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  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     OP - April 06, 2015, 06:17 PM

    Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules by FARAZ TALAT

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    Several weeks ago, a video surfaced on the internet, documenting outrageous animal abuse at a ‘halal’ slaughterhouse in North Yorkshire, England. A single viewing of the video is enough to make the most compulsive meat-eater drop the steak knife, and re-examine what ‘halal’ means to us.
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    ....For those of us who have grown up watching animals bleating and thrashing their legs as they are slaughtered in the front porches of our homes, the video may be only a degree and-a-half above our threshold of tolerance.

    It depicts workers angrily throwing and kicking sheep across the abattoir floor, sometimes even cheering as they slit the animals’ throats (often in multiple attempts).


    In the United Kingdom, a country where up to 88 per cent of the animals are 'stunned' before being slaughtered, the uproar was ground-shaking.  Practicing Muslims around the world, especially in non-Islamic countries, take great pains to ensure that the food they’re consuming is halal. I’ve met conservative Muslim friends in Europe denying themselves ketchup, and altogether avoiding restaurants where non-halal food is served, for fear of it being prepared in the same cookware as pork.
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    Similar care is taken by people of the Jewish faith. Such are the similarities between the religious demands of each group that less discerning Muslims in Western states have a rule of thumb that ‘kosher’ food is permissible for them to eat, as ‘halal’ food is permissible for Jewish people.


    Regrettably, when we say ‘halal’, we focus solely on the method of slaughter – the correct ritual of zibah by the Muslims, and schechita by the Jews. The preoccupation with the ritual leaves little attention to be paid to the environmental and ethical costs of our demands. Moderate Muslims generally agree that humane production is an integral part of what makes meat ‘halal’. Theoretically, the animal must be killed as swiftly and painlessly as possible, as long as the blood loss isn’t arrested.

    In contrast to that ideal, The Telegraph reported a sharp rise in animal slaughter without pre-stunning in the UK, allegedly due to stronger campaigning by Muslims for traditional slaughter practices.

    Meanwhile, the Danish government put its foot down, and revoked the religious exemption to the law requiring animals to be stunned before slaughter. Fighting the dual charge of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, the minister for food and agriculture, Dan Jørgensen, unapologetically stated that “animal rights come before religion”.

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     well  that is enough and there is more at the link so read it there..

    well here in this halal meat .... anti-Semitism and Islamophobia,.... gets together to fight against those who support the idea of slaughter houses after stunning the animal.  I am not sure which is a better way to kill animal for its meat  but I would consider the one which gives most painless death to animal as the BEST HALAL meat...

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  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #1 - April 06, 2015, 07:20 PM

    Halal vs. Kosher_ the differences

    Religious slaughter and animal welfare: a discussion for meat scientists.

    "Halal Meat" The Quranic Truth

    Humane handling of live stock  and good commercial practice  in poultry

    Mechanical, Electrical and Anesthetic Stunning Methods for Animal live stock

    Veterinary anesthesia

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #2 - April 07, 2015, 12:07 AM

    We all just need to consume less of it and promote organic farming, not sure either which is the best way to slaughter, perhaps the traditional way of puncturing the vein but i guess that is time consuming. I'm not much of a meat eater so i have my freezer stocked up with a meat alternative at present, i've been experimenting, attempting to make the same dishes but with vege meat, not as tasty though.
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #3 - April 07, 2015, 02:45 AM

    Go to your local butcher for meat, they know exactly where it comes from and usually tastes better than supermarket meat.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #4 - April 07, 2015, 06:20 AM

    I'm still stuck on halal meat, ingrained in me, ive never shopped at an english butchers, their meat is probably the closest you will get to halal/kosher without the sprinkling of the magic blessing.
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #5 - April 07, 2015, 09:01 AM

    Excellent farm,  excellent food, very cool people!

    And most importantly, animal welfare comes first.

    http://www.willowbrookorganic.org/
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #6 - April 07, 2015, 07:20 PM

    One of my friends is a halal butcher and he told me that before slaughtering the animals they just play a cassette tape (yes, low-tech) with the adhaan on and then let the killing commence...

    I do think this issue has been hijacked by right-wing nuts which has clouded the discussion.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #7 - April 07, 2015, 07:57 PM

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  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #8 - May 14, 2015, 12:12 AM

    One of my friends is a halal butcher and he told me that before slaughtering the animals they just play a cassette tape (yes, low-tech) with the adhaan on and then let the killing commence...

    I do think this issue has been hijacked by right-wing nuts which has clouded the discussion.

    Do they do the whole none stunning and slit their throats while the poor things are still conscious and aware of what's happening? Some of the vids I've seen of the distress the animals go through while bleeding to death is the stuff of nightmares.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Is halal always humane? Slaughterhouse rules
     Reply #9 - May 14, 2015, 02:18 AM

    I stun my fish before I slit them under the gill. I use one blow with the butt of the knife. My father taught me that. I don't know if it works, but they sure flop less!

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