*STRAW-MAN/IRRELEVANT NONSENSE*
I never said that and you know it. If it is also your description of my response to you then perhaps you might be able to tell us what "straw man" I erected and how this same response is also "irrelevant". Can you do that?
Oh really! How abut some charts and graphs which indicate those "spikes" and also the accompanying "spikes" of backlashes?
As you are Canadian you can, perhaps, be forgiven for your ignorance of European history, and racism,
Just what are you talking about?
but in 1918 britain could have become fascist, long before Germany did. There aren't graphs to prove that,
And there won't be but keep in mind that Britain's fascist movement was at it's zenith in the late 1930's and still had little public support since they were considered a bit too friendly with Germany so I really doubt that Britain would have become fascist earlier. It's from this later time frame that one is most likely to find records that can yield data.
and there may not be graphs to prove that afro-caribbean immigration produced a similar response.
I think any research into police records of post-WWII Britain might reveal enough data and anecdotal remarks to back up a position of orchestrated violence from street gangs and post-war fascists. Hell, for that matter just look at back issues of Searchlight magazine and plenty of data is furnished to back up what is in their articles. I regarded them as a great source in compiling Nazi-Islamic collaboration in the UK.
Yet it is evident to us as socialists what happened because we dealt with, and did our best to stop it, and we realise that is a similar thing happening now.
First of all you do not represent "socialists". You represent yourself and that was admitted to when the subject of your former moniker (third camp) came up a while back. In fact, I find this dramatically written bit of yours to be rife with a glaring inaccuracy. The role of Communists and socialists in pre-WWII Britain to fight fascism is tawdry and two-sided. There those on the Left of that time and place who were also very much for appeasement of Hitler and that includes Vanessa Redgrave's father who even campaigned for the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact. So please let's not let the rosy picture take us to such lofty heights without a parachute.
The working-class in Europe knows better than to reproduce what has happened before,
Uh-huh. . . Ok, let's hold it here. For starts, there is an active network of neo-Nazis and assorted rabbles of fascists in Europe and most of them are of decidedly "working class" background (of course, there are the token "rich kids" involved). In fact, they really embody the idea of a twisted lumpenproletariat and they do know how to work on an organizational level that (after all the research I have done into such groups) is highly reminiscent of leftist organizations that like to socialize around "affinity" groups.
Decentralized yet uniformly indoctrinated (with variants) and yet having the ability to co-ordinate their actions under umbrella organizations. Which is exactly how Trots in the UK and other groups like the International Solidarity Movement work. The cross-pollination is such that it's known that the savvier jihadis have researched the tactics and strategies of both extreme rightwing and leftwing and strategies extensively for decades and it has paid off extremely well.
This is one (of many) blindspots that leftists (most of whom can hardly be classified as "working class") didn't think about and it shows when Muslims in Europe (the majority of whom can easily be classed as "working class") take an old idea (Islam), mix it with leftist sophistry (plus some lethal organizational and operational insights), throw in a dash of anti-Semitic sentiments (appropriately applied), do meticulous research into the culture industry of the West and have an understanding of it's structural transformation far better than most leftists. So there you have it, it looks like the working-class in Europe has indeed reproduced what has happened before and then some . . .
and knows better than to listen to fascists across the pond, as it were.
I hope that is the case for most working class people in Europe and elsewheres but when groups like the BNP show more street aptitude than the SWP, Respect, etc. there is a huge problem that the Left cannot stop. The Left may have the upper hand in terms of making their views known in the media and distorting public perceptions but the extreme Right knows the lay of the land far better and they know how to use violence far more selectively and efficiently.
Topic: "The 'Eurabia' myth"-debunked?