How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley

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Reply #30 - February 10, 2009, 05:28 PM

More from Yvonne's kindly good cooks:

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Later, Shah and her crew arrive at a village where they are told of recent alleged massacres by Taliban as part of ethnic cleansing. Supporting the charges is footage of strewn bodies almost too grisly to witness, including a youth's skull said to have been skinned by his murderers.

http://www.rawa.org/channel4.htm

That woman is beyond contempt. It's an insult to pond life to compare it to her. Pond life is benign - she's an apologist for barbarism.

What the hell is she doing giving speeches anyway? If her friends had their way, she wouldn't even be able to read. Maybe her time would be better spent traveling to the region and helping them to blow up schools that teach girls and murdering their teachers
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #31 - February 10, 2009, 05:32 PM

How can she talk about propaganda of the Western media, when she has worked in it herself?

She must have realised when she wrote articles, that there was no Geobbels at the helm of Western media. Particularly when compared to traditional pro-Islamic media?

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #32 - February 10, 2009, 07:19 PM

Quote from: Jack Torrance on February 10, 2009, 03:20 PM
Coming from the likes of you, it means nothing.

Oh yes, people here almost forgot that I'm a nasty Illuminati member with my racist agenda of destroying Islam. Thank you for unmasking me. And this is coming from the boy who called for my hospitalisation in his infinite tolerance, who questioned my apostasy and directed all kinds of personal attacks against my person, and complained about the "sweeping generalisations" I made against Muslims.

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #33 - February 10, 2009, 11:26 PM

Quote from: brucepig on February 09, 2009, 03:55 AM
She supports the Taliban

You don't really need to say much more than that!

I don't have much respect for anyone who follows such hard-line salafi views as she appears to. They have been so well discredited amongst most sane and intelligent Muslims these days, the only ones still hanging on to that creed are fools imho.
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #34 - February 10, 2009, 11:47 PM

She reminds me of this guy who gave a lecture about Iran for the World Affairs Council which I attended. Talk about going native.

This guy tried to tell us, among other crap, that the Ayatollah only mentioned in passing that anyone insulting Mohammad should be killed which was all blown out of proportion into the Rushdie affair, and that women had things so much better after the Revolution - and as proof told us how women participate in chess championships in Iran and even showed pictures on the big screen of them playing!

I sat there in my seat boiling. I kept picturing the Ayatollah issuing his yearly fatwa against Rushdie and images of women being stoned to death and hung from construction cranes. I was too afraid of speaking in public at the time, but I really wished I could have overcame it and went to one of the many mics available and challenged him on his admiration of and inaccurate statements about the Iranian regime. Instead I made damn sure that I utilized the class discussion page online and made it my duty to inform every fellow student of what really went on in Iran.

It's incredibly smug of people to be self-appointed apologists for monsters they themselves don't have to live under. It's not as if there isn't ample evidence of the brutality and backwardness of these regimes. I thought the debate there was pretty much settled among sane people.
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #35 - February 11, 2009, 12:33 AM

Quote from: Buster on February 10, 2009, 05:28 PM
More from Yvonne's kindly good cooks:

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Later, Shah and her crew arrive at a village where they are told of recent alleged massacres by Taliban as part of ethnic cleansing. Supporting the charges is footage of strewn bodies almost too grisly to witness, including a youth's skull said to have been skinned by his murderers.

http://www.rawa.org/channel4.htm

That woman is beyond contempt. It's an insult to pond life to compare it to her. Pond life is benign - she's an apologist for barbarism.

What the hell is she doing giving speeches anyway? If her friends had their way, she wouldn't even be able to read. Maybe her time would be better spent traveling to the region and helping them to blow up schools that teach girls and murdering their teachers

She gets airtime because wet liberal luvvies think it's great that a Yorkshire lass has seen the beauty of radical Islam and through her time as a journalist can expose how America uses the media to demonise these noble people. The Taliban aren't bad guys. George Bush just wanted us to believe that so he could kill more brown people and get his oil pipeline.

