Why are so many exmuslims rightwing ?

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Reply #90 - May 26, 2015, 01:00 AM

Quote from: BerberElla on May 22, 2015, 01:23 PM
Ahh, this one doesn't always work lol, like " I don't want to be pee'd on, ~~but some people like to be pee'd on.~~"

Better one, treat people like lepers, be nice................

Huh! what? Sahara.. we will talk later about those lepers but No..no..noo that is not right

that saying should be .... "I don't pee on others as I don't want others to be peed on me "

..... Lepers is different case It is for those who knows in and outs of that "Mycobacterium lepra bacteria.". .. If you don't know anything about it don't go near to that bacteria but there are many ways to help those unfortunate folks..

and talking about Leprosy Please learn about that great men like Father Damien/ Jozef ("Jef") De Veuster,

and and .. that dr. Gerhard Henrik Armauer Hansen

well those who have time can watch this movie..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEKSHBJtdc

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Reply #91 - May 26, 2015, 01:16 AM

Now Allat is someone who actually is readup on the the connection between right wing economics and rightwing politics. They are connected by an padlocked unbreakable umbilical cord and serve each other.

I see Hassan is still trolling the thread despite admitting he knows nothing about politics.

Descent ...erm yes I said it was people who I've spoke which is the same as being anecdotal, I never claimed it was quantified recorded academic research. This is an internet forum not a academic peer review where everything has to be thorough and scrupulous.

Also you know very little about the subject so it's better you don't embarrass yourself by speaking about it. There are rough, generally agreed definitions of what specific economic/political terms mean. You can't pull the wool over peoples eyes by using no true scotsmans fallacies.

I see you completely dodged addressing the point of how the most capitalist system in the world has 22% children lviing in poverty.
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Reply #92 - May 26, 2015, 03:09 AM

Quote from: serpentofeden on May 26, 2015, 01:16 AM
......I see you completely dodged addressing the point of how the most capitalist system in the world has 22% children lviing in poverty. ...

..serpent you do have a point w.r.t economy of the so- called free world-democratic world or right wing Capitalism and what not .. BUT NO ONE IS DODGING YOUR QUESTION.. it is just people are interested in different subjects and different things..

anyways let me help you with these links..

http://www.aflcio.org/Corporate-Watch/Paywatch-2014/100-Highest-Paid-CEOs

wealthy will transform into a new type of human within 200 years

So the planet is going to have new species on the earth.. But you are such a smart guy you must have realized what you said here on Decent responses is not right and not necessary to highlight the relation between the Capitalists and Ex-Muslims..

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@yeezeevee

I didn't mention Niall Fergusons religion. PS Niall Ferguson is an atheist not jewish. lol

As for the list you put up, I don't know about the views of those individuals.

Niall Ferguson is an atheist ? not jewish?? . really??

You mean Jewish folks can not be atheist? Well i gave list of ex-Muslims serpent.., If you don't have list of ex-Muslims who are right wingers, then why would you say all/majority of ex-Muslims are right-wingers or supporters of uncontrolled capitalism?

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Reply #93 - May 26, 2015, 07:01 AM

Sorry i'm going be a troll and butt in too, but some of you are missing the point. Serpent said right from the very first post that he (asuming he's a guy) is basing his opinion on the ex-muslim folks that he has met and talked to in person, not some public survey lol. But i think everyone is correct here, that the majority of ex-muslims will be lefties or centrist, the right wingers will generally be upper middle class, or sons /daughters of those early ex-colonial migrants who came here from the commonwealth countries in the 50's.
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Reply #94 - May 26, 2015, 07:29 AM

Quote from: serpentofeden on May 26, 2015, 01:16 AM
I see Hassan is still trolling the thread despite admitting he knows nothing about politics.

Now who's hurling personal abuse?

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Reply #95 - May 26, 2015, 11:39 AM

Quote from: serpentofeden on May 26, 2015, 01:16 AM
I see you completely dodged addressing the point of how the most capitalist system in the world has 22% children lviing in poverty.

Of course I did. Without any sources or context, this statistic is meaningless.
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Reply #96 - May 26, 2015, 09:19 PM

@yeezeeve

"Ferguson was brought up an atheist and he still remains one "
http://www.famousauthors.org/niall-ferguson

The British historian Niall Ferguson calls himself “an incurable atheist”
https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/2672/the-last-crusade

him an ayaan hirsi ali make a cute neo-con right wing atheist couple

You mean Jewish folks can not be atheist? Well i gave list of ex-Muslims serpent..,

Jewish folks can be atheist, but as far as I know Ferguson has no jewish ancestry/parents

If you don't have list of ex-Muslims who are right wingers, then why would you say all/majority of ex-Muslims are right-wingers or supporters of uncontrolled capitalism?

I never said I have a list of XYZ, I said from the ex-muslims I've met in real life(not celebrities or a public survey) most are economically right wing, Now for obvious reasons I wouldn't put the names of exmuslims I know IRL on a forum that anyone from the public can read.

@suki

Thank you, it's good to know some folks fully read posts fully insteading of skimming

@descent

blimey I have to spoon feed you, this is just like babysitting my nephews

here goes

http://www.nccp.org/topics/childpoverty.html
http://www.irp.wisc.edu/faqs/faq6.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/22/children-well-being/12961643/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/social-issues/poor-kids/by-the-numbers-childhood-poverty-in-the-u-s/
http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/07/kids-j31.html
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Reply #97 - May 26, 2015, 09:21 PM

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=28775.msg821955#msg821955

most insightful and well articulated post I've ever seen on this forum. Explains the issue much better than I did.
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Reply #98 - June 04, 2015, 01:40 PM

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/here-are-7-things-people-who-say-theyre-fiscally-conservative-but-socially-liberal-dont-understand/

Great piece on the problems of being left on social issues but swaying to the conservative right on economics
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Reply #99 - June 23, 2015, 12:52 PM

Quote from: serpentofeden on May 18, 2015, 12:47 PM

I would rather befriend a muslim who is for equality all across the board(women rights,gay rights, minority rights, economic equality etc) then an exmuslim who is a mouthpiece for some form of supremacism.

Word! +100000

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Reply #100 - June 23, 2015, 08:01 PM

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Quote from: serpentofeden says on May 18, 2015, 12:47 PM
... I would rather befriend a muslim who is for equality all across the board(women rights,gay rights, minority rights, economic equality etc) thean an exmuslim who is a mouthpiece for some form of supremacism.....

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Quote from: CATO link=topic=28775.msg825768#msg825768 date=1435063943
Word! +100000

Hmm let me read SERPENT again to see why CATO kaelin giving some 100000 thumbs ups

"I would rather befriend a Muslim who is for equality all across the board such as women rights,gay rights, minority rights, economic equality rather than a ex-Muslim who is a mouthpiece for some form of supremacism."

Hello., Serpent you should be able to befriend any one and every one even those whom you oppose .. ., befriend doesn't mean you should be a friend all the time without questioning what they say and what they do..

So because of that my thumbs are going down so change that and change that attitude.. you should be able befriend all ....

So serpent.... you are wrong and off course Cato is wrong all the time..

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Reply #101 - December 12, 2017, 01:06 PM

Hmm This is a good folder to bump in.. I want to get hit because I HATE EVERYONE IN THIS FOLDER ..lol..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqMPEo0rIJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hrthNaln0s

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