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 Topic: The before and after thread.

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  • Re: The before and after thread.
     Reply #180 - February 23, 2011, 10:31 PM
    I like this thread!

    never-really-thought-about-it agnosticism ---> my version of Islam --> stricter and stricter islam --> ex-muslim and now I'm just myself! I don't know yet what my beliefs are, or what category name I should give them. Maybe I find out but if I don't I don't worry about it.
  • Re: The before and after thread.
     Reply #181 - February 23, 2011, 11:24 PM
    Muslim* -> Atheist

    *  (born to Muslim parents)
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: The before and after thread.
     Reply #182 - February 24, 2011, 03:07 AM
    Muslim -> Goth/Wiccan -> Muslim -> Strict Muslim -> Liberal Muslim -> Thinking about Bahai -> Ex-Muslim -> Agnostic
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #183 - May 06, 2014, 08:19 PM
    Atheism ->Agnosticism -> Atheism.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #184 - May 06, 2014, 08:29 PM
    Belief in some kind of god -----> wannabe Christian until I learnt about the trinity -----> Muslim -----> strict Salafi/Wahhabi  ----> not so strict Salafi -----> confused Salafi feminist -----> confused Muslim feminist -----> Atheist
    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #185 - May 06, 2014, 11:22 PM
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    confused Salafi feminist

     

    Ok I can kinda somewhat get the "muslim feminist". but........

    salafi feminist Huh?  wacko Huh?  wacko
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #186 - May 07, 2014, 12:43 AM
    Oh, you've never heard of the Salafi feminist blogger? She even published an article in the National Post defending the niqab.
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #187 - May 07, 2014, 01:13 AM
    The delusion is strong in this one.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #188 - May 07, 2014, 03:03 AM
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    A Goth, (Steam)Punk, zombie-loving, wannabe-biker niqaabi feminist who may or may not be a Salafi according to your definition thereof

     

    From the salafi feminist website.

    Ok NO! Just no. You can't call yourself a member of the "goth subculture" if you are a salafi niqabi. You just can't.   

    If your a salafi you don't listen to any music and because of the niqab don't do any fashion. If you don't do those two things at all you are not goth.
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #189 - May 07, 2014, 03:17 AM
    Many women dress up under their niqab and abaya.
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #190 - May 07, 2014, 04:59 AM
    Quote from: TheDarkRebel on May 07, 2014, 03:03 AM
    If your a salafi you don't listen to any music and because of the niqab don't do any fashion. If you don't do those two things at all you are not goth.

    I know goths that would disagree with you. Grin
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #191 - May 07, 2014, 05:28 AM
    I'd think a niqab is easily compatible with goth culture; it's black and gloomy, just add some make-up and accessorize and -- bam -- you've got a goth niqabi.
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #192 - May 07, 2014, 06:37 AM
    Muslim ----> Agnostic Atheist

    Pretty boring really.
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #193 - May 07, 2014, 06:43 AM
    Moderate Muslim -> Solipsist -> Liberal Muslim -> Extreame Salafi Muslim -> Atheist.
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    Ash'hadu An La Ilaha - I bare witness that there is no God.

  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #194 - May 07, 2014, 10:21 AM
    Liberal Muslim->Atheist->A Few Days Wiccan->Atheist->One Day Christian->Atheist->Agnostic.
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #195 - May 20, 2014, 02:59 PM
    Sunni Islam -> Quranioon -> Agnostic -> Pagan -> Atheist (with a pinch of sun worship)
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #196 - May 20, 2014, 03:38 PM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on May 20, 2014, 02:59 PM
    Sunni Islam -> Quranioon -> Agnostic -> Pagan -> Atheist (with a pinch of sun worship)

    Hmm.. Sun worship., that sounds like you are worshiping future energy source of mankind the fusion of smallest atom..  Fusion is a god thing to worship better than fission.  

    hello  "AllPraisetoHarith"   welcome to CEMB., never read you here..

    "AllPraisetoHarith??    ha! All praise to Harith?  which Harith do you have in mind?

    Harith ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, one of the uncles of Muhammad, and a Sahaba??
    Harith ibn Rab'i, one of the companions of Muhammad??
    Harith ibn Harb, brother of the man who would be Muhammad's arch enemy, Abu Sufyan ibn Harb??

    or..Harith Ibn Hilliza Ul-Yashkuri, 5th century pre-Islamic Arabian poet??

    So which Harith you praise "AllPraisetoHarith" ?

    with best wishes
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #197 - May 20, 2014, 04:13 PM
    Paganism holds an attraction for me because of the emphasis on seeking to be in harmony with life. Nature worship has always seemed more beneficial to me than the reverence we give to the psychopaths and madmen held up as good examples for humanity.

    We're fucking up the planet. Who knows. a rise in paganism may have a positive environmental effect.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #198 - May 20, 2014, 10:20 PM
    Nah, but screw dogma. It leads to nasty places I don't want to go again.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #199 - May 20, 2014, 11:06 PM

    yeah i think perhaps monotheism is slowly branching off into either modern paganism/new ageism or atheism/humanism etc..

    Random thought lol 
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #200 - May 21, 2014, 07:56 AM
    Religions change. Even islam has gone through changes, just look at all the different kinds.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #201 - May 21, 2014, 09:23 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on May 20, 2014, 03:38 PM

    hello  "AllPraisetoHarith"   welcome to CEMB., never read you here..



