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  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     OP - January 17, 2015, 04:40 AM

    So IS has allegedly executed two gay men by throwing them off a high place:

    Shocking images show Islamic State throwing gay men to death

    This PDF (WARNING: Right wing think thank) mentions this on page 15 top:

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    “The punishment of homosexuality is death.... Ibn Qudamah said: “The companions (of the Prophet) agreed unanimously on killing. Some of the Companions argued that he (a homosexual) is to be burned with fire. It has been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place. Other things have also been said.” <- Huh? People say a lot of stuff...
    Jurisprudence, Tenth Grade, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Ministry of Education. 1431- 1432; 2010-2011, pp. 100-101.


    10th grade Saudi curriculum.

    Ibn Qudamah (1147-1223) was a Hanbali scholar.

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    Comments from other Muslim scholars
    Ibn an-Najjaar describes him as: "The Imaam of Al-Hanabilah (Hanbalis) in Damascus Mosque, he was a trust worthy, noble figure, extremely generous, of a clean character, a cautious worshipper, follower of the Salaf in methodology, emitting light (of knowledge and piety) and respectful. One may benefit from his sighting before even hearing his speech!

    Shaikh al-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah said about him, "No one possessing more understanding of the religion entered Shaam, after Al-Awzaa'ee, other than Shaykh al Muwaffaq (Ibn Qudamah)"

    Ibn Kathir said about him , "He was the Shaikh ul Islam, an Imaam, a Scholar, outstandingly proficient. there was not found in his time nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more Fiqh than him."

    Ibn Rajab said about his books "He generated benefit to all the Muslims on a general level, and to the scholars of the (Hanbali) Madhab on a specific level. These books spread widely and grew very popular, according to the nobility of his intention and sincerity when writing them."


    Anyone of you heard of this when you were Muslim?

    Of course IS filmed it all in HD and created another propaganda video. Should make people flock to them.

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  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #1 - January 17, 2015, 08:34 AM

    as I was taught, gays and lesbians are to be detained for three days to be given time to repent, or they'll be killed. not sure if I'm remembering correctly tho.

    "we stand firm calling to allah all the time,
    we let them know - bang! bang! - coz it's dawah time!"
  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #2 - January 17, 2015, 08:44 AM

    About the punishment for homosexuals? About the "magnificent" Ibn Qudamah? Yes. Actually, I studied fiqh according to the hanabilah, and books by Ibn Qudamah.

    Never heard about the three day thing, that's for certain apostates though, but the hadeeth never mentiones anything about time for repentance. It doesn't for heterosexual zina, why would it for gays Huh?

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  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #3 - January 17, 2015, 08:49 AM

    maybe I'm confused then. it's been along time since secondary school where they taught me that.

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    we let them know - bang! bang! - coz it's dawah time!"
  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #4 - February 03, 2015, 11:59 AM

    Disturbing pictures in link.

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    ISIS throws another gay man off building – after he survives fall, town stones him to death

    03 February 2015 | By Darren Wee
    Islamic State militants have reportedly thrown another gay man off a building, who was then stoned to death after surviving the fall.

    New images have emerged that show two masked men hurling the man from a seven-storey tower.

    The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights quoted a source as saying the man was killed in the Tal Abyad town in Raqqa, an ISIS stronghold.

    The man, who appears to be in his 50s, was charged with having a 'homosexual affair.'

    He was blindfolded and sat on a white plastic chair while the militants read out his 'judgement' before carrying out the sentence – throwing him from the highest point in the city.

    After he survived the fall, the townsfolk, including women and children, circled him and stoned him to death.

    It is the fourth execution for alleged homosexuality that the jihadist group has carried out in the last few weeks.


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  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #5 - February 03, 2015, 01:20 PM

    I remember watching a program on The Discovery Channel or National Geographic some years ago about some East African tribe who believed that birth defects were a manifestation of evil, known as Mingi. Any baby or toddler with such a defect would be left out in the wilderness to die or drowned in a river. As they interviewed one of the chiefs describing why Mingi was such a bad thing, I remember thinking how backwards, absurd, and primitive these people sounded.

    Looking now at how ludicrously backwards so many orthodox Islamic rulings are, like this one regarding throwing people off of buildings and stoning them to death, it baffles and sickens me to think that human beings  are clinging to these savage superstitions in the 21st century. The hell is wrong with these people???
  • Throwing homosexuals out from high places
     Reply #6 - February 03, 2015, 04:08 PM

    ................Looking now at how ludicrously backwards so many orthodox Islamic rulings are, like this one regarding throwing people off of buildings and stoning them to death, ......................

    If Muslim folks throw all that hadith in to trash,  then It is NOT   Islamic ruling,  And whatever is written in Quran on  that bullshit  directly comes from bible.,  In fact a careful reading of Quran tells me .. Quran is much milder on homosexual than its predecessor .. Leviticus Chapter 20 is far more aggressive in murdering people for so-called sexual promiscuity . Let me paste that here ..

    Punishments for Sin
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    20 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him.

    3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name.

    4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death,

    5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.

    6 “‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.

    7 “‘Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God.

     8 Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy.

    9 “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

    10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

    11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

    12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

    13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

    14 “‘If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

    15 “‘If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he is to be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

    16 “‘If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

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    17 “‘If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.

    18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

    19 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible.

    20 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless.

    21 “‘If a man marries his brother’s wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.

    22 “‘Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out.

    23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.

     

    24 But I said to you, “You will possess their land; I will give it to you as an inheritance, a land flowing with milk and honey.” I am the Lord your God, who has set you apart from the nations.

    25 “‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you.

    26 You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord, am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own.

    27 “‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’”

    Those words from god are far more direct than what I see in that chapter 7 of Quran, I was just reading...,  Quran infact is very mild on that homosexuality...  Anyways this is the results of such fucking god's words on  brainless baboons  in 21st century.Pictures are horrific

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    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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