Isn't it obvious?

Yvonne Ridley is a bridge between the those good liberals in the West who oppose the evil American empire and the poor but noble Taliban victims of Americas racism and greed.

Ridley is a true feminist and multiculturalist of which we should all be proud. Thats why she is giving speeches......... so there
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #36 - February 11, 2009, 01:14 AM

Wasn't she sacked from Al-Jazeera for being too extreme? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #37 - February 11, 2009, 08:21 AM

She was sacked but it is unclear why.

She won an unfair dismissal case in the Quatar courts. I think you might be right about why because AJazeera English is actually a quality channel unlike it's Arabic counterpart.

It's hard to tell though because the only British press who have articles up don't really mentioned why she was sacked and the Muslim websites just say Sister Ridley was sacked for telling the truth about the perfection of Islam and the evils of the West.

I get the feeling that she was sacked for wanting equality with her male counterparts and fighting against gender discrimination which is quite ironic for a Taliban supporter. But they are journalists not Afghan women so they deserve equality.

As I said I'm not sure because the Western press seem to tip toe around the reason why probably due to legal reasons and Muslim websites are just screaming about victimisation and Jewish plots.
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #38 - February 11, 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote from: brucepig on February 11, 2009, 08:21 AM

I get the feeling that she was sacked for wanting equality with her male counterparts and fighting against gender discrimination which is quite ironic for a Taliban supporter.

And for pond life, no? I hate cowards, you spout all this crap on here behind someone's back, but if you met her face to face it'd be 'How nice to meet you.' Creep. Why bother in the first place.

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #39 - February 11, 2009, 08:49 AM

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I get the feeling that she was sacked for wanting equality with her male counterparts and fighting against gender discrimination which is quite ironic for a Taliban supporter. But they are journalists not Afghan women so they deserve equality.

I don't think so. If she's the person I'm thinking of she was sacked during a general clear out of extremists, and most of her co-sackees were men.

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Reply #40 - February 11, 2009, 02:33 PM

Quote from: Cheetah on February 11, 2009, 08:49 AM
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I get the feeling that she was sacked for wanting equality with her male counterparts and fighting against gender discrimination which is quite ironic for a Taliban supporter. But they are journalists not Afghan women so they deserve equality.

I don't think so. If she's the person I'm thinking of she was sacked during a general clear out of extremists, and most of her co-sackees were men.

This is what Wikipedia says :

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2003 saw Yvonne Ridley employed by the Qatar-based media organization Al Jazeera, where, as a senior editor, she helped launch the English language version of their website. On 12 November of that year she was fired because Al Jazeera found her "overly-vocal and argumentative style" was incompatible with the station?s programme.[6] After her departure from Qatar, she published an article about her experiences there. She won her case for unfair dismissal against the organisation,[7] but was asked to return in May 2006 when it lodged an appeal against the Qatari court decision. Ridley won the appeal and the judge ordered her original award be doubled. However Al Jazeera once again lodged an appeal with the case going to the Supreme Court for a final hearing. She won that case through lawyers Gebran Majdalany in December 2007 and was awarded undisclosed damages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Ridley

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #41 - February 11, 2009, 11:40 PM

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Al Jazeera found her "overly-vocal and argumentative style"

Thanks, this answers my question about why she became a Muslim

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Reply #42 - February 17, 2009, 04:48 PM

"Ridley has married Two times.[1] Her first husband was Daoud Zaaroura, a former Palestine Liberation Organization officer. Zaaroura was a PLO colonel when Ridley met him in Cyprus, where she was working on an assignment for the Newcastle-based Sunday Sun. They had one daughter called Daisy who was born in 1992.[2]"

I believe the woman has read too many Sheik romance novels.

