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 Topic: Where are the muslim members?

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  • Where are the muslim members?
     OP - December 10, 2014, 09:33 AM
    When I first joined here there were a good amount of Muslims who posted on here. Lately I haven't heard anything from them. It'd be nice to get some perspective from current Muslims on some of the things discussed on here
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #1 - December 10, 2014, 10:27 AM
    If I had joined last year  or year before, I could've!
    Run my dear, from anything that may not strengthen your precious budding wings
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #2 - December 10, 2014, 12:43 PM
    They come and go. Few are willing to get into debates.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #3 - December 10, 2014, 01:11 PM
    i think they only show up when their iman is particularly strong. Perhaps immediately after watching a dawah man video.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #4 - December 10, 2014, 01:34 PM
    All the ones that I can think of since I got here either got banned for breaking the rules/trolling or rage quit. Actually, there was one Muslim member that engaged with us for a while and was very civil and promised to return but just disappeared. Wonder what happened to him/her.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #5 - December 10, 2014, 01:50 PM
    I liked debator
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #6 - December 10, 2014, 02:30 PM
    I liked Debunker.


    But Allah doesn't generally send his sharpest tools to CEMB, just his tools.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #7 - December 10, 2014, 05:05 PM
    Quote from: justperusing on December 10, 2014, 09:33 AM
    When I first joined here there were a good amount of Muslims who posted on here. Lately I haven't heard anything from them. It'd be nice to get some perspective from current Muslims on some of the things discussed on here.

    They could not deal with all the hard questioning of the religion and their scriptures etc. They did not have the answers.
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  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #8 - December 10, 2014, 05:42 PM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on December 10, 2014, 01:11 PM
    i think they only show up when their iman is particularly strong. Perhaps immediately after watching a dawah man video.


    Who wouldn't be moved by those effects and that catchy outro. Bang bang its dawah time, innit. I can feel my unfaith wavering just thinking about it.
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  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #9 - December 10, 2014, 06:18 PM
    Quote from: asbie on December 10, 2014, 05:42 PM
    Who wouldn't be moved by those effects and that catchy outro. Bang bang its dawah time, innit. I can feel my unfaith wavering just thinking about it.


    Haha!

    "Bang bang its dawah time" < Epic, we need to make a song!
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #10 - December 10, 2014, 06:49 PM
    Well at the rate dawah boy is getting banned from universities, his only place to preach may be somewhere like here soon. That would be fun having him as a member  Baseball bat
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #11 - December 10, 2014, 06:55 PM
    Quote from: justperusing on December 10, 2014, 06:49 PM
    Well at the rate dawah boy is getting banned from universities, his only place to preach may be somewhere like here soon. That would be fun having him as a member  Baseball bat


    Now, now! No inciting of violence young JP!  Tongue
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #12 - December 10, 2014, 07:25 PM
    I was gonna invite him to play baseball  Wink
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #13 - December 10, 2014, 07:29 PM
    Uhh huh!  whistling2
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #14 - December 10, 2014, 07:49 PM
    For some reason my profile now inaccurately lists me as an ex-Muslim, so maybe they met a similar fate -- forcibly converted into apostates by Internet hypercode.     Tongue
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #15 - December 10, 2014, 07:56 PM
    Quote from: Zaotar on December 10, 2014, 07:49 PM
    For some reason my profile now inaccurately lists me as an ex-Muslim, so maybe they met a similar fate -- forcibly converted into apostates by Internet hypercode.     Tongue


    Dammit, why did I not get the honour?

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  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #16 - December 10, 2014, 10:07 PM
    Quote
    innit.


    Is that in the koran, sira or hadith?
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  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #17 - December 10, 2014, 10:21 PM
    Quote from: David on December 10, 2014, 02:30 PM
    I liked Debunker

    Yes - I meant, Debunker  Afro[/quote]

    Quote from: David on December 10, 2014, 02:30 PM
    But Allah doesn't generally send his sharpest tools to CEMB, just his tools.


    There is a common misnomer that religious people are not very bright. That's not true. They include intelligent, ignorant and indifferent - just like any group of human beings.

    What I think most of us (non-religious) mistake for stupidity is simply 'faith'. Faith clouds a persons judgment. They could be a highly intelligent person. But when it comes to matters of faith their judgment is clouded, but that doesn't mean they're stupid.

    I don't think it helps our cause to label those who have faith in a religion as "stupid" when many of them are clearly not stupid.

