Reply #5 - July 28, 2014, 07:57 AM

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Reply #6 - July 28, 2014, 07:58 AM

I have also found this website (been recommended) in Arabic which could be an excellent resource

http://islamexplained.com/UVG_0_ar/UVG_video_list_0_ar/TabId/90/CategoryId/5/language/ar-JO/-.aspx
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Reply #7 - July 28, 2014, 07:59 AM

Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on July 28, 2014, 07:57 AM
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Only the Login, maybe it's a problem with my router but I can just tether so I should be fine
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Reply #8 - July 28, 2014, 08:01 AM

I actually do remember you, welcome back. Glad to read you've been enjoying life.

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Reply #9 - July 28, 2014, 10:54 AM

Quote from: Revengeance on July 28, 2014, 12:03 AM
http://youtu.be/WklOrjxdEIs

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He's a very interesting writer and he makes good points, but I agree with Abu Ali, the fascism thing may obscure what he says

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Reply #10 - July 28, 2014, 01:24 PM

It's an interesting view. But I can't see the connection between Fascism and Fascism. I mean everyone was quite a bit "fascist" during those period and before.
But is he Muslim?

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Reply #11 - July 28, 2014, 01:28 PM

Quote from: ArielTi on July 28, 2014, 01:24 PM
It's an interesting view. But I can't see the connection between Fascism and Fascism. I mean everyone was quite a bit "fascist" during those period and before.
But is he Muslim?

hello ArielTi .. greetings and my good wishes to you.. And End of eid mubarak ho..

So is he Muslim? .. tell me what makes a person Muslim and how do we define a Muslim? I love to read answers from you and the readers on that

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