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 Topic: Muslim First, British Second

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  • Muslim First, British Second
     OP - February 16, 2009, 06:15 PM

    That's the title of tonight's Panorama programme, BBC1 8.30 pm.  Here's a preview - it looks a bit crap, but it might be worth a watch as there's nowt else on anyway.   parrot

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_7892000/7892846.stm

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Muslim First, British Second
     Reply #1 - February 16, 2009, 08:30 PM

    The thread title reminded me of the Muslim News on Line where they invite muslims to explain whether they consider themselves British muslims or muslims in Britain.

    Here are some of the answers :

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    Saying that your a 'British Muslim' is like saying that you are a 'Christian-Muslim' or a 'Capitalist-Muslim' - the source of our values is only the Quran and Sunnah - nothing else. British values include believing in homosexuality as legitimate, that human beings have the right to determine laws regardless of what Allah says, etc. Islam and Kufr (non-Islam) cannot be mixed. We are only Muslims, where we reside is irrelevent to our identity.
    Abu Hafsa, Leicester, United Kingdom

    at the time of the prophet mohammed saw,there were some sahaba who were sent to abyssinia for protection.the muslims refused to bow to Negus the king cause they only bowed to the creator,even though this was the law,tradtion,ethics and customs in abyssinia.the muslims settled in abyssinia not as abyssinian muslims but as muslims in abyssinia.
    the criteria for us is hokum shari and not man made laws.
    israr baig, london, United Kingdom

    Was the Prophet of Islam Makkan or Muslim? it is the same question.

    There is good/bad in saying he was a Makkan for e.g. the Qibla(prayer direction) is in Mecca, BUT the society was based on Idol worship.

    There is good/bad in saying that we are British Muslims for e.g. we have Mosques here, BUT the society is based on utilitarianism.

    If we attribute a title of Makkan/British we are attributing ALL aspects of that society.

    The Prophet(saw) was only Muslim and so are we, period.

    Saeed, United Kingdom

    IF A BAG OF FISH&CHIPS A NIGHT AT THE STAGS HEAD CORANATION STREET & EASTENDERS PROMSCUITY,YOB CULTURE,CHILDREN NOT KNOWING WHO THERE FATHERS ARE, A SOCIETY DRIVEN BY BOOZE.FAGS& ECSTASY THEN I THANK THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS& THE EARTH THAT IM NOT BRITISH BUT MUSLIM.
    muhammed, bolton, United Kingdom

    aslam i am only muslim born in britain not a british muslim and i only go by the sharia not by the so called freedom that democrcy says aslam naveed G
    naveed, glasgow, United Kingdom


    http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/yoursay/index.php?ysc_id=3

    Fortunately they don?t all feel that way, but quite a few do, which is worrying.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Muslim First, British Second
     Reply #2 - February 16, 2009, 09:08 PM

    I think I need to set up a Muslim forum for youths, they all seem to be getting funding in the hundred of thousands of pounds from the government's Prevent scheme. Or write a report for youths to get a better understanding of Islam for ?150,000.

    These programs never really get to the root of the problem though.


    Knowing Islam is the only true religion we do not allow propagation of any other religion. How can we allow building of churches and temples when their religion is wrong? Thus we will not allow such wrong things in our countries. - Zakir Naik
  • Re: Muslim First, British Second
     Reply #3 - February 16, 2009, 09:16 PM

    I know what you mean.

    Whenever I hear things like these all I get is the following Pat Condell line riging in my ears

    "Here, have some more money."


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