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 Topic: 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     OP - November 08, 2014, 09:43 AM

    Subhanallah!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgw6y3cH7tA

    This is of course a copycat of

    10 hours as walking in NYC as a Woman:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A

    Which also has created a lot of spoofs:

    10 Hours of Walking in Dublin as a Woman:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_3kidZ76xI

    Man Gets Harassed Over 30 Times in 3 Hours Walking in NYC:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InUeOWlgebM

    10 hours walking in Skyrim as a woman in skimpy armor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEAC7nl5n2g

    10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Jew
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5mmp-uwNNY

    10 Hours of Walking in NYC as Batman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb2piKgDY9k



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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #1 - November 08, 2014, 04:56 PM

    Thing is though, can't she get the same result, aka no harrassment, without the head veil as well?

    The thing is that she's was first wearing form-fitting clothing which obviously shows off your body but I'm pretty sure all she needed was the black dress/cloak without the head veil.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #2 - November 08, 2014, 05:46 PM

    the guy who made this video is Egyptian American.

    The hijab really protects women from harassment in Egypt.


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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #3 - November 08, 2014, 07:31 PM

    The weird thing is that her firm boobs awra is now all over teh Interwebs and that is Islamically a good thing? Huh?

    Or his friend is a kufar so it does not matter as she is hell-bound anyway?

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #4 - November 08, 2014, 11:47 PM

    Found this video with a little "behind the scene" - watch from 3:07:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkc0mOYfkXk&t=187s

    Karim's Facebook-post with the video - read the hijabgasms in the comments

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #5 - November 08, 2014, 11:57 PM

    that guy is a creep

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #6 - November 09, 2014, 12:09 AM

    Well I just wonder if he is married and if not, if he is a virgin and if he wants to marry a nice Musilma whom he will expect to be a virgin.

    I think the comments are more creepy than him. Like there is a couple of Danish Muslim girls who (in Danish) dislike that the guy putting the hijab on Vanessa is a non-mahram.

    Here is the model Vanessa Botea's thoughts on the project.. Less mashallahs there.

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #7 - November 09, 2014, 12:43 AM

    I was groped in a Muslim country in full abaya, no makeup. My Mahram was not immediately at my side and I was out of the house, I am sure was the rationale. But the guy actually groped every woman on that side of the street, so it was not personally about me at all. Every woman on that street was in an overcoat or abaya, no bright colors, not many in makeup, most older.
    This is bullshit, the whole video is on the wrong pretext. Of course in NYC, which is NOT a Muslim city, the reactions are going to be different. In a Muslim area covered women are still women in the eyes of the men, not nuns.
    I had problems in two Muslim countries, though the other time I did have some arm showing and I did not have the local garb. I went to the seamstress the next day.
    It is never enough. Never.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #8 - November 09, 2014, 09:57 AM

    Poor Batman. Can't go a day without being harassed.  Grin
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #9 - November 09, 2014, 10:13 AM



    I don't like the implication of this video. It's basically blaming women who are not covered head to toe for the abuse they receive rather than focussing on the men who do this as the deviants - as the original video did.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #10 - November 09, 2014, 10:52 AM

    Someone should go do a video of what it's really like to wear hijab in a western country, it doesn't protect you from abuse atall, creates it.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #11 - November 09, 2014, 11:02 AM

    only just watched the nyc hijab video, geeze whats up with ny guys lol, haven't they seen a female before, are they all desperate, she wasnt even wearing anything that tight ? wacko    such a dumb video blaming women for being leered at  :(


    Edit:  oh wait just saw the guy walking in nyc, the ny gals are just as bad lol
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #12 - November 09, 2014, 11:09 AM

    Saw that the the video has been posted by 5 pillarz. The question that should be asked to them is
    If you agree with the fact that the cause for ''islamophobic'' harassment of women who wear the hijab is bigotry,
    shouldn't you agree with the statement:
    The cause of sexual harassment of women who don't wear the hijab is misogyny.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #13 - November 09, 2014, 11:33 AM

    ^ lol the jewish version is hilarious, especially when they put him on the chair for bat mitzvah
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #14 - November 09, 2014, 12:25 PM

    How is saying 'Good evening' or 'can i have your number' or 'hello' classed as harrasment?

