Isreal has a right to exist.
I support a two state 1967 solution.
(Better yet, I have my own peace plan.)
http://infidelbob.blogspot.com/2006/07/bobs-peace-plan.htmlThey were almost there with in Camp David. Hopefully Obama with the World's help can get them back there.
Yes there are Palestinians that want it all and yes there are Israelis who want it all.
These people must be sidelined. Israel should pull the settlements out of the west bank. The west bank ruled by the Palestinian Authority has behaved well recently considering the current provocation.
Isreal has over used it's stick (Killing a thousand people to stop rockets that kill less than a handful a year). It is time to give up some carrot.
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I think this is a very good post but and I'm inclined to agree but I would like to ask a different question.
Does Israel 'ever' have the right to defend itself or are any Palestinian deaths instantly a war crime?
Up until now Israel has stayed it's hand as Hamas attacks repeatedly.
It seems to me that people talk about Israel accepting a certain amount of death but any Palestinian deaths are too many. The world is tolerant of a certain amount of Jewish carnage but it will not accept any Palestinian deaths without uproar.
If two Palestinians are killed this is a war crime, if sixty are killed this is a massacre, if seven hundred are killed it is a genocide equated to the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto. All this outrage when a real genocide is going on in Darfur. What has happened to us that this minor conflict inspires such hysterical hyperbole?
David Aaronovitch recently wrote in the Times.
"For months - years even - the historical twinning that some campaigners have chosen for the situation in Gaza has been with the Warsaw ghetto. There'll probably be a sign up soon, because in the past week Ken Livingstone, the activist-musician Brian Eno and George Galloway have all made the comparison.
?Gaza is a ghetto,? said Mr Livingstone, "in exactly the same way that the Warsaw Ghetto was, and people are trapped in it?; while Eno predicted: ?They [the Israelis] will continue to create a Warsaw Ghetto in the Middle East.? The less-restrained Mr Galloway pronounced: ?Those murdering them [the occupants of Gaza] are the equivalent of those who murdered the Jews in Warsaw in 1942.?
Busy people sometimes hurry their reading. Mr Galloway, for example, may only have skimmed the day-by-day reports made by SS Brigadef?hrer J?rgen Stroop on the destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. On the third day of the operation Stroop tells how ?large numbers of Jews - entire families - already on fire, jumped from the windows. We made sure that these, as well as the other Jews, were liquidated immediately.?
Stroop's operation was made necessary because the inhabitants of the ghetto took up what few arms they had, having already seen more than half their number transported to extermination camps - a figure which, if translated into Gaza terms, would mean the deliberate killing of 500,000 Palestinians"
I think people are far too eager to condemn the Israelis and far to willing to understand or even support Hamas.
Is there any equanimity in this dispute and why do so many liberals side with the racist theocrats and condemn the liberal democracy?
Has the world gone completely mad?