Ahadith on Women

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Ahadith on Women
OP - November 29, 2008, 07:23 AM

It was narrated that 'Abd-Allaah ibn 'Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women." They said, "Why, O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "Because of their ingratitude (kufr)." It was said, "Are they ungrateful to Allaah?" He said, "They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, "I have never had anything good from you.""
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1052)

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Reply #1 - November 29, 2008, 07:28 AM

It was narrated that Abu Sa?eed al-Khudri said: "...I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you (women). A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.? The women asked, ?O Messenger of Allaah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?? He said, ?Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?? They said, ?Yes.? He said, ?This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?? The women said, ?Yes.? He said, ?This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.??
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 304)

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Re: Ahadith on Women
Reply #2 - November 29, 2008, 11:13 AM

This is why Islam is so hard to believe or aknowledge.

In all the Hadith it begins with: "It is narrated by" or it it was "said by"

No one says, "I was with the Prophet when he said that"

It's the old story.

The commander in the trenches says,

"Send reinforcements, we're going to advance"

By the time the message is received in HQ it reads,

"Send three and four pence wer'e going to a dance"

Same with Al-Qur'an.

Women are human beings and should be treated lovingly and not by texts writtend

macho men.

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Re: Ahadith on Women
Reply #3 - December 01, 2008, 12:14 AM

No sane woman would ever consider islam after reading all that garbage. Nor any other sane person.

Also check this out, Unka Mo was BRAIN-FRIED! I think it does a good job of explaining why women are treated so detestably under mohammadism.
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Re: Ahadith on Women
Reply #4 - December 01, 2008, 11:28 AM

Even when I was a fully practicing Muslim, praying 5x a day, fasting Ramadan, wearing hijab, etc. I never could reconcile my own personal beliefs as a woman with this garbage.

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Re: Ahadith on Women
Reply #5 - December 01, 2008, 05:31 PM

Quote from: Nour on December 01, 2008, 11:28 AM
Even when I was a fully practicing Muslim, praying 5x a day, fasting Ramadan, wearing hijab, etc. I never could reconcile my own personal beliefs as a woman with this garbage.

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that one very good measure of a civilisation is how it treats its women. If that is the case, then does any islamic society qualify as a "civilisation"?
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Reply #6 - December 01, 2008, 06:48 PM

Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on December 01, 2008, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Nour on December 01, 2008, 11:28 AM
Even when I was a fully practicing Muslim, praying 5x a day, fasting Ramadan, wearing hijab, etc. I never could reconcile my own personal beliefs as a woman with this garbage.

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that one very good measure of a civilisation is how it treats its women. If that is the case, then does any islamic society qualify as a "civilisation"?

If that's the criteria to go on, then I'd say that no society qualified as a civilization until very recently.
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Re: Ahadith on Women
Reply #7 - December 03, 2008, 03:52 AM

Quote from: Variable on December 01, 2008, 06:48 PM
Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on December 01, 2008, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Nour on December 01, 2008, 11:28 AM
Even when I was a fully practicing Muslim, praying 5x a day, fasting Ramadan, wearing hijab, etc. I never could reconcile my own personal beliefs as a woman with this garbage.

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that one very good measure of a civilisation is how it treats its women. If that is the case, then does any islamic society qualify as a "civilisation"?

If that's the criteria to go on, then I'd say that no society qualified as a civilization until very recently.

If you compare historical societies with ones of today perhaps. What happens if you compare contemporaneous societies in any given era? More like, at any given time, were there places where women were better off?
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Reply #8 - December 03, 2008, 04:48 PM

Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on December 01, 2008, 12:14 AM
No sane woman would ever consider islam after reading all that garbage.

You would be surprised to see how Islam gets women hating on other women. Instead of defending eachother or standing up together they do the opposite. The women are the first to remind you of the restrictions of women in Islam and how you can't do this or that. They justify these rules instead of questioning them by saying 'women are naturally weak' and 'we need protection'. I hate anti-woman women and Islam produces many.

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Reply #9 - December 04, 2008, 12:34 AM

Quote from: Iggy on December 03, 2008, 04:48 PM
Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on December 01, 2008, 12:14 AM
No sane woman would ever consider islam after reading all that garbage.

You would be surprised to see how Islam gets women hating on other women. Instead of defending each other or standing up together they do the opposite. The women are the first to remind you of the restrictions of women in Islam and how you can't do this or that. They justify these rules instead of questioning them by saying 'women are naturally weak' and 'we need protection'. I hate anti-woman women and Islam produces many.

What a sick fucking bastard sonofabitch that Mohammad was. I guess one of his other names was "Satan" or something like it.

Anyway, I was originally talking about non-muslim women reading Islamic drivel.
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