    Thank you for the welcome. i joined yesterday. i come over from the exmuslim sub of reddit. i have been seeing links to this forum for months but only recently decided to join in. plus i am used to the forum format as opposed to the comments format over at reddit.

    Quote from: yeezevee on May 20, 2014, 03:38 PM

    Hmm.. Sun worship., that sounds like you are worshiping future energy source of mankind the fusion of smallest atom..  Fusion is a god thing to worship better than fission. 



    I have maintained this for a long time that if i was EVER going to bow down to A GOD, it would be the sun. the sun only gives and gives and never asks for anything in return. it wont throw me in hell, it wont ask me to prostrate to it 5 times a day etc etc. and the sun just happens to be the oldest god on this planet worshipped by almost people of every culture on the face of this earth.

    years ago, on my to and from work, i would praise her lol. i still do at time when i am out and its nice, suny and bright (living in uk, that happens not too often)

    Quote from: yeezevee on May 20, 2014, 03:38 PM

    "AllPraisetoHarith??    ha! All praise to Harith?  which Harith do you have in mind?

    Harith ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, one of the uncles of Muhammad, and a Sahaba??
    Harith ibn Rab'i, one of the companions of Muhammad??
    Harith ibn Harb, brother of the man who would be Muhammad's arch enemy, Abu Sufyan ibn Harb??

    or..Harith Ibn Hilliza Ul-Yashkuri, 5th century pre-Islamic Arabian poet??

    So which Harith you praise "AllPraisetoHarith" ?



    Actually none of the above. a long time ago, i was researching the meaning behind my name Ridwan which i was always told meant 'the keeper of paradise'. i wanted to know the source of this and ended up coming across a book called "The History of al-Tabari Vol. 1: General Introduction and From the Creation to the Flood". this is from the book:

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    "...Iblis belonged to a tribal group of angels called jinn. Among the angels it was they who were created from the fire of simoom. He continued. His name was al-Harith. He continued. He was one of the keepers of Paradise. He continued. All the angels except this tribal group were created from light.."


    you can imagine the kind of reaction i had lol
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #202 - May 21, 2014, 09:44 AM
    Quote from: AllPraisetoHarith on May 21, 2014, 09:23 AM
    Thank you for the welcome. i joined yesterday. i come over from the exmuslim sub of reddit. i have been seeing links to this forum for months but only recently decided to join in. plus i am used to the forum format as opposed to the comments format over at reddit.

     Oh I see   reddit... well reddit. format appears to be "I say you say " debate format.. What I am interested in is exploring Origins and History of religion ., On the  way  I learn from friends and some friends learn from my posts.,    forums like CEMB or FFI allows such posts along with discussion

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    .............years ago, on my to and from work, i would praise her lol. i still do at time when i am out and its nice, suny and bright (living in uk, that happens not too often)

    I like that.. SUN IS HOT and without doubt "She" propelled life through evolution  without which we would not on this earth in this human form.. Yes praising, praying and learning from HER a is good thing.  And Sun..She is a far more important to this planet earth than any allah doll any god of any stupid religions..

    Quote
    Actually none of the above. a long time ago, i was researching the meaning behind my name Ridwan which i was always told meant 'the keeper of paradise'. i wanted to know the source of this and ended up coming across a book called "The History of al-Tabari Vol. 1: General Introduction and From the Creation to the Flood". this is from the book:

    you can imagine the kind of reaction i had lol

     Oh I see that is from this book..



    Damn thing is expensive .. And it is written by a Jew..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #203 - May 21, 2014, 10:23 AM
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    And Sun..She is a far more important to this planet earth than any allah doll any god of any stupid religions..


    Cannot agree more.

    Quote
    Damn thing is expensive .. And it is written by a Jew..


    No it is just translated by Rosenthal. it was written by Tabari.
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #204 - May 21, 2014, 11:17 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on May 07, 2014, 01:13 AM
    The delusion is strong in this one.

  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #205 - May 21, 2014, 12:06 PM
    Quote
    Iblis belonged to a tribal group of angels called jinn. Among the angels it was they who were created from the fire of simoom. He continued. His name was al-Harith. He continued. He was one of the keepers of Paradise. He continued. All the angels except this tribal group were created from light

    I thought jinns were created from smokeless fire, a separate species to angels? Angles are creatures of no free will created from light, jinns are creatures of freewill created from fire? popcorn
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #206 - May 21, 2014, 12:56 PM
    Tabari was trying to resolve a contradiction in the verse where the command is specifically given to angels to bow down to adam and yet Ibliis was singled out for not obeying. so he does makes a distinction between ibliis and the group he was from and the angels by saying he was of a tribal group from amongst the angel who were made from the fire of simoom whilst the angels were created from light.
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #207 - May 21, 2014, 02:10 PM
    The best I heard was that because Iblis and allah were such good mates, Iblis hung out with angels. Can't recall if I ever read a hadith on that.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #208 - May 21, 2014, 03:46 PM
    Lol Quod forget about hadeets explaining that. i came across this gem on the islam sub of reddit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4uELL2Qze4
    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • The before and after thread.
     Reply #209 - May 21, 2014, 03:51 PM
    omg with the generic blockbuster monster movie soundtrack. This could be the next Lord of the Rings or something! Grin
    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
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