    Smiley
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #18 - December 10, 2014, 10:30 PM
    ^very true

    People like Francis Collins (the man who was in charge of mapping the human genome) is a devout Christian. Religious people can be brilliant. Although, its like their brain is split into two portions: the side that forms elegant scientific ideas and theories, and the side that believes that an ancient rabbi spilt his blood on a cross to pay for an invisible curse on mankind. There simply is no crossover between these two compartments of their minds.
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #19 - December 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
    "Compartmentalization is an unconscious psychological defense mechanism used to avoid cognitive dissonance, or the mental discomfort and anxiety caused by a person's having conflicting values, cognitions, emotions, beliefs, etc. within themselves.
    Compartmentalization allows these conflicting ideas to co-exist by inhibiting direct or explicit acknowledgement and interaction between separate compartmentalized self states"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_(psychology)
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #20 - December 10, 2014, 10:47 PM
    I am now aware of how I did that in the past, until cracks started appearing in the dam. Then cracks became small holes and water started seeping in. Then chunks came away and water began pouring in until the whole dam collapsed and I was flooded.

     grin12
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #21 - December 11, 2014, 01:50 AM
    I wish there were more Muslims too, it would lead too some interesting discussions.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #22 - December 11, 2014, 01:53 AM
    Quote from: Abu Ali on December 10, 2014, 10:47 PM
    I am now aware of how I did that in the past, until cracks started appearing in the dam. Then cracks became small holes and water started seeping in. Then chunks came away and water began pouring in until the whole dam collapsed and I was flooded.

     grin12


    What do you think caused you to look at things differently after so long?
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #23 - December 11, 2014, 06:01 AM
    Quote from: Abu Ali on December 10, 2014, 10:21 PM
    Yes - I meant, Debunker  Afro

    There is a common misnomer that religious people are not very bright. That's not true. They include intelligent, ignorant and indifferent - just like any group of human beings.

    What I think most of us (non-religious) mistake for stupidity is simply 'faith'. Faith clouds a persons judgment. They could be a highly intelligent person. But when it comes to matters of faith their judgment is clouded, but that doesn't mean they're stupid.

    I don't think it helps our cause to label those who have faith in a religion as "stupid" when many of them are clearly not stupid.

    I agree with all of that, except the last bit.

    My parents have faith; they are less stupid than I. My friend Ellie has faith; she is the brightest person I know.

    I liked Debunker because he was bright and interesting.............
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #24 - December 11, 2014, 09:15 AM
    Quote from: laico on December 11, 2014, 01:53 AM
    What do you think caused you to look at things differently after so long?


    That's something I struggle to answer myself. I'm not sure. Perhaps some life-events public and personal made me look at things in a different way. No single specific thing though.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #25 - December 11, 2014, 09:16 AM
    Quote from: David on December 11, 2014, 06:01 AM
    I agree with all of that, except the last bit.


    You mean this bit?

    I don't think it helps our cause to label those who have faith in a religion as "stupid" when many of them are clearly not stupid.


    Are you saying that it helps our cause to call religious people stupid?

     Huh?
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #26 - December 11, 2014, 03:00 PM
    No, I'm not saying that at all.

    I said that the Muslims who come on here, Debunker aside, often aren't very bright. And that is all I said.


    Edit: I think we're talking at cross purposes.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #27 - December 11, 2014, 03:23 PM
    Quote from: David on December 11, 2014, 03:00 PM
    No, I'm not saying that at all.

    I said that the Muslims who come on here, Debunker aside, often aren't very bright. And that is all I said.


    Edit: I think we're talking at cross purposes.


    Well I suppose I ought to drop it - but I'm bored of the translating I'm currently working on so I'm going to pursue this instead  grin12

    Please look at the post where you replied to me:

    I agree with all of that, except the last bit.

    The post you quoted was this:

    There is a common misnomer that religious people are not very bright. That's not true. They include intelligent, ignorant and indifferent - just like any group of human beings.

    What I think most of us (non-religious) mistake for stupidity is simply 'faith'. Faith clouds a persons judgment. They could be a highly intelligent person. But when it comes to matters of faith their judgment is clouded, but that doesn't mean they're stupid.

    I don't think it helps our cause to label those who have faith in a religion as "stupid" when many of them are clearly not stupid.

    So simple question, David. Do you really disagree with that last bit (underlined). Or did you make a mistake when you said that?
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #28 - December 11, 2014, 04:30 PM
    Blimey.

    What I disagreed with was your assumption that I was labelling religious people as stupid.

    Which, to my mind, I clearly wasn't.
  • Where are the muslim members?
     Reply #29 - December 11, 2014, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: David on December 11, 2014, 04:30 PM
    What I disagreed with was your assumption that I was labelling religious people as stupid.


    OK, well you could have said exactly that^

    By just saying you disagreed with my last statement, it made it seem that... um... you disagreed with my last statement  Wink
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