GOD IS JUST A FANTASY

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OP - July 06, 2016, 11:00 AM

Hello everyone !

I am an ex Muslim and after doing loads of research have become a convinced atheist , for me GOD is just an illusion , a fantasy created by us , just to help our selves , and to control other's minds.

We have created a entity around us , who we want to tell us what we want to do or want to believe in , and that myth is called GOD or religion.
Today all the problems this world is facing is because of that entity and religion , because religion is arrogant , controlling and it is evil. but in order to see religion's true side , one has to come out of that boat to see how horrible it was and is.

Just think for a moment and tell , all those who have come out of religion have got what i called a true freedom.
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Reply #1 - July 06, 2016, 11:10 AM

Welcome
Have a parrot

"True freedom" is a big word.
All the other constraints of being a human are still there, you've just done your best to get rid of the religilous ones.
(And like it or not, some of them still affects you)
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Reply #2 - July 06, 2016, 11:16 AM

Quote from: Aun on July 06, 2016, 11:00 AM
Hello everyone !
................. after doing loads of research have become a convinced atheist , for me GOD is just an illusion , a fantasy created by us , just to help our selves , and to control other's minds.

We have created a entity around us , who we want to tell us what we want to do or want to believe in , and that myth is called GOD or religion.
Today ~~all the problems~~ this world is facing is because of that entity and religion , because religion is arrogant , controlling and it is evil. but in order to see religion's true side , one has to come out of that boat to see how horrible it was and is. .

hello Aun., glad to read your posts., well I would NOT say "all the problems this world is facing is because of that entity "god" and religion" but you do have point there. Indeed all unquestionable religions, religious doctrines ., religious hypothesis do create problems to human society through their brain washing, political and financial control on human society

the funny thing is these stupid faiths and their gods are not really create problems to animal society but they did and do give problem to the evolved highly intelligent animal species the human being

anyways., welcome to the open world that question religious nonsense and gibberish from so called scriptures .. the silly religious story books for children

with best wishes
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Reply #3 - July 06, 2016, 11:50 AM

Yeah. I think a lot of the world's problems make a lot more sense if you start from the premise that there is no god.

Oh, and have a welcome .
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Reply #4 - July 06, 2016, 12:04 PM

When i say true freedom that mean , A FREE MIND , because we are already living in a free country , but freedom basically and first starts from your own self.

Freedom is that you no more have to do all those negative things which you were bound to practice inside the religion , for example , religion says (you cannot be a friend to a non Muslim) , or there are loads of other stupid things which even if you dont practice , still you have to advocate them that they are right.

For me this is the TRUE FREEDOM , where some stupid literature is not leading your life , and not deciding what you need to do in your life.

As i said and I believe the religions were only created by some creative people and it was accepted and adapted by some weak people who wanted to be controlled and dictated.
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Reply #5 - July 06, 2016, 01:50 PM

This universe is not outside of you.
Look inside yourself;
everything that you want,
you are already that.”

- Maulana Jalaluddin Rumi

Everything outward is just a fantasy,

Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder
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Reply #6 - July 06, 2016, 01:56 PM

Quote from: ElRafa on July 06, 2016, 01:50 PM
This universe is not outside of you.
Look inside yourself;
everything that you want,
you are already that.”

- Maulana Jalaluddin Rumi

well ElRafa singing songs and dance to drum beats is OK., but if you really.. really "Look inside of yourself" what you will have is this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33sRveaEwSQ

well that is the simplest tube., there are much bloody and complicated operation table tubes out there ..

Any way you do have point there with reference to religions faith.. prayer.. whatever

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Reply #7 - July 06, 2016, 02:19 PM

Quote from: ElRafa on July 06, 2016, 01:50 PM

Everything outward is just a fantasy,

Solipsism?
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Reply #8 - July 06, 2016, 03:56 PM

God was never there.
And then darwin came.

Evolution is brutal and nasty.
Brutal reality.

God isn't there.
But you can create godliness around you.
You can stay very positive.

I don't know if karma really works.
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Reply #9 - July 06, 2016, 04:01 PM

But how will you solve the puzzles of mysterious wazifas and istakharas.

You know you can find out answers through sura yaseen wazifa.
Write 4 angels names around a bowl and then recite yaseen in specific way.
Then write your statement and put in that bowl.
If your statement is correct, bowl starts to rotate itself.
I have done this lot of time.

Some say it is artifacts.

Mysterious
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Reply #10 - July 07, 2016, 05:42 AM

Quote from: Aun on July 06, 2016, 11:00 AM
...all the problems this world is facing is because of that entity and religion , because religion is arrogant , controlling and it is evil.

Assuming for discussion God is fantasy, I should also assume the outcome of your godless new world ushers in some kind of Age of Aquarius: Crime, greed, social ills, and corruption is eliminated. Nationalism, culturalism, competing security issues and political/economic ideology are harmonized. States land/sea borders are erased, resources are shared fairly and equally. No more wars.

It’s a wonderful dream.

Joseph
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Reply #11 - July 07, 2016, 11:41 AM

Replace "God" in the subject with "Ego" and then relating all man made religious "gods" with the same and I agree with you right down to the effects on humanity.
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Reply #12 - July 10, 2016, 01:20 AM

Whether God exist or don't exist is not important, society has to evolve so we can be civil to each otherwise or we will become doomed.at least in the West there's progress with rights and freedoms and how society treats women for example is light years ahead of Muslim countries. If there was a God he/she it would far too clever to let a bunch monkeys like us know that it exist.
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Reply #13 - July 18, 2016, 01:36 AM

Quote from: Zest on July 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Whether God exist or don't exist is not important, society has to evolve so we can be civil to each otherwise or we will become doomed.at least in the West there's progress with rights and freedoms and how society treats women for example is light years ahead of Muslim countries. If there was a God he/she it would far too clever to let a bunch monkeys like us know that it exist.

Hi Zest ..wonderful to read your two posts, Glad you joined the forum from that Berber Country., Fantastic place to spend a month or two every few years in your country..

anyways I disagree with you., I say " inquiring about this God thingy exists or not is important and I say it is more important to educate and make people understand (( specially the near and dear folks)) "what actually they mean by this god thingy"

and it is also not true "that west is some light years ahead of Muslim countries in women's rights.," they may be ahead of some 50 years but certainly not some 100 years., And now we have internet and if we all work hard we can bridge that gap in a very short time.. anyways welcome to the forum

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #14 - July 21, 2016, 03:34 PM

Well , in the end what the reality is , that god is another human made myth , that people created just to control the minds , and eventually rule the world.
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Reply #15 - July 21, 2016, 03:54 PM

Quote from: Zest on July 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Whether God exist or don't exist is not important, society has to evolve so we can be civil to each otherwise or we will become doomed.at least in the West there's progress with rights and freedoms and how society treats women for example is light years ahead of Muslim countries. If there was a God he/she it would far too clever to let a bunch monkeys like us know that it exist.

You shouldn't assume that the West embraced these ideas for the benefit for all. Women had to fight tooth and nail to gain rights men were granted at birth. Nor should you assume that once the Wests dominance of trade collapses, it will sooner or later, these rights and freedoms will remain. Rights and freedoms are the first things to be removed when it comes to security and collapse of a nation/global system. Prosperity leads to progress. Recession lead to stagnation and collapse.
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