    Ofcourse, following someone is stalking and the guy should be collared but are you telling me that if I walked upto a girl said 'Hello' that this would be considered harrassment? Even if I walked up to her and asked if she'd like to go out sometime?


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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #15 - November 09, 2014, 12:36 PM

    It's probably considered harassment because you asked or spoke to HER, not her father.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #16 - November 09, 2014, 01:08 PM

    Here is a vlog response to the original (non-hijab) video by an African-American women who knows New York

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-8rcqPy-Lc


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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #17 - November 09, 2014, 01:45 PM

    I see the hjiab version being shared all over the place now. Subhanallah!

    I wondered if not the ex-Muslim community, in particular ex- and closeted hijabis, should make a response?

    I am pretty sure the probably good-hearted model, Vanessa Bontea, has no clue about that what she is actively helping propagate here.

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #18 - November 09, 2014, 01:47 PM

    Why did she go back to wearing western cloths if hijab is so liberating?

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #19 - November 09, 2014, 02:00 PM

    Because she can. Unlike many others.

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #20 - November 09, 2014, 02:23 PM

    How is saying 'Good evening' or 'can i have your number' or 'hello' classed as harrasment?

     

    To be fair saying  " can I have you number ? " when you haven't even had a conversation with someone is creepy as fuck.

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #21 - November 09, 2014, 02:54 PM

    I did not mean to write so much about this, but it just happened, and my deepest apologies to anyone who tries to read it:

    I have mixed feelings about the harassment thing. On one hand, I get that "hello" and the like is pretty innocuous and sometimes the person saying it is just genuinely friendly, and I love those guys. And my mother, who was all about flirting and friendliness and southern charm, taught me early to smile and say thank you to compliments and then keep moving. So that's what I do.

    But at the same time, I will have a ton of men stop me and say hi, how are you, or compliment me when I'm walking alone. If I'm walking with a girl, we might both get something like, "How're you ladies doing today?" or "Where are you off to?" If I'm walking with a guy, suddenly no one wants to be friendly. I'm pretty sure most guys here, like most men I know, have actually not had the same experience as that male model strolling through NYC, and can attest to the fact that a man can usually walk from place to place or go grocery shopping or get a coffee by himself without running into all these really friendly guys who really want to say hello as they pass on the street and ask how they're doing.

    So all of that leads me to the conclusion that most men who are friendly to me in public are not doing it because they're just friendly guys, but because I am a woman walking alone or with another woman. And, again, that's not a huge issue. I can smile and say thank you and keep walking. But sometimes, that's backfired.

    The most extreme example of it backfiring was probably when I was walking to school in Maui, and a man was sitting on the hood of his car and greeted me as I walked by, and I turned and smiled and said hello, and kept walking. He jumped up and strolled alongside me, complimenting me, and obviously emboldened by my polite reception of him, kept going. He asked me if I would like to meet up with him again sometime, and I said that I was sorry, I had so much school work, and this wasn't firm enough of a no, so again, he kept going.

    About a full mile down the road, while I was walking in front of an abandoned storefront, he actually moved in front of me and stopped me and demanded that I give him my cellphone. He promised he'd return it, that he just wants to get my number, and then he'll let me go to school, but he has to let me call him sometime because I'm so sweet and we get along great and he wants to take me on vacation to the Philippines and he'll pay for everything and I'll be spoiled and we'll have a lot of fun. I figured the best thing to do was hand over my phone, and he used it to call himself and saved his number under the name "Bamboo," and then, true to his word, he let me go.

    And while that was probably the weirdest experience I'd had humoring a heckler, there have been a ton of other bad examples, including one time where I was outright threatened by a man after I stopped and acknowledged him but then politely made some excuse as to why I couldn't spare him a moment and sit down with him on the park bench. As I was leaving, he said that he really regretted stopping me and that I should regret it, too, and said, "You parked in the parking garage, right? Just making sure." And after work my boss had to escort me back to said parking garage just in case. Grin

    There's something I really do resent when I watch the video and read comments about how terribly rude she was or how everyone was just being nice. For some of those guys, sure, they're being friendly. For others, friendliness wasn't the intention, and when they were ignored, suddenly the action was altruistic and pure and she's a total asshole for not acknowledging one of the endless encounters she had gotten just trying to walk around.

