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OP - January 04, 2017, 12:25 PM

about doing bad thing like killing. If there is no religion,can we know whether killing is a bad thing to do?

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Reply #1 - January 04, 2017, 12:32 PM

Quote from: miss_mandyana on January 04, 2017, 12:25 PM
about doing bad thing like killing. If there is no religion,can we know whether killing is a bad thing to do?

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Hello miss_m ..killing what? Killing who?? and KILLING FOR WHAT?

Yes ... The answer is clearly Biiiiig "yes" ..if ..if (Biiiiiiig IF ) the human being/s is well educated with his/her origins and understands origins of life on the planet earth and understands how he/she evolved form where and what....

I can answer as "yes" for such people

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Reply #2 - January 04, 2017, 04:53 PM

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about doing bad thing like killing. If there is no religion,can we know whether killing is a bad thing to do?

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Of course. Ethics is not a religious concept
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Reply #3 - January 04, 2017, 11:43 PM

My kids knew instinctively what was wrong and right when they were just learning to walk. They didn't even talk, much less understand god or religion. People are born with morals. We are social creatures, we live in groups. It only makes sense that we would understand and have instinctive social rules so that our groups can get along and we as a species can survive.
Religion does not teach that. Religion often teaches the opposite: your parents can beat you, your husband can kill you, your kids are your possessions. These sort of distorted beliefs are damaging to societies and individuals. There are many good things being taught by religion, but those things are also taught in kindergarten.

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Reply #4 - January 05, 2017, 01:08 AM

I can't help notice the phrasing of your question. You didn't ask why is killing wrong, but how can we know it's wrong without religion. Are you asking why we have ideas of right and wrong or something else? Can you explain how religion fits in with it?

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Reply #5 - January 09, 2017, 02:08 AM

Because I had an argument with my friend,she said if there is no religion,we will become immoral. And yeah the ideas of killing too bugging me.not sure this is about religion or philosophy thingy.I know that is not right and i just dont know how to answer that. Now i have the answer here.

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Reply #6 - January 09, 2017, 02:47 AM

Quote from: miss_mandyana on January 04, 2017, 12:25 PM
killing is a bad thing to do?

Morals and ethics have nothing to do with religion.There is nothing like absolutely morality.Morality is relative concept.
But as a human society we have set some norms, and killing is evil for us. But again there is nothing like evil.
we as humans, set our own rules and norms, we don't need old text books to teach us living codes.Killing people have bad consequences, you might face jail or death punishment.
But I admire religions, they helped build societies on some level of moralities,But at the same time condemning sex is very damaging for any individual. So religions do have merits and demerits.

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Reply #7 - January 11, 2017, 07:37 AM

Thanks for the replies guys.

Do you guys believe in ghost? I had experience with ghost/spirit/genie before. If you are an atheist,do you believe this is just a science thing or what? If you believe in ghost,why cant you believe in god? Or maybe you think god is the same level as ghost/spirit/genie?

I had a discussion with my atheist friend(im agnostic)
He said its a science thing and maybe it was just an illusion. I dont think it was an illusion.

If you had experience with ghost,can share with me.

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