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OP - March 29, 2018, 01:14 PM

Dear CEMB members

(Oh dear, links not allowed so it's difficult for me to show what I'm talking about)

A year or so ago the PDF versions of the Reliance of the Traveller with English and Arabic text began to be taken down from the internet so some friends and I transposed it to Word to ensure that a version will always be available to show what is actually in Sharia Law:

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We would very much like to include the sections which Nu Ha Mim Keller left untranslated (mostly to do with slavery I believe). Is there anyone here fluent in Arabic and English who would be willing to translate them for us? These are the relevant sections:

e1.6, e1.18, e6.5, e7.7, e10.2, e12.4, e12.11-13, e14.4, e14.8,
f2.4, f4.6, f4.13, f5.9, f6.4, f8.4, f8.8, f8.26, f14.7,
h2.3, h2.8, h3.8,
i3.7,
k4.6, k5.8, k7.4, k16.4, k23.1, k24.1, k32.1, k32.2, k32.3, k32.4
L10.7,
m3.5, m3.14, m4.6, m6.4, m6.6, m6.11, m7.3, m10.11, m11.15,
n3.6, n4.2, n4.4, n8.2, n8.4, n9.4, n9.12, n9.20, n10.1,
o3.7, o3.11, o5.3, o12.3, o13.10, o19.2, o19.4, o20.3

I believe this is the last copy with English and Arabic text:

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Reply #1 - March 29, 2018, 01:35 PM

You need to make a few more posts before you get to show links, sorry. Maybe spell out the URL without the http:// bit?

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Reply #2 - March 29, 2018, 01:58 PM

Ah, okay.

reliancewpdotwordpressdotcom

archivedotorg/stream/RelianceOfTheTraveller1_201712/Reliance%20of%20the%20traveller1#page/n0/mode/2up
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Reply #3 - March 29, 2018, 04:40 PM

Quote from: Hal on March 29, 2018, 01:58 PM
Ah, okay.

reliancewpdotwordpressdotcom

archivedotorg/stream/RelianceOfTheTraveller1_201712/Reliance%20of%20the%20traveller1#page/n0/mode/2up

Hello Hal

Reliance of the Traveler English version pdf file

is that the link of that book?

with best wishes
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Reply #4 - March 29, 2018, 05:09 PM

The first link is to the Wordpress version we produced.

The second is to the PDF version which is basically a scan of the book by Nu Ha Mim Keller with English and Arabic.

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Reply #5 - March 29, 2018, 05:15 PM

Ah, I see what you mean now. Yes, your link is also the PDF version of the book. If we had known there were so many still about we wouldn't have bothered transcribing it, but I suspect it's only a matter of time before Keller or his publisher succeeds in getting them all taken down.
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Reply #6 - March 30, 2018, 02:55 PM

Quote from: Hal on March 29, 2018, 05:15 PM
........, but I suspect it's only a matter of time before Keller or his publisher succeeds in getting them all taken down....................

what do you think is the good reason for his publisher to get them all taken down ??

I hope you understand the reason why Keller or his publisher are trying to get take the free book from different sites....

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Reply #7 - March 30, 2018, 03:07 PM

I think Keller is trying to get the PDF of his book taken down because it has proved more useful to critics of Islam, by revealing to the wider world what Sharia consists of, than his intended audience.
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Reply #8 - March 30, 2018, 08:25 PM

Quote from: Hal on March 30, 2018, 03:07 PM
I think Keller is trying to get the PDF of his book taken down because it has proved more useful to critics of Islam, by revealing to the wider world what Sharia consists of, than his intended audience.

you think so?? I am not certain about that but how about that book publisher?? Any one who are familiar with Islamic laws know well that origins of sharia law for Muslim society come from religious precepts of Islam, namely the Quran and the Hadith ...And....and in this internet age both are open books to all who have access to web

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Reply #9 - March 31, 2018, 08:11 AM

Yes I do think so. But what has this to do with my request for help in translating the untranslated sections, which I see has found no takers?
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Reply #10 - March 31, 2018, 01:12 PM

Quote from: Hal on March 31, 2018, 08:11 AM
Yes I do think so.

well there could be other reasons such as financial losses., why an author takes the free pdf book from mirrored web sites

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But what has this to do with my request for help in translating the untranslated sections, which I see has found no takers?

no...no there are takers.,, those who are interested in faiths and their origins will take everything dear Hal., but i did not get those words "translating the untranslated sections" .,

You mean to say rules of Sharia law that are NOT there in that book and Mr. Nuh Ha Mim Keller did not translate all those voluminous books of Sharaia laws??

So you should be able to put your link into your posts now...

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Reply #11 - March 31, 2018, 02:38 PM

You are talking nonsense.
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Reply #12 - March 31, 2018, 03:41 PM

Quote from: Hal on March 31, 2018, 02:38 PM
You are talking nonsense.

well that is not new but i was just asking for your link so i said
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So you should be able to put your link into your posts now...

So put that book link dear Hal....

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