"Sheik romance like Paranormal romance has risen in the last few years. In an age where chivalrous princes are nearly nonexistent, Sheik romance offers a modern prince to romance readers. He?s a little bit wild, more than a little dangerous, but very much in love with his heroine. Combine this irresistible masculine force with the exotic and (most times fantastical and fictional) lands of Africa, the Middle East, and the East and it?s magic in the making."

http://www.loveromancepassion.com/sheik-romance-and-the-passion-of-arabian-nights/

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #43 - February 19, 2009, 07:59 AM

Quote from: Zaephon on February 10, 2009, 07:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Torrance on February 10, 2009, 03:20 PM
Coming from the likes of you, it means nothing.

Oh yes, people here almost forgot that I'm a nasty Illuminati member with my racist agenda of destroying Islam.

No. no....I meant the likes of you = mucky bottomed fanatasists with a chip on their shoulder who wish they were born in the west. Get over yourself.

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Reply #44 - February 19, 2009, 04:40 PM

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No. no....I meant the likes of you = mucky bottomed fanatasists with a chip on their shoulder who wish they were born in the west.

Lol. I have been to the "West" in the past, and I will move to the "West" permanently in a few years anyway. What's the point? And what exactly is a "fanatasist," your Immigrant Highness? Obviously you cannot speak the language of your host country very well, maybe people make fun of your stupid accent too. Poor kid.

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Reply #45 - February 22, 2009, 10:35 AM

Didn't know too much about her but now that I've researched I have mixed feelings about her. Sort of pity her in a way.
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Reply #46 - February 22, 2009, 12:02 PM

Quote from: Zaephon on February 19, 2009, 04:40 PM
Quote from: Jack Torrance"
No. no....I meant the likes of you = mucky bottomed fanatasists with a chip on their shoulder who wish they were born in the west.

Lol. I have been to the "West" in the past, and I will move to the "West" permanently in a few years anyway. What's the point? And what exactly is a "fanatasist," your Immigrant Highness? Obviously you cannot speak the language of your host country very well, maybe people make fun of your stupid accent too. Poor kid.

Oh, Hey, lads - chill out. The word is fanaticist, meaning someone who is in favour of fanaticism. Unless of course Jack meant fantasist?
Ain't English great: all those inflected prefixes and suffixes, eg, antidisestablishmentarianism

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #47 - February 28, 2009, 06:14 PM

Quote from: Nour on February 10, 2009, 11:15 AM
Have any of you ever read her book 'In the Hands of the Taliban'. It's her description of how she was treated whilst imprisoned by the Taliban. Appearantly they were quite gentlemanly with her but I think that has to do with the fact that a) she's a foreign woman and b) they didn't know how to deal with a mouthy Western women so they took the path of least resistance and decided to tread softly around her.

You mean she cowed them?
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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #48 - March 29, 2009, 08:00 AM

Jack Torrance wrote about Ridley:

"She's indisputably brave - and very far from being 'pond life' as Mr-Piggy suggests."

However we diagnose an Yvonne Ridley in terms of psychology or anthropology or abstract ethics, as far as the appropriate sociopolitical stance to take on her, it is simple: She is our mortal enemy, aiding and abetting not only actual mortal enemies of ours, but also their ideology. She's no different in that respect from Mata Hari (though doubtlessly Ridley is intellectually Mata Hari's inferior).

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Re: How I Came to Love the Veil by Yvonne Ridley
Reply #49 - June 17, 2009, 08:56 PM

She preaches that the Taliban aren't intolerant at all?!

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Reply #50 - June 17, 2009, 11:45 PM

Quote from: J4m3z on June 17, 2009, 08:56 PM
She preaches that the Taliban aren't intolerant at all?!

She has bugs in her software.
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Reply #51 - July 14, 2009, 05:39 PM

I think her conversion was as much a career move than a spiritual change. The woman has made a lot of money selling books, selling articles to the Alternative and Muslim media and travelling around the world giving her anit-western speeches. She has worked for Al Jazeera, Al Arabya and the Islam Channel. She was fired from and sued them all. She is now the voice for Iran working for Press TV until she sues them. She is a fraud and a publicity whore.

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