    I've unwittingly been her, too, a few times. I remember once I was walking to my car from my apartment building, and I passed a man with his phone to his ear who said, "Hey," when I got near, but I wasn't sure if he was talking to me or the person on the phone. So I smiled at him and kept walking. When he was some ways behind me, I heard him say, "No? Too good to stop and talk to me? Stuck-up bitch."

    I actually felt kind of bad, so I turned around, still smiling, and cried, "Sorry! I thought you were talking to the person on the phone." Obviously not expecting I'd respond, he kind of just froze, and I think he said something like, "Oh," or "Okay," and I got in the car and left.

    It's something about the constant barrage of encounters. It's something about the obligation to act sincerely flattered and appreciative of each person who demands a piece of your time. It's also something about being expected to accept that it is all friendliness, when you fucking know better, but you ought not to make assumptions, because then you're just being inconsiderate and rude. I do remember the first time I sat in the balcony of a masjid with the other women and knew not a single man was around to look at me, and I felt like a burden or some anxiety I'd never acknowledged was gone immediately.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #22 - November 09, 2014, 02:59 PM

    I wander if this is aim American thing.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #23 - November 09, 2014, 02:59 PM

    I do know there are countries where it is worse and countries where it is better.
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #24 - November 09, 2014, 03:06 PM

    I remember when my cousin and I went out walking in the village. She covered herself up with a large chador and still she was heckled by a man. I don't what he said but in a culture were women are covered up those showing a single strand of her, let alone, the curves of her breasts is considered fair game. One of my colleagues told me how when she was walking through Mumbai she was groped three/four times.

    What you've described is intimidation and harassment. Good thing you've got a sense of humour about it.

    @ TDR okay how about 'excuse me madam, but I am so possessed by your beauty that I simply must request your number. To say no would be to upset me greatly, but I admire a strong headed woman and shall respect your wishes should you decline my offer.'

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #25 - November 09, 2014, 03:18 PM

    Yikes. Groping luckily doesn't happen that often here  (unless I've just been exceptionally lucky?), and I can only think of a handful of times a stranger actually touched me.

    I actually don't begrudge people coming up and asking me for my number or a date. It is flattering, and, as my mother would say, I should be happy that too many people are interested than too few, although it makes me intensely anxious and I feel bad declining.  And I do understand that the world is going to be a much shittier place if it gets to the point where you can't even greet people in public or ask the cute girl at the bookstore out on a date. But as a woman in this situation, it makes doing something as simple as running to the store sometimes a more stressful event than it should be.

    I understand where women who have had enough of it are coming from. And I feel bad for the ones who do refuse to play the game and are considered rude and inconsiderate for it. Just a glance at the comments on that video is a revolting experience, and there's no shortage of ones saying that she should be happy that people even bothered to compliment her because she's not actually that pretty and didn't deserve it in the first place. How are we supposed to feel good about these compliments, again, knowing what's in store if we rush by?  Grin
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #26 - November 09, 2014, 03:22 PM

    Naw, heckling a girl in the street is rude.. Smart guys will know how to introduce themselves properly and successfully  ; )
      
    Edit: that was to i think Jedi's question..   lol i used to dress in baggy clothes so as to avoid being chatted up, i hated it ?  i'm weird lol wacko
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #27 - November 09, 2014, 03:32 PM

    Interesting stories Lua. These men are so different from myself I find their acts to be abnormal. Although I admit I am very shy so have never done anything like them in public. Heck building up towards even asking for a number take me awhile never mind asking a complete stranger for her number
  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #28 - November 09, 2014, 03:39 PM

    .

    @ TDR okay how about 'excuse me madam, but I am so possessed by your beauty that I simply must request your number. To say no would be to upset me greatly, but I admire a strong headed woman and shall respect your wishes should you decline my offer.'


    You are only to going to give her an impression that you are being desperate and also indirectly telling her that since you compliment her,you owe a number from her which will give her a reason to decline your offer. Tongue

    There is a reason why we have parties,clubs and social gatherings for all that than hit on a stranger in a street.

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  • 10 hours of walking with hijab in NYC
     Reply #29 - November 09, 2014, 03:41 PM

    Where have all the romantics gone?

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